Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread John Ackermann. N8UR
Having just been through the endian issue with a similar parser, I'll mention that in Python the struct.unpack() function can handle endian swaps at tne same time as it pulls binary data out of the message.  It makes it pretty painless. On Jul 13, 2019, 11:08 PM, at 11:08 PM, Mark Sims wrote: >

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread MLewis
Super slow from Canada too. Does eventually respond. They might be seeing a little more traffic than they usually get... On 14/07/2019 3:49 AM, Bj??rn wrote: InsideGNSS is responding really slow (only from Sweden?) My phone browsers gave up. My computer Mozilla finally got it. /Bj??rn On 14

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
-Original Message- From: Leif Johansson Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:24 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded That site seems to be down now = See: https

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread Björn
InsideGNSS is responding really slow (only from Sweden?) My phone browsers gave up. My computer Mozilla finally got it. /Björn > On 14 Jul 2019, at 08:24, Leif Johansson wrote: > > That site seems to be down now > > Skickat från min iPhone > >> 14 juli 2019 kl. 00:14 skrev Michael Wouters :

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread Björn
> On 14 Jul 2019, at 00:25, Mark Sims wrote: > > A report that the outage is due to a failure at the Galileo "precise time > facility" in Italy. It has all their cesiums and a maser. Hmmm... no > backup facility... sounds like a recipe for disaster? To my knowledge both Italian and Germa

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-14 Thread Leif Johansson
That site seems to be down now Skickat från min iPhone > 14 juli 2019 kl. 00:14 skrev Michael Wouters : > > The Galileo outage is being attributed to problems at the Precise Timing > Facility in Italy > > https://insidegnss.com/update-galileo-service-degraded-on-all-satellites-precise-timing-fa

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi One alternative, if you only need two lines is to write a parser just for them. There’s not a whole lot to the protocol and the uBlox doc’s are pretty good at describing it. Yes, it’s a binary protocol so there will be a bit of this and that involved. Bob > On Jul 13, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Kev

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Kevin Croissant
Thanks for the info Gary! I will check this out -- I am using the F9P for another project now, so that might be useful. Unrelated to gpsd... I forgot about this until now, but I actually encountered a WNRO bug in the U-Blox M8N (or possibly my library?) when my data collection was running. I only

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Kevin! On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 17:16:37 -0400 Kevin Croissant wrote: > Looking at gpsd, I'm still not sure that it supports UBX, gpsd has supported u-blox since the SiRF2-ublox TIM chip in 2007. gpsd now support all the way up to the ZED series. RGDS GARY --

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Michael Wouters
Hello Kevin There is a Perl script to configure and log the ublox that is available as part of OpenTTP https://github.com/openttp/openttp/tree/master/software/gpscv/ublox Cheers Michael On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 8:03 AM Kevin Croissant wrote: > > This is the library I am using: > https://github.c

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Michael Wouters
We monitor GNSS timing in this way ie with common, single-frequency receivers configured to track a single GNSS system only, measured with respect to UTC(AUS). The plan was to make the data publicly available but that's still on the TODO. Currently we monitor GPS, GLONASS and BeiDou. Over the two

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Hal Murray
> Looking at gpsd, I'm still not sure that it supports UBX, and I think that was > why I disregarded it before. Do you know if it does? The only UBX messages my > project truly needs are NAV-PVT and NAV-DOP, though I look at other ones for > data validation and debugging. I haven't been keeping

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Michael Wouters
The Galileo outage is being attributed to problems at the Precise Timing Facility in Italy https://insidegnss.com/update-galileo-service-degraded-on-all-satellites-precise-timing-facility-problems-cited/ Cheers Michael On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 7:06 am, Mark Sims wrote: > The satellite tracking

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Kevin Croissant
This is the library I am using: https://github.com/jkua/ubx Basically the only applicable files are ublox2.py and ubloxMessage.py. There's some bug in how it handles its byte buffer and the buffer grows out of control, which causes all sorts of issues. I tried to fix it but failed due to time cons

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Hal Murray
ke...@kevincroissant.com said: > The library I used for the U-blox UBX protocol frankly sucks, and was a major > source of issues. What library are you using and/or did you look at gpsd? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mail

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Kevin Croissant writes: >Great! We were hoping that more people would set up similar sites as well, >so I am glad to see interest. >The only outstanding issue with the website is the data collection. The >library I used for the U-blox UBX protocol frankly sucks, and was a ma

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread David Witten
Kevin, I am very interested in your GNSS monitoring website. I would consider building a system similar to yours, perhaps using dual frequency receivers. I am not exactly in 'another part of the world' (though it often seems another planet) in central Missouri at 38.947232, -92.303583. I would li

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Kevin Croissant
Hi Dave, Great! We were hoping that more people would set up similar sites as well, so I am glad to see interest. The only outstanding issue with the website is the data collection. The library I used for the U-blox UBX protocol frankly sucks, and was a major source of issues. As such, messages ar

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Peter Vince
Hi Mark, What prompts Heather to mark visible satellites as yellow, and not use them? Maybe that the calculated results are too far away from your known position? Regards, Peter On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 at 18:20, Mark Sims wrote: > ... Sats that are visible but not being us

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread MLewis
My M8T and Lady Heather, from UTC-4: . When I first checked (July 12, ~10:00?), all Gal sats seen showed with good dBc, but where yellow. . 14:50 all Gal sats seen showed as red, with good dBc. . 22:00 showed ten Gal were N/A and red, three had good dBc: one red, two yellow. . Today July 13, 10

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Bob kb8tq
5 AM tim...@timeok.it wrote: >> >>> >>> Looking at the data it seems that GPS is the best system among the >>> four, correct? >>> >>> Luciano >>> >>> >>> Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
I wonder if a case could be made for multi-GNSS reception in the case of a poorly-located GPS antenna at the reception site. That is, could the benefits of having a lot more sats in the sky outweigh poorer performance of some of the systems with respect to other systems? Dana

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Dana Whitlow
ing at the data it seems that GPS is the best system among the > > four, correct? > > > >Luciano > > > > > >Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com > >A "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > time-nuts@

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-13 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Mark Sims writes: >It seems to more than a little "degradation". My F9T is seeing and tracking >Galileo sats, but is not using the results for navigation... Lady Heather >shows all Galileo sats in yellow. Selecting Galileo only, the receiver >reports it is attempting t

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-12 Thread Kevin Croissant
un...@lists.febo.com >A "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > time-nuts@lists.febo.com >Cc >Data Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:29:10 -0400 >Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded >I built this website as my senior design projec

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-12 Thread tim...@timeok.it
-0400 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded I built this website as my senior design project last year, unfortunately there's no timing data (except for tdop) being logged but you can see the impact. Data is collected with four ublox m8n receivers, one per c

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-12 Thread Kevin Croissant
I built this website as my senior design project last year, unfortunately there's no timing data (except for tdop) being logged but you can see the impact. Data is collected with four ublox m8n receivers, one per constellation. Galileo data from last 1 week: https://gnssperformancemonitor.com/view

Re: [time-nuts] Galileo service currently degraded

2019-07-12 Thread Hal Murray
> Galileo service is currently degraded, see: https://www.gsc-europa.eu/ > notice-advisory-to-galileo-users-nagu-2019025 Thanks. Is anybody monitoring a Galileo-only setup to see how far off the timing drifts? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___