Re: Data Analysis

2005-03-17 Thread Truhon, Stephen
Sorry about the restatement of my problem. I had received a bounceback that my first reply was rejected.   Stephen A. Truhon, Ph.D. Department of Social Sciences Winston-Salem State University Winston-Salem, NC 27110   --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: archive@jab.org To unsu

Re: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread Robert Grossman
"Brown, Barbara" wrote: > That's the students' problem, not yours. I think plagiarism is a very complex problem and takes very high level thinking to understand it. Paraphrasing is even a more difficult problem. For the past 30 years I've worked with students whose average ACT scores are abov

Re: Data Analysis

2005-03-17 Thread Truhon, Stephen
Thanks for the help. I thought of using the Mann-Whitney or the Kruskal-Wallis, but I have a lot of ties (i.e., 500 participants spread over 5 ordinal categories). Any other thoughts?   Stephen A. Truhon, Ph.D. Department of Social Sciences Winston-Salem State University Winston-Salem, NC

Re: the use of the word impact

2005-03-17 Thread Michael Scoles
We once had some experts visit our university to dialogue about learning communities.  Wouldn't it have been easier to just talk? High schools offer classes in keyboarding.  I liked my class in typing. Although not an example of noun/verb confusion, my pet peeve is "utilize."  Many people, especi

RE: "Five words in a row" (Taylor, March 16, 2005)

2005-03-17 Thread lschmier
Anne, what constitutes a "substantive word?" Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmierwww.therandomthoughts.com Department of History www.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html Valdosta State University Valdosta, Georgia 31698

RE: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread lschmier
This is beginning to sound like a medieval Scholastic discussion about angels and heads of pins. I do have one question. Does the word count include "the," "and," "too," etc? Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmierwww.theran

RE: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread Brown, Barbara
I have a friend who chairs the committee (Academic Honesty is a subcommittee of the Committee on Academic Standing, a committee that includes faculty, a dean, and the registrar, I think) and while there are cases throughout the semester, there are concentrations of cases midsemester and at the e

Re: "Five words in a row" (Taylor, March 16, 2005)

2005-03-17 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
ps: Loved the link :-) Anyone who passed on it because they thought they were too busy should go back and check it; it's brief, but does remind one of South Park. at Quoting "Karl L. Wuensch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Martha Capreol considers her students to have plagiarized if they use > an

Re: "Five words in a row" (Taylor, March 16, 2005)

2005-03-17 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
Karl, you make a good point. And I like the clever way you made your point. Believe me we go over the whole issue of quotations at the beginning of the semester as well. But what about these five words--well now I have to admit I was thinking 5 substantive words, not counting the a's and the's

the use of the word impact

2005-03-17 Thread Miguel Roig
Actually, a pet peeve of mine with the word "impact" is with its use in titles of papers to infer causality (The impact of variable x on variable y"). Too often, it turns out that the variable presumed to exert the 'impact' is really a subject variable like as sex or ethnicity, or some other s

RE: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread Goss, Bill
How busy is your committee? We have been talking about doing something like this and are wondering how often the committee would need to meet? How are members selected? Is it an all faculty group or are there student/admin members? Thanks, Bill Goss College of the Rockies Cranbrook, B.C. Ph: 25

"Five words in a row" (Taylor, March 16, 2005)

2005-03-17 Thread Karl L. Wuensch
Martha Capreol considers her students to have plagiarized if they use any five words in a row that are identical to the source document, and Annette Taylor might with four words in a row. Please note that "five words in a row" are five words that I copied verbatim from her post, and I might

RE: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread Brown, Barbara
That's the students' problem, not yours. And you can discuss the general nature of the problematic work with board members before turning it in to see if the work merits their evaluation. -Original Message- From: Annette Taylor, Ph. D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17,

Re: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
Thanks Miguel: they have moved your link and I can't seem to find it; can you help me locate the new link? Thanks Annette Quoting Miguel Roig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am not aware of any authoritative operational definition of correct > paraphrasing and different writing guides tend to sugges

RE: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
My problem is that of 38 students in the class 35 would have to go before the board! :-( Annette Quoting "Brown, Barbara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Does your institution have policies or a committee to help you in this area? > At our college, all suspected cases of dishonesty must be referred to

Re: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread Claudia Stanny
Martha Capreol writes: I wish there was a way of >tracking a student across courses, as I believe the punishment should >increase as it is repeated. I have not has students plagiarize on more than >one assignment in a course, but if they did that would result in an >automatic fail for the cl

RE: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread Brown, Barbara
Does your institution have policies or a committee to help you in this area? At our college, all suspected cases of dishonesty must be referred to a committee of faculty whose job it is to talk with the student(s) involved, decide whether their actions were in fact dishonest, and determine any

Re: how many words equal plagiarism?

2005-03-17 Thread Miguel Roig
I am not aware of any authoritative operational definition of correct paraphrasing and different writing guides tend to suggest subtle differences in what is tolerable as far as how much text ought to be modified to qualify as an acceptable paraphrase.  For example, writing guides in the humanitie