RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-06 Thread Rick Adams
Stephen Black wrote: = Aside from the fact that Marc declared that he was only "devil's advocate" (as if the devil needs the help), == He has one--haven't you heard the name "John Ashcroft?" :-) Rick -- Rick Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] "...and the only measure of your worth a

Re: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-06 Thread Stephen Black
Marc Turner said, in response to a post of mine: > Normally, I'd just stay quiet on all this, but something about today just > makes me want to play devil's advocate or something... > > Black earlier wrote (Sorry Stephen but your earlier comment was the easiest > to get): "I wonder how Bush et

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2005-06-04 Thread Mike Palij
- Original Message - > Subject: Re: Subject: anti-therapy (was Re: tips digest: June 02, 2005 > From: "Allen Esterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:50:42 -0400 > X-Message-Number: 26 > > On 3 June Mike Palij wrote: > > On

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2005-06-03 Thread Allen Esterson
On 3 June Mike Palij wrote: > One can use the above summary chapters [of Pannebaker's] to track down > the specific research studies that supports the point that disclosure > can be therapeutic The earliest report I can find comes from around 1606: Give sorrow words; the grief that does not speak

RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread Annette Taylor, Ph. D.
ROTECTED] > web: http://web.sau.edu/psychology/psychfaculty/cdevolder.htm > > > > From: Beth Benoit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Fri 6/3/2005 11:47 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences > Subject: Re: anti-therapy & social-t

RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread Marc Carter
I got the same message about mine. Don't know what that's about. -Original Message- From: DeVolder Carol L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:40 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political

Re: Anti-Therapy

2005-06-03 Thread Scott Lilienfeld
cut and past the message below to respond to it. Re: anti-therapy Scott Lilienfeld Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:46:03 -0700 Ruth: Very good questions. I'm not aware of much survey data (which I suspect we'd need) to address the question of how widespread this general belief i

Re: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread Jean-Marc Perreault
ROTECTED] Sent: Fri 6/3/2005 11:47 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality Wait, is a "stem cell" the thing that has a NUCULUS? Beth Benoit Granite State College on 6/3/05 12:20 PM, Jean-Marc Perreault at [EMAIL P

RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread Shearon, Tim
certain. :) Tim -Original Message- From: Marc Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:40 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality Excuse me, Carol, but most of us were rather certain. We

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2005-06-03 Thread Scott Lilienfeld
nfortunately, TiPS doesn't allow one to respond directly to the list from the website, so I've had to cut and past the message below to respond to it. Re: anti-therapy Scott Lilienfeld Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:46:03 -0700 Ruth: Very good questions. I'm not aware of much surv

Re: Anti-Therapy

2005-06-03 Thread Mike Palij
email but didn't realized that he had cc'ed me on a post that he made to TiPS). Unfortunately, TiPS doesn't allow one to respond directly to the list from the website, so I've had to cut and past the message below to respond to it. >Re: anti-therapy >Scott Lilienfeld &

RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread DeVolder Carol L
/psychfaculty/cdevolder.htm From: Marc Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 6/3/2005 12:39 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality Excuse me, Carol, but most of us were rather certain. We

RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread Marc Carter
Subject: RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality OK, remember back sometime during the winter I asked Tipsters to answer the question "What is a stem cell?" Although everyone's responses were in the vicinity, some individuals were uncertain. And when I asked a

RE: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread DeVolder Carol L
web: http://web.sau.edu/psychology/psychfaculty/cdevolder.htm From: Beth Benoit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 6/3/2005 11:47 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality Wait, is a "st

Re: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread Paul Brandon
The real problem is whether he thinks that it matters what a stem cell is, as opposed to what Karl Rove tells him is the best position to take politically? Wait, is a "stem cell" the thing that has a NUCULUS? Beth Benoit Granite State College on 6/3/05 12:20 PM, Jean-Marc Perreault at [EMAIL

Re: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread Beth Benoit
Wait, is a "stem cell" the thing that has a NUCULUS? Beth Benoit Granite State College on 6/3/05 12:20 PM, Jean-Marc Perreault at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wonder if Bush really know what a stem cell is? (sorry, but I couldn;t > resist...) > > JM --- You are currently subscribed to tips as

Re: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread Jean-Marc Perreault
I wonder if Bush really know what a stem cell is? (sorry, but I couldn;t resist...) JM G. Marc Turner wrote: Normally, I'd just stay quiet on all this, but something about today just makes me want to play devil's advocate or something... Lavin wrote: "I was always under the impression tha

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2005-06-03 Thread Scott Lilienfeld
nd to two messages at the same time, an example of which is given below: Original Message - > Subject: anti-therapy From: "Beth Benoit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:32:08 -0400 Christina Hoff Summers is at it again: This time putting therapy

Subject: anti-therapy (was Re: tips digest: June 02, 2005

2005-06-03 Thread Mike Palij
Editorial Note: One of the benefits of receiving TiPS in digest form (if one need such convincing) is that on occasion one can respond to two messages at the same time, an example of which is given below: Original Message - > > Subject: anti-therapy > From: "Beth B

Re: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread David Epstein
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, G. Marc Turner went: The real push of many on the right (and middle) is to include abstinence in sex education courses, to teach students about the dangers of STDS, AIDS, etc., and to discourage teen pregnancy. They feel it inappropriate to teach 6th graders how to have bette

Re: anti-therapy

2005-06-03 Thread David Epstein
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Allen Esterson went: An interesting viewpoint. But doesn't it unwarrantedly presume a very close correlation between a person's views on a variety of subjects and one's own? I can recall strongly disagreeing with writers on one topic while valuing their articles/books on othe

Re: anti-therapy & social-therapy / political neutrality

2005-06-03 Thread G. Marc Turner
Normally, I'd just stay quiet on all this, but something about today just makes me want to play devil's advocate or something... Lavin wrote: "I was always under the impression that psychologists were neutral." Black earlier wrote (Sorry Stephen but your earlier comment was the easiest to get)

Re: anti-therapy

2005-06-03 Thread sblack
> On 2 June David Epstein wrote [relating to the new Sommers & Satel book against feel-good therapy (the Axis of Snivel) and a truly sh**ty review of it: > > I suspect that I would agree with the _NY Times Review_. But I'm > > unlikely ever to find out, because I ran out of uses for Sally Satel >

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2005-06-03 Thread Allen Esterson
p://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=57 http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=58 http://www.srmhp.org/0202/review-01.html --- Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Author: David Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: anti-therapy &

Re: anti-therapy

2005-06-02 Thread David Epstein
I suspect that I would agree with the _NY Times Review_. But I'm unlikely ever to find out, because I ran out of uses for Sally Satel the day I read the _Wall Street Journal_ op-ed piece in which she rails against harm reduction: No thanks. --Dav

Re: anti-therapy

2005-06-02 Thread Scott Lilienfeld
Ruth: Very good questions. I'm not aware of much survey data (which I suspect we'd need) to address the question of how widespread this general belief is. I would certainly say, however, that it seems to be quite widespread in much of the "popular psychology" community. Witness, for exampl

RE: anti-therapy

2005-06-02 Thread FRICKLE, RUTH
Scott Lilienfeld wrote: The book is less of a critique about psychotherapy per se (which Sommer and Satel agree can be helpful in many cases), but what they term "therapism," viz., the increasingly widespread notion in popular culture that most people are fragile and vulnerable to breakdown and

Re: anti-therapy

2005-06-02 Thread Stephen Black
On 2 Jun 2005, Beth Benoit wrote: > Christina Hoff Summers is at it again: This time putting therapy > in her sights. Here's the review of her new book, One Nation > Under Therapy: How the Helping Culture is Eroding Self-Reliance, > from the New York Times. > Alas, Beth's alert includes a rat

Re: anti-therapy

2005-06-02 Thread Scott Lilienfeld
In the interests of full disclosure, I should reveal that I'm personal friends with Sally Satel. That issue aside, I'd strongly recommend this highy provocative book, the NY Times review below (which I think misses the point in several respects) notwithstanding. Whether one agrees with most of

anti-therapy

2005-06-02 Thread Beth Benoit
Christina Hoff Summers is at it again:  This time putting therapy in her sights.  Here's the review of her new book, One Nation Under Therapy:  How the Helping Culture is Eroding Self-Reliance, from the New York Times.   Beth Benoit Granite State College   May 1,