Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-21 Thread drnanjo
Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Pollak, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Sent: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 7:42 am Subject: RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much? ?Louis Schmier wrote, "I think some of us are being too harsh.

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-21 Thread Pollak, Edward
Louis Schmier wrote, "I think some of us are being too harsh. We aren't very understanding of our very young students. We're not walking in their shoes or remembering how we were like at those ages." I remember how I was at those ages. I'd been books for pleasure for many years. As for being

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-21 Thread Marc Carter
inal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beth Benoit Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:31 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much? Dave Myers recently recommended a very interesting book about this very sub

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-21 Thread Marc Carter
From: Paul Okami [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "If social pressures are so powerful, and only rare individuals can resist it, then people living in the same social group ought to be virtually 100% identical which they are not. If "we" are the saviors of these poor blighted souls, battered

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread taylor
ty of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original message >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:56:41 -0500 >From: "beth benoit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much? >To: "Teaching in the

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Joan Warmbold
Great list and thanks Beth. However, students do remember the Columbia shuttle disaster which, sadly, had very similar dynamics among the managers and engineers. The exploitation of Enron employees by the inside traders ("Smartest Guys in the Room") is also a fairly recent example of group think.

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread beth benoit
Maybe this is a good time to haul out that yearly posting from Beloit College about "this year's freshman class." I find that I need to update my examples, as these kids don't really recall the Challenger explosion (so much for that example for discussions of groupthink), Jonestown (have to use vi

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Paul Okami
- Original Message - From: "Marc Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much? Oh, my. Apparently I was wrong; some of us *are* b

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Beth Benoit
Dave Myers recently recommended a very interesting book about this very subject, called *Generation Me*, by Jean Twenge. She sums it all up nicely and brings some scientific objectivity to it with studies looking at "why today's young Americans are more confident, assertive, entitled - and more mi

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Steven Specht
I'm seeing a lot of this myself and it has changed the way I see this cohort of students. On Nov 20, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Robert Wildblood wrote: > Placing blame is an interesting sport. Has anyone thought about the > idea that we are dealing with the millennium generation with the > helicopter

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Robert Wildblood
It's funny that Rick mentioned that. Just for fun I asked my class today how many watched "The Daily Show with John Stuart," "The Bill Maher Show," and/or the "Colbert Report. " There was a high correlation between watching those shows and the ones who also have intelligent comments and i

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Robert Wildblood
Placing blame is an interesting sport. Has anyone thought about the idea that we are dealing with the millennium generation with the helicopter parents who have never let their children do anything that they didn't sanction and who have told their children all of their lives that they are

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Rick Froman
Pollak, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:13 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re:[tips] Am I expecting too much? Suicide bomber is a pretty self-obvious term. But don't bet your life that they'd know what an

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Paul Okami
Louis said: I think some of us are being too harsh. We aren't very understanding of our very young students. We're not walking in their shoes or remembering how we were like at those ages. At my students' ages I had my own apartment in the East Village, was about to be marri

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Marc Carter
-- "There is no power for change greater than a community discovering what it cares about." -- Margaret Wheatley -Original Message- From: Paul Okami [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:10 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Paul Okami
that people are responsible for their lives and their development. Paul Okami - Original Message - From: "Marc Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:15 AM Subject: RE: [tips] Am

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Paul Brandon
At 8:04 AM -0600 11/20/07, Louis Schmier wrote: >I think some of us are being too harsh. We aren't very >understanding of our very young students. We're not walking in >their shoes or remembering how we were like at those ages. Or maybe we are. -- The best argument against Intelligent Design

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread taylor
hey have to skim them to find information for assignments. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original message >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:04:34 -0500 >From: "

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Marc Carter
uot; -- Margaret Wheatley -Original Message- From: Louis Schmier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:05 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much? I think some of us are being too harsh. We aren't very u

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
u/departments/psych/helwegm -Original Message- From: Pollak, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:13 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re:[tips] Am I expecting too much? Suicide bomber is a pretty self-obvio

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Louis Schmier
I think some of us are being too harsh. We aren't very understanding of our very young students. We're not walking in their shoes or remembering how we were like at those ages. Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-20 Thread Christopher D. Green
Pollak, Edward wrote: > Suicide bomber is a pretty self-obvious term. But don't bet your life > that they'd know what an IED is, Chris. I just had a student in my > office asking for suggestions/source for a paper on "psychological > warfare" (for a writing class). The conversation drifted to "wate

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-19 Thread roig-reardon
Your colleague's post raises an interesting question for -- Original message -- From: Ken Steele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have a colleague who claimed that you only needed the answer to > one question to predict college success: > > How often do you read for pleas

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-19 Thread Ken Steele
I have a colleague who claimed that you only needed the answer to one question to predict college success: How often do you read for pleasure? Ken Pollak, Edward wrote: A few weeks ago I gave an exam in animal behavior and asked a question about "Kamikaze sperm." One student asked what

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-19 Thread Christopher D. Green
Pollak, Edward wrote: > > > A few weeks ago I gave an exam in animal behavior and asked a question > about "Kamikaze sperm." One student asked what species a Kamikaze was. > I then asked the next 4 students entering my office if they'd ever > heard the word , "kamikaze." The first three had neve

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-19 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
For me at least, computers now make it MUCH more likely that I'll look up a word in the dictionary. Dictionary.com contains definitions of the word (including a sound bite for pronunciation) from multiple dictionaries as well as the word translated to other languages. You can also easily see entrie

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-19 Thread Jim Clark
sor and Chair Department of Psychology The College of Idaho Caldwell, ID 83605 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history and systems -Original Message- From: Jim Matiya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 11/18/2007 6:43

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-19 Thread Louis Schmier
Well, I just discovered--I have amnesia of that week in ICU--that the day after I was admitted to ICU I dictated an e-mail to my son for my classes. All the students in the four classes, 196 students, were first semester students. I told them to run the classes themselves, to finish the projec

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Shearon, Tim
ng in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much? Hi Annette, Do they have fly-fishing on MtV? or My Space? I discovered several years ago, that my urban-suburban students never heard of fly-fishing. I started to include and explanation of it in my lectures...a sig

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread DeVolder Carol L
I don't think you are expecting too much but I'm feeling pretty frustrated right now. I have had to be away from my classes for three weeks due to a family emergency (my daughter had to have heart surgery and needed someone with her in Houston). At first I had someone cover for me, but that only

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Paul Brandon
At 4:37 PM -0600 11/18/07, Michael Sylvester wrote: Maybe. Let us not forget the epistemological approach of Piaget-assimilation and accomodation.If the mountain will not come to us,we must go to the mountain.Btw,everyclimber may require different tools In other words, it's not only the st

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Paul Brandon
Are these students who would have attended college 25 years ago? At 4:11 PM -0600 11/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps times are changing and my students know different vocabulary than mine, but I have had some laughers on the last two tests, except it has me concerned that I may be getti

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread taylor
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much? >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > > Hi Annette, > Do they have fly-fishing on MtV? or My Space? > I discovered several years ago, that my > urban-suburban students n

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Jim Matiya
Hi Annette, Do they have fly-fishing on MtV? or My Space? I discovered several years ago, that my urban-suburban students never heard of fly-fishing. I started to include and explanation of it in my lectures...a sign of the times... Jim Jim Matiya Moraine Valley Community College [EMAIL PROT

RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Shearon, Tim
Robin et al I'm actually feeling pretty good about my students now. :) I'd have to agree with you on most of what you said (I did have to pause for a second on manga). :) On the other hand, what it sounds like is bothering many is the perceived passivity of today's students. I can imagine that

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Michael Sylvester
Count your blessings. In our community more than 50% of the people speak a language other than English at home. On a recent exam I had a question that read in part, "Susan was reaching under a fence for a squash when she hit her head on a post." One of the students didn't know what "squash" mea

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Robin Abrahams
Annette-- I never make assumptions about cultural knowledge. There is simply too much out there to know, and I can't see any reason why a person can say that it's important to know what fly fishing is, but not important to know what, say, the different types of manga are (which many of your stu

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Paul Okami
This reflects an obvious reality that for some reason people are turning summersaults attempting to deny: College students of today are approximately at the base knowledge level of junior high-high school students of just a few decades ago. It's happening as fast as global warming. Paul Oka

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Don Allen
Annette- Count your blessings. In our community more than 50% of the people speak a language other than English at home. On a recent exam I had a question that read in part, "Susan was reaching under a fence for a squash when she hit her head on a post." One of the students didn't know what "s

Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?

2007-11-18 Thread Michael Sylvester
Maybe. Let us not forget the epistemological approach of Piaget-assimilation and accomodation.If the mountain will not come to us,we must go to the mountain.Btw,everyclimber may require different tools.All options should be on the table.The mark of a good teacher is the ability to explain and