RE: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-18 Thread DeVolder Carol L
the sender. -Original Message- From: beth benoit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 4/18/2008 10:48 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals Why not take the duck away? (Especially if it drives you nuts.) Maybe substitute for

RE: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-18 Thread beth benoit
n the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals I'd have to agree, because as a 4-pound chihuahua puppy, she's generally the submissive one. The duck is bigger than she is, but it doesn't resist her "advances." It still drives me nuts.

RE: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-18 Thread DeVolder Carol L
sender. -Original Message- From: Kathy Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 4/18/2008 10:35 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals DeVolder Carol L wrote: >My female puppy keeps mounting a stuffed (plush) duck. I

Re: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-18 Thread Kathy Morgan
DeVolder Carol L wrote: My female puppy keeps mounting a stuffed (plush) duck. I have no idea of the sex of the duck, but it drives me nuts. I don't think it says anything about her sexual 'preference' though. Again, I think if you asked an animal behaviorist about this (well, if you ask

RE: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-17 Thread FRANTZ, SUE
I will point the interested to this source: Bagemihl, B. (1999). Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity. Of course there is no way to know the inner life of any of these animals, but the observations are interesting nonetheless. -- Sue Frantz   Highli

Re: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-17 Thread Msylvester
- Original Message - From: "Raymond Rogoway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals But isn't this behavior common among many

RE: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-17 Thread DeVolder Carol L
My female puppy keeps mounting a stuffed (plush) duck. I have no idea of the sex of the duck, but it drives me nuts. I don't think it says anything about her sexual 'preference' though. Carol L. DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Psychology St. Ambrose University 5

Re: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-17 Thread Msylvester
It has been said if one looks for some behavior to occur,one will eventually find it.This criticism has been applied to some of the studies of British ethologist Jane Goodal (sp).Simply if one goes about looking for certain behavior to occur it will be made to occur. There is also the question of

Re: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-17 Thread Kathy Morgan
Maybe this has already been discussed in this thread and I missed it, but as an animal behaviorist, I can tell you that mounting is a common form of dominance behavior that can have nothing whatsoever to do with sex. Same-sex mounting most likely has very little to do with sexual preference

Re: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-17 Thread Raymond Rogoway
But isn't this behavior common among many, many other species? It seems remote that in all cases it is caused by pheromones being left on the animal from a female. R. Rogoway On Apr 17, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Ken Steele wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proponents of the hereditary basis of homose

Re: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-17 Thread Ken Steele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proponents of the hereditary basis of homosexuality seem to argue that the behavior extends to the animal kingdom. However it is also known(particuliarly in rats) that male animals will mount other male animals that carry female pheronomic variables.This would seem t

Re: [tips] Skeptical about gay animals

2008-04-17 Thread sblack
On 17 Apr 2008 at 15:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Proponents of the hereditary basis of homosexuality seem to argue that > the behavior extends to the animal kingdom. > However it is also known(particuliarly in rats) that male animals will > mount other male animals that carry female > phero