[tips] What's in a name?

2010-04-15 Thread Allen Esterson
Is it possible that, in a few cases at least, one's name influences one's career choice? (This could loosely be said to be a psychological question. :-) ) I'm led to this rather frivolous suggestion by the names of two of the leading judges of England and Wales: Igor Judge is the Lord Chief Jus

[tips] Fw: Can you say chiropractic is...

2010-04-15 Thread michael sylvester
It is my understanding that the dinosaurs(sp) would not have become extinct if there were chiropractors around. But honestly moving to a more serious issue(a trademark of my intellectual flexibility) more whites see chiropractors than blacks.Noted evidence is that anatomical and functional b

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Gerald Peterson
I had always thought the national ave. was around 15% of undergrads go on to psych grad programs...or at least try. We have about 19%. Maybe there are more due to economy? I would like to know if this has changed. Many more do go on to some grad/prof. program but not psych. Gerald L. (Gar

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Ken Steele
Systat provides a free version of its program for student use called Mystat. You can see a list of analyses provided in Mystat and download it at http://www.systat.com. Systat was a competitor to SPSS for many years and then SPSS acquired the company. A lot of the SPSS user interface was t

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Marc Carter
It's true (well, I may have exaggerated a little). We've graduated 18 people in the last two years, and all but three are in (or are accepted to start) grad school. Most are counseling, many clinical, a couple sports psych, and a few experimental (social, cognitive and psychopharmacology). O

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Annette Taylor
90%?? go on to grad school? WOW Even at our private liberal arts college it's only about 20% and we think we are WAY higher than the average, which seems to be about 5-10%. How do you do it? Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences Universit

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Michael Smith
Regarding cheaper alternatives to SPSS, has anyone had much experience or has much knowledge about PSPP? PSPP is free statistical software designed to look and feel like SPSS, and as such, may be more user friendly than "R". --Mike --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
I agree with you that SPSS expensive. However, we are not considering looking for other packages because we feel it is essential to what we do (in our own research, in our classes, and in preparing students for grad school) and because sociology and anthropology also use SPSS (in their classes a

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Mike Palij
To start with, this is what I use in my course: Research Methods: Bordens & Abbott's Research Design and Methods (soon to be in 8th edition). It is it broad in its coverage of methods, design, as well as having a three chapters on statistics (one on descriptive, one on inferential, and one on mul

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Paul Bernhardt
I believe exposing students to some sophisticated statistical package prepares them to encounter it in graduate school. I expect that any student admitted to a thesis-oriented Masters or doctoral program will have the ability to learn some other statistical package, and this exposure helps them

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Marc Carter
We fight to keep SPSS because upwards of 90% of our graduates continue on with a grad program, and even if it's not a PhD program, they are almost always required to do an empirical thesis of some sort, they are all required to take a grad stats class, and SPSS is nearly universal (at least fro

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Paul Bernhardt
Several comments, because I'm very interested in this subject and know it will be easy to burn my 3 posts today. Our department has recently ended its longstanding two-semester Research Methods (integrated stats) I and II sequence which followed the student taking a Math Stats course. We are g

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Dr. Bob Wildblood
I'm just asking, does the teaching of statistics with a package other than SPSS mean that we don't believe our graduate students (or undergraduate students who are good enough to get the kind of positions that will require them to crunch numbers) are not capable of using another package? Believ

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Jim Clark
Hi I haven't used minitab for teaching (or any other purpose) for many years. One of the things I liked about it for teaching was the ease of implementing formula because it allowed you to create constants from your computations and use those in other operations. Some operators and functions

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Annette Taylor
The Cozby text used to be put out by Mayfield Publishing; one of those family owned publishing houses; but they were swallowed up by the big boys. I like the Cozby text because when I first starting teaching RM there were very few "ancillaries" available with any text. This was the first text I

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread John Kulig
Marie Great question, I don't know. I will try to find out . but I KNOW SPSS will be at the top of the list ... John K == John W. Kulig Professor of Psychology Plymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 ===

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
John et al Do any of you know how widely MINITAB is used in graduate school? It seems important to teach students software packages that they will use/encounter/be expected to know in graduate school. I've only ever encountered SAS and SPSS in grad programs. Marie PS. This is what it says (amon

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread John Kulig
Marie et al Not that I want to pitch MINITAB commercially, but I am always amazed at preconceptions. MINITAB has cronbach's alpha & factor analysis under Multivariate stats, multiple R, binary ordinal & logistic regressions under Regression, all anova options, etc. I would find it amazing if t

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread roig-reardon
Hi Bob, I have also raised this question in our case and have often wondered whether  our students would be better served by learning stats using, for example, Excel, a program that they are more likely to come across in the work place.  The use of SPSS in our stats lab (1 credit course to acc

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Deborah S Briihl
Yes - Is the Cozby text Paul C. Cozby's "Methods in Behavioral Research" - McGraw Hill Actually, that's a good question as to what is the best way to teach research methods (and how many sections, etc.). I know that when I was looking up this information for a presentation, I couldn't find a lo

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
We require SPSS to be taught in our psychology stats course for several reasons (in no particular order): -the basic stats class is a prerequisite for the 2 required advanced research methods courses in which they will use SPSS -it is the program that faculty use in their own research and student

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2010-04-15 Thread jmicha5059
Hello All, I use Aron, Aron et al. for the textbook. It is extremely thorough and takes everything step by step. It includes a study guide/workbook that includes PASW/SPSS. However, I noticed that statistics requires some interactive models that demonstrate concepts and animates the calculat

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread John Kulig
I was the rogue in our department who stopped using SPSS, not just for classes but for my own data as well. With students I use MINITAB which more common in statistics texts written by statisticians. It's output is crisper and more succinct, more affordable, and while its interface has the same

Re: [tips] Can you say chiropractic is bunk?

2010-04-15 Thread Allen Esterson
?A follow-up to my previous posting. This is an article published *before* the recent appeal court judgement in favour of the science writer Simon Singh: Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes One in four chiropractors in Britain are under investigation as a r

Re: [tips] Can you say chiropractic is bunk?

2010-04-15 Thread Allen Esterson
?>Can you say chiropractic is bunk? >In Britain, I mean. As a result of a decision recently handed >down, it's again ok to say it is. But you'd better have $300,000 >and at least two years to defend yourself against libel, just in >case. No you won't. Once a precedent is set no one would bring su