Re:[tips] my crummy knowledge of stats

2013-01-16 Thread Mike Wiliams
You can use a conventional paired t test. Although you have dichotomous scores that does not mean they are categorical. Correct/incorrect is a ratio scale of 1 unit. Green/Red, Accountant/Psychologist are the type of categorical dichotomies that bring in the nonparametric procedures like C

Re: [tips] Is bad reporting about psychology research worse than no reporting?

2013-01-16 Thread Jim Clark
Hi That is the same article I originally posted (see bottom of this message) as what I thought was a BAD example of reporting about psychology, evolutionary psychology in this case. Carol then responded with the WEIRDOs article, to which I responding, pointing out with links how people like Bu

Re: [tips] Professor says students can't identify continents on map - Nfld. & Labrador - CBC News

2013-01-16 Thread drnanjo
I liked them also and still do but then and now we are too small a sample from which to generalize Nancy M LBCC -Original Message- From: Christopher Green To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2013 11:15 am Subject: Re: [tips] Professor says students

Re: [tips] Is bad reporting about psychology research worse than no reporting?

2013-01-16 Thread Joan Warmbold
If I missed someone posting this article, I apologize. Whatever, there is an interesting article in the NYT's (Darwin was Wrong about Dating) that discusses the methods as well as the perspectives of the evolutionary psychologists on the differences between the genders in their sexual behavior pat

[tips] Is the normal curve

2013-01-16 Thread michael sylvester
a hypothetical construct or is that how it is in nature? And why do psychometricians dig the normal curve? And why would funding based on graduation rates be unrealistic? michael --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u

re: [tips] Professor says students can't identify continents on map - Nfld. & Labrador - CBC News

2013-01-16 Thread Michael Palij
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:11:37 -0800, Christopher Green wrote: >Time was that I would give history of psychology students a map test of >European countries. On average, they got a little over 4 -- usually UK, France, >Italy, and whatever country their ancestors came from. It got so depressing >that I

RE: [tips] Professor says students can't identify continents on map - Nfld. & Labrador - CBC News

2013-01-16 Thread Marc Carter
Favorite saying from a former colleague in response to my complaints about students and their general lack of interest in, well, pretty much anything I was interested in: "Remember: they're not like us." m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral an

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2013-01-16 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
We are the ones standing in the front of the room… the rest of the folks in our classes are outside the room doing other work with their lives. Our students are wondering what kind of freaks we are, except for one or two students in the class who, one day, will be standing in front of their room

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2013-01-16 Thread Christopher Green
This is true Nancy. But I remember learning maps and flags as a kid because I liked them, not because some govt threatened me with a standardized test (or even because some teacher decided to include them in the curriculum. Whatever happened to the people who just have to know? Chris - Chri

Re: [tips] Is bad reporting about psychology research worse than no reporting?

2013-01-16 Thread Jim Clark
Hi I think the argument in that paper was much over-stated. But even if = somewhat true for psychology in general, I would think it definitely does = not apply to evolutionary psychologists like Buss and Schmitt. Look at = the countries represented in their work as far back as pre 1993. http://

Re: [tips] my crummy knowledge of stats

2013-01-16 Thread Jim Clark
Hi I would consider an alternative approach. For each ITEM, calculate the percentage of students who passed that item. Then do a paired-difference test of significance for pre vs post with items as the random factor (i.e., "subjects"). This will tell you whether there was an overall change.

Re: [tips] my crummy knowledge of stats

2013-01-16 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
The correct statistical test is called McNemar's Test: http://www.medcalc.org/manual/mcnemar_test.php It is specifically for dichotomous outcome data which is paired (repeated or matched). A modified Bonferroni more or less as you describe looks easy enough to do manually, after extracting the p

Re: [tips] my crummy knowledge of stats

2013-01-16 Thread John Kulig
Hi Annette Perhaps McNemar's Test for significance of changes, for dichotomous data. For each item, set up a table that looks like a 2*2 chi square but has "pretest" and "post-test" as variables (in texts its usually labelled "before" and "after") . Posttest - + + A B Pretest - C D So e

Re: [tips] Thanks Canada!

2013-01-16 Thread Christopher Green
I bet he does use rugs. I bet you do too. So there. :-) Chris --- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ = On 2013-01-15, at 6:13 PM, Claudia Stanny wrote: > > > > This i