[tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D.
Hi all, When I was a child, I remember my mother telling me about a friend of hers who developed a shower phobia after watching Hitchcock's Psycho. (By today's standards, the scene is quite tame, but it was terrifying to many people at the time the movie was released.) It seems obvious that

Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Beth Benoit
Jeff, I use that example all the time to describe how common phobias sometimes arise. I never thought to use it as an example of conditioning, but I think I will now. I'm wondering if we could use it as an example of how more than one type of conditioning may take place in the same situation.

Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Gerald Peterson
I never viewed vicarious as necessarily conceptually distinct from operant or classical. Thus, if the mom's facial expression functions as UCS then I called it classical vicarious conditioning. Of course, in a natural setting operant is also involved as the child's resulting expression of fear

Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Joan Warmbold
By vicarious learning I assume you are referring to observation learning occurring by the observing another person, like Mom, becoming fearful of a bees, snakes, etc. Children use their parents as references and that's a powerful role--for better or worse. I recall my son coming in from a fall

Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Mike Palij
I readily admit that I know little about vicarious classical conditioning but would like to raise the following points: (1) Not to berate Jeffry Ricker, but outside of anecdotes has anyone ever shown that watching the shower scene from Psycho in fact produces shower phobias, especially in

Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D.
On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Mike Palij wrote: (1) Not to berate Jeffry Ricker Go ahead and berate. I have a thick skin. My anecdote was meant merely as an illustration of what seems to me to be what intro-psych textbooks call vicarious conditioning, so that I could ask my question about

Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Beth Benoit
Mike, Remember how many people were afraid to go into the ocean after seeing Jaws? I think the shower scene in Psycho had the potential to be a pretty powerful stimulus. Beth Benoit Plymouth State University Plymouth, New Hampshire On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu wrote:

Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D.
On Feb 8, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. wrote: A textbook example of vicarious conditioning I have often seen is the development of an animal phobia (usually a snake or cockroach) in a child after seeing his/her mother express extreme fear upon coming into contact with that

Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Mike Palij
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 16:22:10 -0800, Jeffry Ricker wrote: My question was: would pairing an animal with a terrified mother be an example of classical or vicarious conditioning? My take on this is that a terrified expression on a mother's face would actually be a UCS for the child (the CS would be

Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Joan Warmbold
I needed a guard (sister) at the bathroom door for close to 6 months after seeing Psycho! Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu Mike, Remember how many people were afraid to go into the ocean after seeing Jaws? I think the shower scene in Psycho had the potential to be a pretty powerful stimulus. Beth

[tips] Westminister dog show/Pavlov

2014-02-08 Thread michael sylvester
I recall seeing footage of Pavlov at some type of Dog show(similar to Westminister) in Russia.Maybe he was sampling for classical conditioning picks.Hope Allen's dog got a prize. michael --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.

[tips] Psycholinguistics: Toronto's Mayor

2014-02-08 Thread michael sylvester
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[tips] TRUE or FALSE

2014-02-08 Thread michael sylvester
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Re: [tips] Classical versus Vicarious Conditioning of Phobias

2014-02-08 Thread Jeffry Ricker, PhD
On Feb 8, 2014, at 6:46 PM, Mike Palij wrote: I suppose that Janet Leigh's shock at being stabbed in the shower is a UCS and the shower is CS but doesn't really sound right to me. Yes, I agree that my labeling of these objects as stimuli is not valid if we are designing and conducting an