Hi all,
When I was a child, I remember my mother telling me about a friend of hers who
developed a shower phobia after watching Hitchcock's Psycho. (By today's
standards, the scene is quite tame, but it was terrifying to many people at the
time the movie was released.) It seems obvious that
Jeff,
I use that example all the time to describe how common phobias sometimes
arise. I never thought to use it as an example of conditioning, but I
think I will now. I'm wondering if we could use it as an example of how
more than one type of conditioning may take place in the same situation.
I never viewed vicarious as necessarily conceptually distinct from operant or
classical. Thus, if the mom's facial expression functions as UCS then I called
it classical vicarious conditioning. Of course, in a natural setting operant is
also involved as the child's resulting expression of fear
By vicarious learning I assume you are referring to observation learning
occurring by the observing another person, like Mom, becoming fearful of
a bees, snakes, etc. Children use their parents as references and that's
a powerful role--for better or worse. I recall my son coming in from a
fall
I readily admit that I know little about vicarious classical
conditioning
but would like to raise the following points:
(1) Not to berate Jeffry Ricker, but outside of anecdotes has anyone
ever shown that watching the shower scene from Psycho in fact produces
shower phobias, especially in
On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Mike Palij wrote:
(1) Not to berate Jeffry Ricker
Go ahead and berate. I have a thick skin.
My anecdote was meant merely as an illustration of what seems to me to be what
intro-psych textbooks call vicarious conditioning, so that I could ask my
question about
Mike,
Remember how many people were afraid to go into the ocean after seeing
Jaws? I think the shower scene in Psycho had the potential to be a
pretty powerful stimulus.
Beth Benoit
Plymouth State University
Plymouth, New Hampshire
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu wrote:
On Feb 8, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. wrote:
A textbook example of vicarious conditioning I have often seen is the
development of an animal phobia (usually a snake or cockroach) in a child
after seeing his/her mother express extreme fear upon coming into contact
with that
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 16:22:10 -0800, Jeffry Ricker wrote:
My question was: would pairing an animal with a terrified mother
be an example of classical or vicarious conditioning? My take on
this is that a terrified expression on a mother's face would actually
be a UCS for the child (the CS would be
I needed a guard (sister) at the bathroom door for close to 6 months after
seeing Psycho!
Joan
jwarm...@oakton.edu
Mike,
Remember how many people were afraid to go into the ocean after seeing
Jaws? I think the shower scene in Psycho had the potential to be a
pretty powerful stimulus.
Beth
I recall seeing footage of Pavlov at some type of Dog show(similar to
Westminister) in Russia.Maybe he was sampling for classical conditioning
picks.Hope Allen's dog got a prize.
michael
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On Feb 8, 2014, at 6:46 PM, Mike Palij wrote:
I suppose that Janet Leigh's shock at being stabbed in the shower
is a UCS and the shower is CS but doesn't really sound right to me.
Yes, I agree that my labeling of these objects as stimuli is not valid if we
are designing and conducting an
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