Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Christopher Green
Floyd Allport was Gordon's older brother. Gordon was a student of Herbert Langfeld. Schlosberg was a student of Holt in his later, Princeton incarnation. Chris - Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M6C 1G4 Canada chri...@yorku.ca > On Feb 9, 2016, at

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Mike Palij
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 11:00:51 -0800,Christopher Green wrote: Gibson called actually himself a behaviorist, though obviously not in the Skinnerian mold. He was a student of E. B. Holt -- who was a disciple of William James (though Münsterberg was his dissertation advisor). Holt was also a co-foun

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Michael Scoles
Gibson and Skinner both emphasize the primacy of the environment, although Gibson does so with less of a "black box" approach. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Mike Palij wrote: > On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 08:47:27 -0800, Michael Scoles wrote: > >> My first guess wasn't that good. On pages 246-249 o

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Christopher Green
Gibson called actually himself a behaviorist, though obviously not in the Skinnerian mold. He was a student of E. B. Holt -- who was a disciple of William James (though Münsterberg was his dissertation advisor). Holt was also a co-founder (w/ another James-disciple, R. B. Perry, among others) of

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Ken Steele
On 2/9/2016 12:57 PM, Mike Palij wrote: On a sidenote, ordinarily when I think of Gibson I do not think of Skinner but William Uttal in his book "Psychomythics" lumps them together as radical empiricists. The text is available on books.google.com in preview mode and the following link should/mi

RE: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Stuart McKelvie
Floreat Labore" [cid:image003.jpg@01D1633A.B6CDD210] [cid:image004.jpg@01D1633A.B6CDD210] ___ From: Michael Scoles [mailto:micha...@uca.edu] Sent: February 9, 2016 12:12 PM To: Teaching in t

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Mike Palij
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 08:47:27 -0800, Michael Scoles wrote: My first guess wasn't that good. On pages 246-249 of "The senses considered as perceptual systems," Gibson discusses reversible figure ground and impossible (Escher-type) figures. His explanation is that the same stimulus can provide

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Michael Scoles
ark > > > > *From:* Michael Scoles [mailto:micha...@uca.edu] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 09, 2016 10:46 AM > *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > *Subject:* Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans > > > > > > My first guess wasn't that

RE: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Jim Clark
_ -Original Message- From: Annette Taylor [mailto:tay...@sandiego.edu<mailto:tay...@sandiego.edu>] Sent: February-08-16 3:49 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-09 Thread Michael Scoles
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Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Carol
Nice answer! Carol Phone mail > On Feb 8, 2016, at 10:15 PM, Mike Palij wrote: > >> On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 12:57:00 -0800, Stuart McKelvie wrote: >> Dear Tipsters, >> >> I like D. O. Hebb's distinction between sensation and >> perception as a way of distinguishing bottom-up and >> top-down proces

RE:[tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Mike Palij
On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 12:57:00 -0800, Stuart McKelvie wrote: Dear Tipsters, I like D. O. Hebb's distinction between sensation and perception as a way of distinguishing bottom-up and top-down processing. One thing to keep in mind is that the "bottom-up" versus "top-down" distinction originates in

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Michael Scoles
. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: 819 822 9600 x 2402 >>> Department of Psychology, Fax: 819 822 9661 >>> Bishop's University, >>> 2600 rue College, >>> Sherbrooke, >>> Québec J1M 1Z7, >>> Canada. >>> >>> E-mail: stuart.mckel...@ubishops.ca (or smcke...@ubish

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Michael Scoles
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Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Jim Clark
Hi Because scientists consider all possible explanations/mechanisms to determine which one is correct. Also templates might be involved, for example in exemplar models, or even in early learning before prototypes are developed. Jim Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 8, 2016, at 3:35 PM, "Annette

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Jim Clark
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Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Michael Scoles
> Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: > http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy > > Floreat Labore" > > > > > ___ > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Annette Taylo

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Carol DeVolder
Hi Annette, I would argue that both bottom-up and top-down work together and are both ways of describing things from different perspectives. We assemble the sensations into a whole--for example, in vision we assemble the size, shape, movement (or lack thereof), color, and other components into a co

RE:[tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Stuart McKelvie
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[tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Annette Taylor
I am having a bit of a hard time this year answering questions about bottom up processing. Student question: How can it be truly bottom up if it requires a comparison to a stored image? Isn't that like top-down? You use the stored image to recognize what it is that is coming in. How are these a