RE: Re:[tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-06 Thread Joan Warmbold
. > > ...Scott > ________ > From: Allen Esterson [allenester...@compuserve.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:09 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: Re:[tips] Book Recommendations > > In reply to Jim Clark writi

Re: [tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-06 Thread Joan Warmbold
Yes, this exactly what Coyle describes in his book, The Talent Code, though he refers to it as "deep" practice. What's interesting and so logical is that practice will only be fruitful if the person who is doing the practicing is highly motivated to become better. That's apparently why a chil

Re: [tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-06 Thread Ken Steele
On 1/6/2011 11:00 AM, Claudia Stanny wrote: There is practice and there is deliberate practice (see the work of Ericsson, who is the source for the 10,000 hour estimate). Mere repetition of exisitng moves and skills (Allen's example of copying an existing piece over and over as "practice" in comp

Re: [tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-06 Thread Gerald Peterson
I have also discussed his work in class with regard to clinical intuition and associated problems with professional judgments. Comparing clinical judgments with fire-fighting is fun. Experience can mean twenty years of repeating one year twenty times, or variation, deliberate experimentation a

Re: [tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-06 Thread Claudia Stanny
Allen writes: I suspect it is a mistake to treat all exceptional achievement in the same way, e.g., athletic achievement and musical talent. For instance, the soccer player David Beckham undoubtedly acquired his special talent of extraordinary accuracy in long passes by hard work, i.e., repeated p

RE: Re:[tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-06 Thread Lilienfeld, Scott O
the same or a similar causal model wouldn't hold for many or most other professions. ...Scott From: Allen Esterson [allenester...@compuserve.com] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:09 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re:[

Re:[tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-06 Thread Allen Esterson
In reply to Jim Clark writing that he "would be very surprised if genes did not play some part in the radical sorting process that led some few to stardom", Joan Warmbold wrote: >Daniel Coyle makes a convincing case for otherwise. He noted >over and over again the so-called hot beds had two cruci

Re:[tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-06 Thread Allen Esterson
Jim Clark wrote: > […[ I would be very surprised if genes did not play some part >in the radical sorting process that led some few to stardom and >the rest to whatever miserable fate awaits them once their >dreams of glory are shattered by reality. Joan Warmbold replied: >Daniel Coyle makes a conv

Re: [tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-05 Thread Joan Warmbold
Daniel Coyle makes a convincing case for otherwise. He noted over and over again the so-called hot beds had two crucial elements: a) a person who provided inspiration, or in his words, "ignition,"; and then, b) opportunity for lots of deep practice. What was fairly unique to Brazil was that f

Re: [tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-05 Thread Mike Palij
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:41:44 -0800, Jim Clark wrote in response to Joan Warmbold's recommendation of the "Talent Code" by Daniel Coyle: >Hi >One of the "hot spots" mentioned is Brazil and soccer players. Here's a >passage from a site celebrating Brazilian soccer. > >"The majority of the people li

Re: [tips] Book Recommendations

2011-01-05 Thread Jim Clark
Hi One of the "hot spots" mentioned is Brazil and soccer players. Here's a passage from a site celebrating Brazilian soccer. "The majority of the people living in Brazil are in deep poverty. Soccer is the one ticket out of that lifestyle if the talent is learned early enough. Many of the popu