Re: [Tkinter-discuss] IDLE can't be opened

2015-06-21 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Ned Deily wrote: > ls -l /usr/local/bin/python2.7 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 71 May 23 18:00 /usr/local/bin/python2.7 -> > ../../../Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/python2.7 > > ls -lL /usr/local/bin/python2.7 > -rwxrwxr-x 1 root admi

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] IDLE can't be opened

2015-06-21 Thread Ned Deily
although you should verify that you are really using the new Python 2.7.10 and not the older system Python 2.7), then you could try to focus on what is different between the two user accounts and home directories. But those kinds of questions are *way* beyond the scope of a Python forum.

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] IDLE can't be opened

2015-06-19 Thread Ned Deily
tory to /usr/local/bin? You shouldn't do that. Try the following: cd ~ sudo rm -rf .idlerc cd Desktop /usr/local/bin/idle2.7 and see if that works. You should never have to run idle undo sudo and you never should! -- Ned Deily n...@acm.org -- []

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] IDLE can't be opened

2015-06-17 Thread Ned Deily
[returning the discussion to the list] On Jun 17, 2015, at 09:31, Petr Tvrdik wrote: >> On Jun 16, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Ned Deily wrote: >> In article <01ad415b-c98c-433b-95d9-59731d9d4...@genetics.utah.edu>, >> Petr Tvrdik wrote: >>> I have installed Python

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] IDLE can't be opened

2015-06-16 Thread Ned Deily
efore launching IDLE by typing in the terminal session: rm -r ~/.idlerc Good luck! -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Tkinter grid_info()

2015-02-20 Thread Ned Deily
of Python 2.7.x and 3.4.x are being shipped by various distributors with Tk versions 8.4, 8.5, and/or 8.6. If there's a specific problem with using 8.6, please open an issue at bugs.python.org. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discu

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Different fonts in 3.3?

2014-05-16 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Josef Eschgfaeller wrote: > Ned Deily wrote: > > Ah, sorry, I overlooked the "8.5.15" above. > > That seems to indicate that you've already installed > > ActiveTcl 8.5.15. The fact that you've installed > > ActiveTcl 8.6.x, which

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Different fonts in 3.3?

2014-05-14 Thread Ned Deily
nstalled ActiveTcl 8.5.15. The fact that you've installed ActiveTcl 8.6.x, which changed the Current link in the Tcl and Tk frameworks, has no effect on which version a particular Python dynamically links to at run time. The Current link

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Different fonts in 3.3?

2014-05-14 Thread Ned Deily
Python will automatically use the ActiveTcl 8.5 once it is installed. More details here: https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Different fonts in 3.3?

2014-05-10 Thread Ned Deily
mpatibility version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.15) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 125.2.0) If you are using the python.org 3.3, please be sure to follow the README instructions to install a new version of Tcl/Tk 8.5 (like the ActiveTcl one); the Apple-supplied sy

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Where is tkinter.py

2013-12-21 Thread Ned Deily
ndencies if you don't need them. Try installing the python3-tk package, for example: sudo apt-get install python3-tk -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Waking up the Tk event loop from a thread

2013-11-06 Thread Ned Deily
ate directories and symlinks to the real /Library/Frameworks in the SDK root. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Crash when changing fonts

2013-10-30 Thread Ned Deily
r Mavericks?). AFAIK, the current A/S 8.5.15.0 does not contain the fix. I believe an update is on its way. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Idle bug under MacOSX Maverick

2013-10-28 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Ned Deily wrote: > In article > , > "Michael O'Donnell" wrote: [...] > > Installed OSX 10.9 (Maverick) this morning, > > and then opened Idle (as packaged with > > Python 3.4.0 alpha 4 from the python.org release). > > > > I

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Idle bug under MacOSX Maverick

2013-10-23 Thread Ned Deily
P.S. In article , "Michael O'Donnell" wrote: > not sure this is the right place to send this, but > can't find an email list for Idle. https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev However, this problem potentially affects any Tkinter apps on 10.9 that have m

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Idle bug under MacOSX Maverick

2013-10-23 Thread Ned Deily
n typing a composing character in a text field (for example, on US Extended input methord, opt-u a for a). -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python 3.4.0 alpha 2 available

2013-09-23 Thread Ned Deily
ceback at http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7080). -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python 3.4.0 alpha 2 available

2013-09-16 Thread Ned Deily
ith ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.5.12 and 8.5.12.1 on OS X: http://bugs.python.org/issue15574 http://bugs.python.org/issue15853 Both of those issues were resolved with Tcl/Tk 8.5.13 along with a patch for IDLE. At the moment, I don't recall any other crash issues with either 8.5.13 or 8.5.14.

[Tkinter-discuss] Python 3.4.0 alpha 2 available

2013-09-09 Thread Ned Deily
Python bug tracker. Thanks! http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.4.0/ http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ http://bugs.python.org -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org https://mail.python.org

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Checkbutton indicatoron ignored on Mac

2012-10-25 Thread Ned Deily
ly has been fixed in the top-of-trunk of Cocoa Tk 8.5 (which was formerly a separate branch but has now been merged into the main Tk 8.5 support branch) subsequent to the release of ActiveTk 8.5.12.1. If either of these problems might affect your use, I would recommend staying with ActiveTcl

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] is it possible to use a local tcl/tk with a local python?

2012-06-18 Thread Ned Deily
In article <20120618074633.68b83d12@dino>, Mark Summerfield wrote: > But I can't figure out how to tell Python's configure to use a local > Tcl/Tk. > > Can anyone advise me? http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/711390 -

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python 3.3.0a3 on Macs

2012-05-11 Thread Ned Deily
.4. Second, assuming the license is acceptable, try installing the latest ActiveTcl, 8.5 for the 64-/32-bit variant or 8.4 for the 32-bit-only variant. There are known problems with the Apple-supplied Tcl/Tk 8.5 in 10.7 (and huge problems with the one in 10.6) that a

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python 3.2 and binding Mousewheel on Mac

2012-04-22 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Ned Deily wrote: > In article <4f941cf1.9040...@codebykevin.com>, > Kevin Walzer wrote: [...] BTW, there has been further discussion on this at the open Tk issue in the Tk bug tracker. It's probably better to keep the discussion in one place there. https:

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python 3.2 and binding Mousewheel on Mac

2012-04-22 Thread Ned Deily
e a Tcl script that binds mouse_wheel events to it. http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/TclLib/CrtCommand.htm -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python 3.2 and binding Mousewheel on Mac

2012-04-21 Thread Ned Deily
Toolkit bug 3520202 to report the problem. If someone takes an interest in it there, a fix could appear in a future release of the ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.5 for OS X. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3520202&group_id=12997&a tid=112997 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python 3.2 and binding Mousewheel on Mac

2012-04-21 Thread Ned Deily
the problem you are seeing? http://bugs.python.org/issue10731 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Tkinter-discuss Digest, Vol 89, Issue 5

2011-07-15 Thread Ned Deily
ttk on version 3.x you should do: > import tkinter.ttk There is no need to build Python from source to use ttk on current Mac OS X systems. Just download the python.org 64-/32- bit installers for Python 2.7 or 3.2 and ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.5. More details

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python3.1 mac os

2011-07-15 Thread Ned Deily
en superseded by Python 3.2 (3.2.1 is current). I f you are just starting with Python, you should consider using it: http://www.python.org/download/ http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/878b 8a1d9e6d92ce/6f257a1c60ab5

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python 3 and Tcl/tk on mac os

2011-04-29 Thread Ned Deily
hub.com/homebrew/ http://www.finkproject.org/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Python 3.1 and Tcl/Tk

2011-04-29 Thread Ned Deily
ere are various issues with Tk on Mac OS X. There are more details at this web page: http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Help

2011-02-19 Thread Ned Deily
5 with it as the Apple-supplied Tcl/Tk 8.5 in OS X 10.6 is known to have serious problems.  Python 3.2 should be preferred to 3.1, in any case, as there are many bug fixes in it. If you don't want to use 3.2 and don't mind using an X11-based Tk, another option is to instal

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Help

2011-02-17 Thread Ned Deily
-supplied version in /System/Library/Frameworks. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Help

2011-02-17 Thread Ned Deily
patibility version 1.0.0, current version 47.1.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 88.3.10) You should see /Library/Frameworks/Tcl... rather than /System/Library/... -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] Help

2011-02-17 Thread Ned Deily
currently supplied by Apple with OS X 10.6; to successfully use tkinter (and IDLE) with this version you must also install the most recent ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.5.9 version for OS X. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] how make active python 3 use active tcl on mac os?

2010-11-29 Thread Ned Deily
rg installers will use an ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.4 (from /Library/Frameworks) if available at run time, otherwise they will use the Apple-installed Tcl/Tk 8.4 in /System/Library/Frameworks. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-di

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] how make active python 3 use active tcl on mac os?

2010-11-27 Thread Ned Deily
In article , David Cortesi wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > > In article <4cf0667a.1040...@activestate.com>, > >> Are you sure `python3-32` (and `python3-64`) are included in Python > >> 3.1.2, or is this something new in 3.1.3 (svn

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] how make active python 3 use active tcl on mac os?

2010-11-26 Thread Ned Deily
> import sys >>> sys.maxsize 9223372036854775807 >>> ^D $ arch -i386 python3.1 -c 'import sys;print(sys.maxsize)' 9223372036854775807 $ arch -x86_64 python3.1 -c 'import sys;print(sys.maxsize)' 9223372036854775807 (Also, I don't have a 10.5 Intel s

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] how make active python 3 use active tcl on mac os?

2010-11-24 Thread Ned Deily
2-bit and 64-bit modes. Check the framework bin directory (/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.1/bin) for something like a python3-32 executable and, if found, try using that. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] how make active python 3 use active tcl on mac os?

2010-11-23 Thread Ned Deily
\ print(_tkinter.__file__)') otool -L $(arch -x86_64 python3 -c 'import _tkinter;\ print(_tkinter.__file__)') -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org ___ Tkinter-discuss mailing list Tkinter-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

Re: [Tkinter-discuss] tkinter X11 vs Aqua on a Mac

2010-10-14 Thread Ned Deily
any advice let me know. Use MacPorts. On both10.5 and 10.6, I've installed the current MacPorts python2.6 and python3.2 which links with the MacPorts Tk 8.5. That pulls in the MacPorts X11 client libraries but it works just fine with the Apple-supplied X11.app, i.e. no need to bu