RE: Just another Benchmark

2001-03-02 Thread Roy Wilson
Hi, See below. Roy > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Bezdicek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 02 March 2001 09:50 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Just another Benchmark > Hi, > we tried the apachebench on our solaris system, to check out > differences between architecture

Let's talk about thread safety ... :-)

2001-01-26 Thread Roy Wilson
lem, this is a part of 20 man/years commercial project. --- Roy Roy Wilson (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Business) JLWIP_Services (Affiliate) HotDispatch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Re: Licensing / Source Question

2000-12-29 Thread Roy Wilson
I forgot to mention in my earlier post that in his concurrency book Doug Lea also endorse the use of the JCSP library (although the licensing issues with may indeed be murky). Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g

MUD: when to refactor or reconstruct?

2000-12-23 Thread Roy Wilson
ugly/dysfunctional/etc for another. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 12/22/00, 3:42:13 PM, "Stein M. Eliassen&qu

Refactoring: oo-spaghetti-o's?

2000-12-22 Thread Roy Wilson
annot invoke a server method unless the server accepts the request. Info about the library is at http://www.cs.ukc.ac.uk/projects/ofa/jcsp/ Happy Holidays Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original M

How do you spell relief?

2000-12-21 Thread Roy Wilson
Title: How do you spell relief? Jon, Thanks (and thank God) for comic relief (which is nevertheless not off-topic). Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<&l

Archive: 2 more things

2000-12-19 Thread Roy Wilson
n then find out whether I can do what I want. But, whatever's easiest for you (assuming you hear no complaints from the community). Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<

Explaining a Yogi-ism

2000-12-19 Thread Roy Wilson
putting things. The phrase, "it's deja vu all over again" basically says the same thing twice. No criticism of any sort was intended, nor was the attempt at humor directed at anyone. I usually keep in mind that the world is not the U.S., but slipped up this time. Adios, Roy -- Ro

Yogi (Berra, not Bear): "It's deja vu all over again". :-)

2000-12-18 Thread Roy Wilson
to the list and see if anyone has any heartburn. Does anyone? If I don't hear anything for a week, I'll assume it's a non-issue. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<&

Code review and opens ource development

2000-12-08 Thread Roy Wilson
#x27;s an excelent catch, and a stupid mistake ( mea culpa ). > ( and yet another proof for the importance of code review.) I know what code review means in a more-or-less standard setting, but what does/should it mean for open source development? Is or isn't it happening with TC? > Costin Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kudos to Jason and his benchmarking report

2000-12-07 Thread Roy Wilson
s vary by machine configuration and software configuration, not request type. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TC4 benchmarking

2000-12-07 Thread Roy Wilson
tuff (along with Costin's) might be a key part of a > great guide to TCx performance and tuning ala Dean Gaudet's stuff on > (Apache?) performance. That sounds like a much needed guide. Maybe a HOWTO? >> Jason Brittain Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kudos to Jason and his benchmarking report

2000-12-05 Thread Roy Wilson
he next round of measurement (and, in my case, modeling). Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 12/5/00, 1:47:46 PM, J

What kind of info you can get from ApacheBench

2000-12-05 Thread Roy Wilson
>> Original Message << On 12/5/00, 1:42:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: Benchmarks / Performance Tuning: > It is very important to use "ab -c 20 " ( or more ) to get real > information about how the server works under load - "ab -c 1 " is of no >

Re: *.apache.org traffic, configuration, etc

2000-11-14 Thread Roy Wilson
Thanks, Jon Roy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 11/14/00, 4:21:49 PM, Jon Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: *.apache.org traffic, configur

Clarification

2000-11-13 Thread Roy Wilson
11/13/00, 6:31:13 PM, Nick Bauman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: Thanks for the make links and a rant: > On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Roy Wilson wrote: > > Nick, > > > > I agree that your example is simple. Even I can understand and create > > such "toy"

Re: Thanks for the make links and a rant

2000-11-13 Thread Roy Wilson
e package version > VERSION=3_2 > # where the maketools be > MAKE_CONF=./maketools > include $(MAKE_CONF)/config.mk > include $(MAKE_CONF)/rules.mk > -8<------ > Can it be any simpler? > Now I know that there is a lot of magic in the MAKE_CONF, but then you > don'

Thanks for the make links and a rant

2000-11-13 Thread Roy Wilson
Nick, I have a copy of the FSF make manual: As our president used to say "I recur to my former statement [about make documentation]." :-) I'll have to check out the O'Reilly reference. See my rant below. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>

Make rant

2000-11-13 Thread Roy Wilson
ical papers, I'd like to think the problem is more than brain-death on my part. :-) Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*.apache.org traffic, configuration, etc

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
Jon Stevens, You mentioned that you thought *.apache.org gets 2M hits per day. Is there a (good?) source of info re: hardware/software/traffic information? Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e

Whoops! Ignore previous message: Read this instead!

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 11/11/00, 5:26:54 PM, Roy Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Assessing the performance impact of the propos

Assessing the performance impact of the proposed webpage

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
. I enjoyed this. I hope you did too. It might even be useful in the future. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 11/11/00

Here we go again :-)

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
nd > watchdog. ( few enhancements are needed ). Then you can do your > "scripts" in xml. I'll take a look at Gtest. I just started fiddling with ANT today. Like an idiot I took a full-blown build.xml used to generate a production system and wondered why I couldn't inst

What does ab measure, etc.

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
0 128 128+316 324010.25 > > > > So, what is a "good" max/avg ratio? And, for what machine? I'd be > > surprised if someone saw these ratios on a Pentium 650Mhz. > > > > BTW, it is possible to calculate (after making

The Ping servlet: ONe more time

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
public class UpperBound extends HttpServlet { static final String msg = "\n" + "UpperBound\n" + "\n" + "UpperBound\n" + "\n"; static final byte[] bytes = msg.getBytes(); public void service(ServletRequest req

RE: The Ping servlet

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
Hi, I couldn't locate the Ping Servlet, but did get one very close to it called the UpperBound Servlet, which is attached. I haven't tried it. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Title: UpperBound public class UpperBound extends HttpServlet { static final

Philosophical differences?

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
for each request, z ms for an internal dispatch, etc. > ( of course, on average ) >From a developer perspective, I agree with the above. I don't see the user and developer perspectives as entirely incompatible. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Maximum processing times

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
han some value (like 10 - Z seconds, where Z represents some level of network delay). Roy Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OPINION] - New Jakarta Website

2000-11-11 Thread Roy Wilson
Hi, In addition to some of the other concerns voiced, there is the somewhat more personal matter of color. I like yellow, but the page is TOO yellow/butter/whatever for me. OTOH, the images are fairly crisp. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>

TC overhead, etc.

2000-11-09 Thread Roy Wilson
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Scalability and revolution?

2000-11-09 Thread Roy Wilson
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Test hardware != User hardware =>applicability problems?

2000-11-09 Thread Roy Wilson
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The Ping servlet

2000-11-09 Thread Roy Wilson
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Thruput, response, and perf servlets

2000-11-08 Thread Roy Wilson
ch type of request, what the server response time is likely to be, and what the CPU and disk utilizations are like (since they might want to put TC on a system with some room for growth). So, I propose a workload model based on servlets we already have (or could develop for). Starements about TC pe

On what HelloWorldExample performance predicts

2000-11-08 Thread Roy Wilson
ts an upper bound on the avg thruput, and a lower bound bound on the average response time, of any more resource-intensive request on the machine where the resource measurements were taken. Bell Labs uses this kind of bounding approach to performance assessment, especially in the design phase. Ro

Logging TC4.0 and measurement

2000-11-08 Thread Roy Wilson
mance people get out of the box. If AccessLogValve is and continues to be a hog, then maybe it shouldn't be a default? BTW, what did you use to do the profiling? What did you see? I'm planning to use OptimizeIt4.0 when I can get it and get it to attach. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [

Measuring TC3.x with ab

2000-11-08 Thread Roy Wilson
Ignacio/Nacho, I am under the weather and, even if I wasn't, I'm too pressed for time :(. The shell scripts are pretty simple, though, so I imagine other volunteers could do the run(s). As I recall, Costin did something similar in his recent ApacheCon Europe presentation. Roy Ro

Msg formatting problem: trying again

2000-11-08 Thread Roy Wilson
filename="text1.rtf" # Draft script by Roy Wilson used on Redhat6.1 system (bash) # Assume ONLY HelloWorld servlet being used: better to have a set, but what? # # To promote comparability, run script immediately after a cold boot echo Run script only after a cold boot to make results

TC4-m4 REquestInfoExample data, questions, modified scripts

2000-11-08 Thread Roy Wilson
ION 3: Since the scripts can be modified to run any servlet, how about a "realistic" one as Costin suggested in his ApacheCon presentation (unless the examples are "representative"). (Hack) Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Draft script by Roy Wilson used on R

Testimonials

2000-11-07 Thread Roy Wilson
I wonder if such testimonials would be worth collecting (or at least links to the relevant web pages) on a special page so that CTOs, VCs, etc., can find them? Roy Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dear Friends, > > We have successfully managed to host a website www.gtsuae

Re: TC4-m4 CPU per request increase and thread queue locking?

2000-11-06 Thread Roy Wilson
ess" ought to include graceful degradation when configuration settings are less than optimal for the OS, VM, etc. being used. I realize this is a rather simplistic conception,but ... Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

TC4-m4 CPU per request increase and thread queue locking?

2000-11-05 Thread Roy Wilson
eople will see similar logfile entries with different N and C values. I'll send an updated, more flexible, version of the bash scripts today or tomorrow as I'm feelin' poorly. :-) Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Tomcat 4.0 Milestone 4 Kudos

2000-11-04 Thread Roy Wilson
testing begins ... Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Doh!

2000-11-04 Thread Roy Wilson
mind over time.] Those who want to capitalize on OSS as users, might find paragraph 3 especially important, since it indicates the significance of the names for use as well as for development activity. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Let's try to explain this a little bit:

TC4.0 Linux/Unix measurement scripts

2000-11-02 Thread Roy Wilson
h the summary file in ascii format to a post that describes your system configuration (CPU, disk, memory, OS, etc.) I will process that files post the results every TBD days. Sorry about the length. If I knew how to make it shorter, I would. :-) Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>

Performance measurement scripting

2000-11-02 Thread Roy Wilson
Craig, I have a bash shell script that (currently) drives Apache, sar, and sa on a RedHat6.1 system. I will doctor it a bit and post it tonight to see if there are suggestions about what to include, modify, leave out, so that it will span most Unix/Linux systems. Roy -- Roy Wilson E-mail

Re: Tomcat 4.0 Milestone 4 performance measurement

2000-11-02 Thread Roy Wilson
, not just the HelloWorld servlet (again in keeping with Costin's pitch at ApacheCon). Roy Wilson -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can market-first/measure-later sustain TC growth?

2000-11-01 Thread Roy Wilson
ak can't be broadcast until there is technical data to support it in some fashion. Otherwise, perhaps, some CEO/CTO/etc., asks a question that ultimately gets answered by a technically savvy person such as yourself who (in the absence of technical performance docs) might then be forced to

Re: Tomcat 4.0 FAB

2000-11-01 Thread Roy Wilson
on Europe?) and see numbers. In particular, how was the load generated? ApacheBench? Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tomcat 4.0 Milestone 4 and performance issues

2000-10-31 Thread Roy Wilson
re's any interest, I can post a link to a PowerPoint presentation that summarizes what I've done so far (and let the barbecue begin :-)). -- Roy Wilson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<&