RE: 'Just say no to JSP' Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-08 Thread Carlos Gaston Alvarez
> With my team, I try to stress that JSPs can (and > actually should) be used to implement both View and > Control aspects of MVC and to address this we have > adopted (hopefully) strong standards for how we do JSP > development. There is more to it, but basically we > conceptually separate JSPs

RE: "Just say no to JSP" Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-06 Thread Paulo Gaspar
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 02:00 > > ... > > My only complaints would be not > enough debug tools around to be able to single step through new code > when you are having problems, > > ... JBuilder 4 works j

RE: 'Just say no to JSP' Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-06 Thread Paulo Gaspar
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 20:57 > > ... > > Nothing wrong - yet another fine language, and a very nice > implementation. > And nothing good either - or I coulnd't find anything revolutionary > compared with

Re: 'Just say no to JSP' Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-05 Thread Matthew Dornquast
I could be wrong given I don't know the full context, but the code from the article on this page: http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd-generation.html isn't thead safe, multiple requests coming in on different threads at the same time would cause init() to be called multiple times. -Matt

Re: 'Just say no to JSP' Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-05 Thread Mel Martinez
--- Jon Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mel, > > Please do not CC me directly as I'm already on the > list. Sorry - artifact of how I started the reply (from browsing the essay). Oops. > I have filed your > changes away for when I do my next revision of the > site (there are several > o

Re: 'Just say no to JSP' Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-05 Thread cmanolache
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Mel Martinez wrote: > The above paragraph describes a 'fundamental issue' > that has absolutely nothing to do with the Java Server > Pages specification and, rather, entirely to do with a > particular implementation of the specification. As And most of the other arguments ar

Re: 'Just say no to JSP' Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-05 Thread Mel Martinez
--- Nick Bauman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Read Jon's article about the problems of JSP. > > http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html > > I read it and it made me rethink a lot of > assumptions I had made about JSP. > Without getting into the larger debate - actually agree with man

Re: 'Just say no to JSP' Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-05 Thread Mel Martinez
--- Nick Bauman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Read Jon's article about the problems of JSP. > > http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html > > I read it and it made me rethink a lot of > assumptions I had made about JSP. > Without getting into the larger debate - actually agree with man

Re: "Just say no to JSP" Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-05 Thread Mark T. Harris
> I do have all the latest jar files from SUNW, and jakarta-apache. So I > don't know what the problems could be. My only complaints would be not > enough debug tools around to be able to single step through new code > when you are having problems, but I consider that minor at this point, > given

Re: 'Just say no to JSP' Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-04 Thread Nick Bauman
Read Jon's article about the problems of JSP. http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html I read it and it made me rethink a lot of assumptions I had made about JSP. > An alternative view! > > On 4 Apr, Brad Cox wrote: >> At 11:24 AM -0700 04/04/2001, Jon Stevens wrote: >>>I love the ar

Re: "Just say no to JSP" Re: [Fwd: Tomcat may reveal script source code by URL trickery]

2001-04-04 Thread Earl . Stutes
An alternative view! On 4 Apr, Brad Cox wrote: > At 11:24 AM -0700 04/04/2001, Jon Stevens wrote: >>I love the article title: >>"Just say no to JSP" I am really sorry to see folks coming on this list, and also publishing to the general web articles deriding JSP and tomcat in particular. I have a