Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-07 Thread Mike Greenway
My 160 vertical is right up against the house so I have used “under the house” radials for years. The basement is not finished out so I just tacked them to the floor joist with a staple gun and brought them back to a central point at a window just adjacent to the tower and drilled a hole

Re: Topband: Topband Radial Question

2014-01-07 Thread Paul Staupe
Charlie, The article is: Using elevated radials in conjunction with deteriorated buried-radialground systems Christman, A. ; Zeineddin, R.P. ; Radcliff, R. ; Breakall, J. Broadcasting, IEEE Transactions on Volume: 39 , Issue: 2 Publication Year: 1993 , Page(s): 249 - 254 Al Christman K3LC has

Re: Topband: Topband Radial Question

2014-01-07 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Thanks so much for that information, Paul!! Have a good evening! 73, Charlie,K4OTV From: Paul Staupe [mailto:sta...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:09 PM To: topband; charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com Subject: RE: Topband Radial Question Charlie, The article is: Using

Re: Topband: Topband Radial Question

2014-01-07 Thread Lee K7TJR
One other consideration on radials above or below ground may be their effect on your receiving antennas. Lee K7TJR _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: Topband Radial Question

2014-01-07 Thread Charlie Cunningham
True! But some topband ops seem to just like to dig in the dirt to bury radials! -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Lee K7TJR Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:27 PM To: 'topband' Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Radial Question One other

Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Chortek, Robert L
Hello Fellow Topbanders - We are about to embark on a front yard landscaping project at our home on a tiny 12, 500 sq. ft. lot. It occurred to me this would be an excellent opportunity to put down a large number of buried ground radials BUT, they would only cover about 90 degrees of the

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/6/2014 11:51 AM, Chortek, Robert L wrote: We are about to embark on a front yard landscaping project at our home on a tiny 12, 500 sq. ft. lot. Two things to study. N6LF has studied radial systems extensively, and written about his work in at least 8 or 10 applications notes on his

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread bruce whitney
@contesting.com Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 2:51 PM Subject: Topband: Radial Question Hello Fellow Topbanders - We are about to embark on a front yard landscaping project at our home on a tiny 12, 500 sq. ft. lot. It occurred to me this would be an excellent opportunity to put down a large

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Charlie Cunningham
73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Chortek, Robert L Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:52 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Radial Question Hello Fellow Topbanders - We are about to embark on a front yard

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
I’d run a test wire under the house and connect it to the rig. Listen for noise. Then connect to house ground and see if noisy. Compare that with each existing elevated radial for QRN. Here in Fairbanks anything through the home or grounded to the house or tower on 160 is worse than my

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Bill Stewart
Chortek robert.chor...@berliner.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 2:51:50 PM Subject: Topband: Radial Question Hello Fellow Topbanders - We are about to embark on a front yard landscaping project at our home on a tiny 12, 500 sq. ft. lot. It occurred to me this would

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Of Gary and Kathleen Pearse Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:14 PM To: topband List Subject: Re: Topband: Radial Question I'd run a test wire under the house and connect it to the rig. Listen for noise. Then connect to house ground and see if noisy. Compare that with each existing elevated radial

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Charlie Cunningham
helped a LOT on receive! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Stewart Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:25 PM To: Robert L Chortek Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Radial Question Hi Bob, I can't add

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Charlie Cunningham
@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Radial Question Hi Bob, I can't add much in the way of technical reasons for adding the radials vs a c-poise. However, I can say that my Inv. L, with a four wire quarter wave c-poise has worked quite well...and with much less work than all the radials you

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Bill Stewart
...@berliner.com Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 6:02:12 PM Subject: RE: Topband: Radial Question BTW, Biil, where U in NC? I'm in Raleigh waitin' for it to go down to 9 degrees tonight! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Bill Stewart
Cunningham charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com To: Bill Stewart cw...@embarqmail.com, Robert L Chortek robert.chor...@berliner.com Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 5:52:50 PM Subject: RE: Topband: Radial Question Hi, Bill Well, I have modeled a 160 inverted L with 4 elevated

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread Charlie Cunningham
:00 PM To: Charlie Cunningham Cc: topband@contesting.com; Robert L Chortek Subject: Re: Topband: Radial Question Charlie, I was surprised at how well my Inv L/c-poise works. It is far from an ideal situation...amongst many tall pines, but results have been very much worth the effort. I got some good

Re: Topband: Radial Question

2014-01-06 Thread David Aslin
I could not resist a comment - 12,500 sq. ft is tiny ??! Spare a thought for the topband community in G-land: the *average* garden (i.e the lot size less the house area) is 970 sq. ft. Many new homes have no garden. While I search for a contest/DX location, we are renting a beautiful new home -

Re: Topband: Radial question

2012-02-11 Thread Chortek, Robert L
I currently use the spray on my patio, lawn and driveway as a ground system. It works so well I took down my elevated radial system which made my XYL very happy. Now I have a much more efficient antenna AND a much happier wife. I have worked more DX on 160 this season than in all prior years

Re: Topband: Radial question

2012-02-11 Thread W2PM
Amazing. Nano antennas aren't new but this guy presents them in an odd way, as if they form a mystical improvement to normal antennas. His starting comments are telling regarding the implied lossy nature of conventional cell phone antennas as he cites the heat as proof as the lossiness. The