[topbraid-users] decimal?

2018-09-06 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Any reason why there is no D in the icon: [cid:image001.png@01D445C6.D301AAD0] For xsd:decimal ? (acc. to: meta:hectometerPostValue rdf:type owl:DatatypeProperty ; rdfs:domain meta:RoadNetworkLocation ; rdfs:label "hectometerPaalValue"@en ; rdfs:label "hectometerPostWaarde"@nl ; rdfs:r

[topbraid-users] upgrading workspace to 6.01

2018-09-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
When upgrading to 6.01 I have a problem moving my existing projects. I follow: https://www.topquadrant.com/knowledge-assets/faq/tbc/ how do I upgrade ...etc. I can make the zip from 5.5 But how to import? ? I cannot select a folder next to TopBraid (I do not want to put my ontologies in an

RE: [topbraid-users] upgrading workspace to 6.01

2018-09-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Workspace' option, rather than the 'Import > General > Archive File' option. Hope it helps, Pat On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:36 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: When upgrading

RE: [topbraid-users] upgrading workspace to 6.01

2018-09-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
pgrading workspace to 6.01 If you “Export” and then "ArchiveFile" each user project separately (not any that come with Composer or EDG), then after creating a new workspace simply “Import" from “File" menu and select “ArchiveFile”. Cheers, David On 17 Sep 2018, at 16:36, &#x

RE: [topbraid-users] upgrading workspace to 6.01

2018-09-18 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
“File" menu and select “ArchiveFile”. Cheers, David On 17 Sep 2018, at 16:36, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: When upgrading to 6.01 I have a problem moving my existing projects. I follow: https://www.topquadrant.

[topbraid-users] ws upgrade issue

2018-09-27 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
When upgrading workspace (for 6.01) I now have: [cid:image004.jpg@01D45675.626AB630] Where all my original projects are in the zip folder. In tbc the project explorer shows them ok though (ignore zipexpanded folder in between I guess). Is this all fine now or can I somehow delte the intermed

[topbraid-users] shacl generation

2018-10-31 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
When generating shacl I get: ex2:Head sh:property [ rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ; sh:path dct:hasPart ; ] ; sh:property [ rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ; sh:path dct:hasPart ; ] ; sh:property [ rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ; sh:path dct:hasPart ; sh:

[topbraid-users] sh:nodeKind questions

2018-10-31 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
You once explained but I cant refind. What are the rules for sh:nodeKind? If not specified what is the default? Do you always pref. specify it for each relevant shape? (when the range is known it could be derived?) It's not standard in the template in tbc when you want to specify? I specify in o

[topbraid-users] oneOf in shacl

2018-10-31 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
ex2:Category rdf:type owl:Class ; rdf:type sh:NodeShape ; rdfs:subClassOf owl:Thing ; owl:oneOf ( ex2:Pub ex2:Adult ex2:Senior ) ; . What would the shacl look like for the yellow part? sh:in (ex2:Pub ex2:Adult ex2:Senior) ; Somehowbut it is not in a property s

RE: [topbraid-users] sh:nodeKind questions

2018-10-31 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Sent: woensdag 31 oktober 2018 17:12 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] sh:nodeKind questions On 31 Oct 2018, at 15:23, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: You once explained but I c

RE: [topbraid-users] sh:nodeKind questions

2018-10-31 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
can’t say whether the value is a string or an integer, you could use sh:nodeKind to say that it is a literal. On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:23 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: You once explained but I cant refind. What a

RE: [topbraid-users] shacl generation

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
. But right, if you don't think you want this info, there is no harm in deleting it. Holger On 1/11/2018 12:20 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: When generating shacl I get: ex2:Head sh:property [ rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ; sh:path

RE: [topbraid-users] oneOf in shacl

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
des (here: the instances of ex2:Category) must be one of the enumerated values. Holger On 1/11/2018 2:29 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: ex2:Category rdf:type owl:Class ; rdf:type sh:NodeShape ; rdfs:subClassOf owl:Thing ; owl:oneOf ( ex2

[topbraid-users] class generated for datatype?

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Price is defined as: ex2:price rdf:type owl:DatatypeProperty ; rdfs:domain ex2:Dog ; rdfs:range cdt:ucum ; . Generated by convertor: sh:property [ rdf:type sh:PropertyShape ; sh:path ex2:price ; sh:class cdt:ucum ; sh:maxCount 1 ; ] . Why was a sh:class gene

[topbraid-users] general shacl question

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
I saw: owl2shacl:rdfsRange2shClassOrDatatype rdf:type sh:SPARQLRule ; rdfs:comment "For each relevant property that has an rdfs:range, create sh:class or sh:datatype constraint unless it already exists (from a restriction)." ; this triggers some questions for me: suppose the property is r

RE: [topbraid-users] class generated for datatype?

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] class generated for datatype? On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Price is defined as: ex2:price rdf:type owl:Dataty

RE: [topbraid-users] general shacl question

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
nderdag 1 november 2018 14:33 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] general shacl question On 1 Nov 2018, at 12:02, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: I saw: owl2shacl:rdfsRange2shClassO

RE: [topbraid-users] general shacl question

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
om: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of dprice Sent: donderdag 1 november 2018 15:11 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] general shacl question On 1 Nov 2018, at 13:54, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com&g

RE: [topbraid-users] general shacl question

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
dprice Sent: donderdag 1 november 2018 17:17 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] general shacl question On 1 Nov 2018, at 14:42, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Ok, so global cwa shapes are not

RE: [topbraid-users] general shacl question

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
/. The file that contains conversion rules is available in the TopBraid/SHACL project. On Nov 1, 2018, at 12:43 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi David, Wrt “Don’t understand what “global” or “cwa” have to do with

RE: [topbraid-users] general shacl question

2018-11-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
ise: my idea: a global owa constraint needs a global cwa constraint, kind of law of conservation of globalness 😊 Greetings, Michel On Nov 1, 2018, at 2:38 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Thx all clear..i will

[topbraid-users] improtting as prefix

2018-11-08 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Why in: " @prefix cdt: . @prefix dct: . @prefix ex1: . @prefix owl: . @prefix rdf: . @prefix rdfs:

RE: [topbraid-users] improtting as prefix

2018-11-08 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
onic transmission of messages. From: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Holger Knublauch Sent: donderdag 8 november 2018 23:18 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] improtting as prefix On 9/11/2018 6:41 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' vi

RE: [topbraid-users] owl no longer supported?

2018-11-16 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
The exact name is: OWL 2 Web Ontology Language XML Serialization (Second Edition) Abbreviated as OWL/XML, indeed not to be confused with OWL. Also Not associated with TopBraid in anyway just also a pleased user 😊.   Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior Data Scientist T +31888663107 M +3163038

[topbraid-users] skoxl?

2018-11-26 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Who knows what happened to the original skos-xl extensions not related to labels? Like skos: narrowerGeneric. (would be handy as weak form of rdfs:subClassOf, rdf:type etc.) I see they did not make it into the latest skos core or skosxl spec. Any rationale welcome! Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M.

RE: [topbraid-users] skoxl?

2018-11-26 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
like narrowerGeneric. Best link I could find is [2]. Richard [1] https://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/extensions/spec/2004-10-18.html [2] https://lov.linkeddata.es/dataset/lov/vocabs/iso-thes On 26 Nov 2018, at 08:30, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users

[topbraid-users] shacl versus owl/cwa

2018-12-04 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Dear all, When trying to promote shacl we typically run into the question: Why can't we just use OWL with CWA-interpretation (incl. non-UNA)? Some reasoners even have a "switch". We then say: * Shacl (core) is more powerful * Shacl will later (when?) cover shacl-af for rules, so inlin

RE: [topbraid-users] shacl versus owl/cwa

2018-12-05 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Thx Irene for inputs, very helpful. Peter, I can think of: you know which properties are relevant for a class (even when unconstrained) so you can prepare forms etc. Wrt extendibility I was thinking isnt owl as extendible as shacl? In owl you define your restrictions, in shacl too but only in s

RE: [topbraid-users] shacl versus owl/cwa

2018-12-05 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: > Thx Irene for inputs, very helpful. > > Peter, I can think of: you know which properties are relevant for a class > (even when unconstrained) so you can prepare forms etc. > > Wrt extendibility I was thinking isnt owl as

RE: [topbraid-users] shacl versus owl/cwa

2018-12-05 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
tologies unnecessarily complex. SHACL offers rich targetting. Further, SHACL is an extensible language. You can define constraints over and above Core using SHACL SPARQL and your own constraint components. And, yes, there is support for Rules. On Dec 4, 2018, at 3:43 PM, 'Bohms, H.M.

RE: [topbraid-users] Converting owl:allValuesFrom restriction to SHACL

2018-12-05 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Not using sh:in somehow ? (I have similar constraints in situations where enumeration datatypes are modelled as classes but where the actual allowed subset differs per domain (sub)class; ie a range is not specific enough) I also would like to know what the manual shacl code looks like in the e

RE: [topbraid-users] subPropertyOf subClassOf

2018-12-09 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Hi Bart Just curious…why would you like to subclass the standard rdfs subclass relationship? What is the added semantics in this case? My advice is always to stick to the standard and not touch the meta-model/language whenever possible. In general this causes incompatibilities between ontologi

[topbraid-users] overspecified?

2018-12-18 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Would the 3 lines at the end be overdone/double? Or no harm? ex1:LoadLevel rdf:type owl:Class ; rdfs:SubClassOf owl:Thing ; owl:oneOf (ex1:Light ex1:Normal ex1:Heavy) . ex1:Light rdf:type ex1:LoadLevel . ex1:Normal rdf:type ex1:LoadLevel . ex1:Heavy rdf:type ex1:LoadLevel . thx for advice

RE: [topbraid-users] overspecified?

2018-12-18 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
RQL queries and in checking that an item has at least one value from a specific enumerated class. Example: X ex1:hasLoadLevel ex1:Light . Is easily checked by ASK {?x a . ?x ex1:hasLoadLevel ?value . ?value a ex1:LoadLevel . } Cheers, David On 18 Dec 2018, at 11:54, 'Bohms, H.M. (Mich

RE: [topbraid-users] overspecified?

2018-12-19 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
ission of messages. From: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of dprice Sent: dinsdag 18 december 2018 17:34 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] overspecified? On 18 Dec 2018, at 12:35, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite

[topbraid-users] shacl import?

2019-01-16 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Can someone help me remember: Do I need rdf:type owl:Ontology ; owl:imports dct: ; owl:imports ; owl:imports . or is it dereferenceable thx a lot, Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior

RE: [topbraid-users] shacl import?

2019-01-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
e #) and this should be dereferenceable. In TopBraid, this will redirect to the local copy in the TopBraid/SHACL/shacl.ttl file. Holger On 16/01/2019 10:34 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: Can someone help me remember: Do I need <https://w3id.or

RE: [topbraid-users] shacl import?

2019-01-17 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
ing the URIs does not. Holger Sent from my iPad On 17 Jan 2019, at 18:26, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Ok But when it is deref. that way… why still need to import it (at all)? Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel

RE: [topbraid-users] shacl import?

2019-01-18 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
his is one of these never-ending topics where the semantic web stack is unfortunately too complex and almost everybody gets this wrong. Holger On 17/01/2019 6:32 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: Ok Is there any special reason why the ‘importing with #’ is d

RE: [topbraid-users] shacl import?

2019-01-19 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
: [topbraid-users] shacl import? On 18/01/2019 9:18 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: So I understand: for name spaces/deref. all fine but issue is more on (recursive) import/localfile reuse. Just one step back: why is shacl doing things special (so far I never saw # i

[topbraid-users] Classlevel properties?

2019-02-27 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Someone proposed the following pattern: ex:Height rdf:type owlClass ; rdfs:subClassOf opm:Property ; prefUnit "m" ; quantityKind cdt:length . Seems turtlewise ok. Seems rdfwise ok. Guess same as rdfwise Seems owlwise not ok...giving properties other than annotation properties to a class. Cou

FW: [topbraid-users] Classlevel properties?

2019-03-03 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
If not, then stop working with one hand tied behind your back! If you indeed must stick to OWL DL, I have nothing to offer but my heartfelt sympathy! Richard On 27 Feb 2019, at 09:05, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com&g

RE: [topbraid-users] Classlevel properties?

2019-03-06 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] Classlevel properties? On 6 Mar 2019, at 12:32, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi David, Thx and fully agree the wkt-issue! In att. I actua

[topbraid-users] workspace issue?

2019-04-11 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Is there any known issue with workspaces in 6.2 (or going to 6.2)? I have a file under: C:\Users\bohmshm\TBCMEWorkspace6.2\tbc.zip_expanded\MLG "basicsemantics.ttl" When I open in tbc it does not show THIS file (when I make manual changes to a class name it does not appear. (I did use right w

[topbraid-users] RE: workspace issue?

2019-04-11 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. From: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users Sent: donderdag 11 april 2019 12:50 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [topbraid-users] workspace

[topbraid-users] owl <> shacl

2019-04-23 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Is there a shacl-(specific) way for defining subclasses/subproperties (ie subshapes) or do we always need rdfs/owl for this? Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior Data Scientist T +31888663107 M +31630381220 E michel.bo...@tno.nl Location

RE: [topbraid-users] owl <> shacl

2019-04-23 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
019, at 10:26 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Is there a shacl-(specific) way for defining subclasses/subproperties (ie subshapes) or do we always need rdfs/owl for this? Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (

[topbraid-users] singleton

2019-04-30 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
I there anyway to restrict a class to one instance in OWL? (ie singleton) Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior Data Scientist T +31888663107 M +31630381220 E michel.bo...@tno.nl Location

RE: [topbraid-users] singleton

2019-04-30 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
ingleton On 30 Apr 2019, at 09:44, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: I there anyway to restrict a class to one instance in OWL? Make an enumerated class with only one individual that is of type the class. See

RE: [topbraid-users] singleton

2019-04-30 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
to the electronic transmission of messages. From: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of dprice Sent: dinsdag 30 april 2019 13:13 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] singleton On 30 Apr 2019, at 11:52, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite

RE: [topbraid-users] singleton

2019-04-30 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Behalf Of dprice Sent: dinsdag 30 april 2019 13:39 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Cc: Lars Wikstrom Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] singleton On 30 Apr 2019, at 12:18, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi Davi

RE: [topbraid-users] singleton

2019-04-30 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
, 2019, at 6:52 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hmmm, the one instance is not static, but changing... (so I was looking for a certain restriction on class level like “can contain max 1 instance”). Guess not inline

[topbraid-users] ID/about

2019-05-07 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
What are the rules for using rdf:ID and rdf:about in the XMl Syntax form in TBC? They seem to be mixed now (example attached). Or is it: first time encountered gets 'ID', any next time 'about'? Thx Michel Ps Normally using Turtle without this issue, now ran into it. Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel)

[topbraid-users] inference question

2019-05-08 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
What inference would derive domain and range for inverse properties? Ex: bs:describes a owl:ObjectProperty ; rdfs:domain bs:InformationObject ; rdfs:range [ a owl:Class ; owl:unionOf ( bs:PhysicalObject bs:InformationObject bs:State bs:Ev

RE: [topbraid-users] inference question

2019-05-08 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
spin:Templates. Their URIs align with rules in the above document e.g., owlrl:prp-inv1 To run inferencing, you need to include this file with rules and then use Inference>Run Inferencing. On May 8, 2019, at 11:27 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:t

[topbraid-users] all disjoint classes editting in tbc

2019-05-14 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
What I do: Make owl:AllDisjointClasses and owl:members visible via prefs I instantiate AllDisjointClass with anonymous I add widget for owl:members But then I cannot add the members like in this case bs:Activity [cid:image001.jpg@01D50A46.CD717150] So I must be doing something wrong... (I could

RE: [topbraid-users] all disjoint classes editting in tbc

2019-05-14 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
14 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com [topbraid-users@googlegroups.com] Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] all disjoint classes editting in tbc Range of owl:members is rdf:List. On May 14, 2019, at 5:18 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>&

[topbraid-users] specialisation amoung inidviduals ...

2019-05-22 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Suppose I model some class stuff as instances of metaclasses (ex: Class ProductType Instances Door, WoodenDoor Could I use rdfs:subClassOf to relate WoodenDoor and Door Or do I have unwanted side effects then? (like introducing punning since domain/range are classes via: rdfs:subClassOf a rdf:

RE: [topbraid-users] ID/about

2019-05-27 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
21 To: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] ID/about On 7 May 2019, at 08:34, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: What are the rules for using rdf:ID and rdf:about in the XM

[topbraid-users] FW: Fonts in TBC

2019-05-28 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Do you know how to change the font for the “headings” in the resource form in TBC? I figured out how to change the font for the actual data, but the predicates always seem unchanged (see example with ct:conformanceIndicator below – would like to make the “predicate heading” bigger)… [cid:image

RE: [topbraid-users] ID/about

2019-05-28 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
- ok for TBC? If it is valid RDF/XML, TBC will be able to handle it (or else it's a bug). > noticed that wit an example but after some change/save it wil of course > replace some by ID again This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if

[topbraid-users] nontyped data

2019-06-04 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Strange the values for hasUnit hasValue for ex:ClearOpeningHeight_1 do not have a type indication (^^xsd:string/decimal) any idea what I am doing wrong? Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior Data Scientist T +31888663107 M +31630381220 E michel.bo...@tno.nl

RE: [topbraid-users] nontyped data

2019-06-04 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
y value is correct). So, I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong … it’s working. Cheers, David On 4 Jun 2019, at 20:52, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Strange the values for hasUnit hasValue for ex:ClearOpenin

RE: [topbraid-users] nontyped data

2019-06-04 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
s are string and decimal (i.e. icon next to the property value is correct). So, I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong … it’s working. Cheers, David On 4 Jun 2019, at 20:52, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Stra

RE: [topbraid-users] nontyped data

2019-06-05 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
ission of messages. From: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of dprice Sent: woensdag 5 juni 2019 10:43 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] nontyped data On 4 Jun 2019, at 22:51, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@g

RE: [topbraid-users] nontyped data

2019-06-05 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Crystal Clear! I was looking too much for (direct) consistency instead of minimalism 😊. Thans Andy, Dave! Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior Data Scientist T +31888663107 M +31630381220 E michel.bo...@tno.nl Location

[topbraid-users] Shacl for disj.unions?

2019-06-25 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Verzonden van mijn Android-telefoon via TouchDown (www.symantec.com) -Original Message- Received: dinsdag, 25 jun. 2019, 19:28 Wil tbc generate shacl for owl disjointunions ? Thx michel Verzonden van mijn Android-telefoon via TouchDown (www.symantec.com) This message may contain infor

RE: [topbraid-users] Shacl for disj.unions?

2019-06-25 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
ur workspace contains the actual rules - it gives you the info that is most up to date/corresponding to your version. On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:29 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Verzonden van mijn An

RE: [topbraid-users] Shacl for disj.unions?

2019-06-26 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
disj.unions? The current answer is no, owl:disjointUnionOf is not supported. I haven't seen enough use cases of it. The more traditional owl:disjointWith is supported by the converter. Holger On 26/06/2019 07:04, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: Thx

RE: [topbraid-users] Shacl for disj.unions?

2019-06-27 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
.unions? On 26 Jun 2019, at 08:40, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Ok, thx Holger. Any tips of best manual translation would be great. The owl would be: Document abstract class for references to a docum

[topbraid-users] shacl issue

2019-07-01 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Trying to execute an existing shacle sparql query. However, not showing up in tbc (the query). Any hint very welcome, Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior Data Scientist T +31888663107 M +31630381220 E michel.bo...@tno.nl Location

RE: [topbraid-users] shacl issue

2019-07-01 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
rice Sent: maandag 1 juli 2019 16:58 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] shacl issue Maybe isIRI ? https://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-sparql11-query-20130321/#func-isIRI Cheers, David On 1 Jul 2019, at 15:25, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite

[topbraid-users] owl full?

2019-07-05 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
I have asked before but forgot exact outcome. Suppose I define: :height rdf:type owl:DatatypeProperty ; rdfs:domain :Door ; :methodToDetermine "M123" . Is this: - allowed OWL Full, or - not allowed at all I hope: OWL Full since this all owes use all features of RDF (ie it does not constrain).

RE: [topbraid-users] owl full?

2019-07-05 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
F* here (nesting a triple in a subject) Cheers, David On 5 Jul 2019, at 10:34, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: I have asked before but forgot exact outcome. Suppose I define: :height rdf:type owl:Da

[topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-07 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
In the W3C LBD we are comparing different ways of modelling (complex) properties. One option: ex:Height rdf:type bs:PropertyType ; bs:hasQuantity cdt:length . ex:Door_1 rdf:type ex :Door ; bs:hasProperty ex:Height_1 . ex:Height_1 rdf:type bs:Property ;

RE: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-08 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
WL-DL, you can also use option 3. As option 1, it does not entail any inferences. > all clear. Remember now you told me earlier...sorry..anyway, so this could be > an alternative iso restrictions (going beyond owl-dl) On Jul 7, 2019, at 7:15 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBrai

RE: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-09 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
ent: dinsdag 9 juli 2019 00:03 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint Michel, Please see below Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2019, at 3:53 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com&

RE: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-09 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
ission of messages. From: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of dprice Sent: dinsdag 9 juli 2019 00:26 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint On 8 Jul 2019, at 20:53, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite

RE: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-09 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
e nasa/tq handbook? No - NASA are wanting a web-based version of QUDT and that is what is happening. > ok, that’s better indeed! Copying Steve Ray who is the lead ontology manager for QUDT. > Thx Michel Ralph On Jul 8, 2019, at 3:53 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid

RE: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-10 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
property to constraint Michel, Please see below Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2019, at 3:53 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi Irene, Se after > Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior Data Scientist T +318

RE: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-10 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
ments. And with every option, quantity kind is already associated with the :Height. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2019, at 3:26 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Wrt “strings to things” > fully agree, so the “

RE: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-10 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
ave to use allvaluesfrom iso hasValue (that > waytbc is fine without the quotes) Right? On Jul 10, 2019, at 9:13 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi Irene Coming back to modelling with constraints. I

RE: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-10 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
in this, feel free to continue the discussion. Regards, Irene On Jul 10, 2019, at 10:31 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: I never use this dialog. I simply type in Manchester syntax. But I see that you are

RE: [topbraid-users] from property to constraint

2019-07-10 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
want. Then, everyone would be clear that they should not assume OWL semantic, but need to read and follow the definitions you supply for this property. On Jul 10, 2019, at 11:36 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>>

[topbraid-users] qudt revisited

2019-07-11 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Hi Irene, (Ralph) Following our discussions on property modelling I went back to qudt again. (1.1 since 2.0 is too limited published for now). I try to reuse C:\Users\bohmshm\TBCMEWorkspace6.2\TopBraid\LinkedModels/qudt.ttl. There is: qudt-v1:quantity rdf:type owl:ObjectProperty ; dc:descr

[topbraid-users] RE: qudt revisited

2019-07-11 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Moreover: In http://qudt.org/1.1/vocab/quantity There are (in parallel!): xmlns:qudt-quantity=http://qudt.org/vocab/quantity# xmlns:quantity=http://qudt.org/schema/quantity# (looks like an error...) xmlns:qudt-quantity-1.1=http://qudt.org/1.1/vocab/quantity# and nowhere I can f

[topbraid-users] units cont.

2019-07-11 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
http://www.qudt.org/1.1/vocab/unit has: http://qudt.org/vocab/unit#Meter";> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string";>m http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string";>Meter http://dbpedia.org/resource/Metre"/> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#double";>1 http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string";>1090

[topbraid-users] tbc error

2019-07-11 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
The error I get based on a small subset (attached) is: “ The base URI http://qudt.org/2.0/vocab/unit/space-and-time from L/tbc.zip_expanded/QUDT/check.ttl is already used in file L/QUDT/check.ttl , so use of this base URI may cause difficulties. Please change one or other. (TBC case) “ For thi

RE: [topbraid-users] Re: qudt revisited

2019-07-18 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
I will. Complexity is ok imho, it’s just that it takes so long to have the resources available/online. Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior Data Scientist T +31888663107 M +31630381220 E michel.bo...@tno.nl Location

[topbraid-users] anyType?

2019-07-30 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Isn't there xsd:anyType in RDF since it is the default when not specifying a range? (just checking) Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms Senior Data Scientist T +31888663107 M +31630381220 E michel.bo...@tno.nl Location

Re: [topbraid-users] anyType?

2019-07-30 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
i can use xsd anyuri. Gr michel Op 30 jul. 2019 18:13 schreef dprice : On 30 Jul 2019, at 16:19, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Isn’t there xsd:anyType in RDF since it is the default when not specifying

Re: [topbraid-users] anyType?

2019-07-30 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
URIs, then use rdfs:Resource as the range. Of course, RDFS is not about constraints or data validity, but about inferences. > On Jul 30, 2019, at 5:59 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users > wrote: > > Hi david where or better how i got the idea... >

RE: [topbraid-users] anyType?

2019-07-31 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
...? >yet another alt. is: https://schema.org/value (but not for >uris/objectproperties) Thx michel Holger On 31/07/2019 15:47, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: In my case uris are seperate. So its about all values not being an uri...so the most generic

[topbraid-users] enum definition question

2019-08-05 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
When I use owl:one (classlevel for enumeration types) do I still need to do the rdf:type's for the items or are those implicit/asserted? (In case of open lists I have to but I now also do it for closed lists assuming, maybe wrongly, that that one of is only the constraint) Dr. ir. H.M. (M

RE: [topbraid-users] Re: qudt revisited

2019-08-29 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
18, 2019 at 9:24:33 AM UTC-7, AW wrote: Thank you, Michel. If the underlying resources are not available, that also seems like a barrier. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 12:46 AM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users > wrote: I will. Complexity is ok imho, it’s just that it takes

RE: [topbraid-users] Re: qudt revisited

2019-09-01 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
July 18, 2019 at 9:24:33 AM UTC-7, AW wrote: Thank you, Michel. If the underlying resources are not available, that also seems like a barrier. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 12:46 AM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbrai...@googlegroups.com>> wrote: I w

[topbraid-users] equivalent classes?

2019-09-03 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Suppose I have two independent sources: one having class X and the other having class Y where people think looking at the classes in isolation that the two are the same. So they link them with equivalentclass. But they have different hierarchy with potential diff. restrictions "above". Can it

RE: [topbraid-users] Re: qudt revisited

2019-09-03 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
at your example, For example: unit:M (http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/M) ...because the link works fine for me, both from a browser, and from a terminal using curl. Steve On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 11:28 PM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@go

RE: [topbraid-users] Re: qudt revisited

2019-09-05 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
e of them contain the extraneous "all". Steve On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:59 PM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: All clear, thx And yes link works here too so example was not ok Guess your system work

[topbraid-users] ?issue

2019-09-09 Thread &#x27;Bohms, H.M. (Michel)&#x27; via TopBraid Suite Users
Tbc is not showing type of LoadLevel in: # baseURI: https://w3id.org/def/example4 # imports: http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core # imports: http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl# # imports: https://w3id.org/def/basicsemantics-owl # prefix: ex4 @prefix bs: . @prefix

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