Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-14 Thread mick
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:58:21 +0100 Graham Todd disabled.pensio...@riseup.net allegedly wrote: Even if this part of Kent, there are only three types of provision: cable (Virgin), telephone company (varies but relies on a BT line in the house) and satellite (mainly Sky and Freesat) We have

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-13 Thread Graham Todd
If enough UK users vote with their wallets, ISPs may be more inclined to grow a pair. ... Voting w/ your feet / wallet sometimes works, when consumers have choices. In some locales, there are very few affordable alternatives ISPs know this, when that's the case. Even if this part of Kent,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-12 Thread Luther Blissett
On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 11:43 -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: The staged release may be a good idea, but have they got the timing right? this article is dated June 6 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order that was 4 months ago. How many

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Thanks for the input, Luther. Phrase meanings: just like home, sweet home. - In this context, meaning like in the U.S. Or just like in most countries. they give as good as they get. - one person (or country) may (or has the ability to) do the same to others, as is being done to them. the

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-12 Thread gct7photography
Hi Mick, This past week on the Tor Help Desk someone requested assistance setting up Tor to circumvent the internet censorship done by the UK government. I wrote this blurb because I wanted the Tor community to be alerted to this new use case. I pointed to your post so that Tor Weekly News

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-11 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 06:40:22PM -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote: The staged release may be a good idea, but have they got the timing right? Probably not, but processing that pile of information is hard work. this article is dated June 6

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
The staged release may be a good idea, but have they got the timing right? this article is dated June 6 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order that was 4 months ago. How many articles have they published since then? Actually, if the assumption is

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-11 Thread David Green
Yes, pots and kettles; governments are a Mafia unto themselves... but we do need them...? ;D On 11 October 2013 12:43, Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: The staged release may be a good idea, but have they got the timing right? this article is dated June 6

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-11 Thread mick
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:51:24 + Matt Pagan m...@pagan.io allegedly wrote: This past week on the Tor Help Desk someone requested assistance setting up Tor to circumvent the internet censorship done by the UK government. I wrote this blurb because I wanted the Tor community to be alerted to

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-11 Thread Matt Pagan
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:41:25 +0100 mick m...@rlogin.net wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:51:24 + Matt Pagan m...@pagan.io allegedly wrote: This past week on the Tor Help Desk someone requested assistance setting up Tor to circumvent the internet censorship done by the UK government. I

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/11/2013 1:41 PM, mick wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:51:24 + Matt Pagan m...@pagan.io allegedly wrote: Hi Matt No problem. However, whilst we do have the beginnings of very intrusive network censorship in the UK (some ISPs are more pliable than others... ...you could equally say

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:32:35PM -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote: Why hasn't Snowden published all the stuff he got from the NSA nazis? Why hasn't he uploaded it to wikileaks for instance? Or torrented it? He seems to believe in responsive disclosure (Cablegate set a few ops in the field

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-10 Thread Juan Garofalo
--On Thursday, October 10, 2013 10:13 AM +0200 Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:32:35PM -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote: Why hasn't Snowden published all the stuff he got from the NSA nazis? Why hasn't he uploaded it to wikileaks for instance? Or torrented it?

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/9/2013 10:27 AM, Lunar wrote: Tor Weekly NewsOctober 9th, 2013 Welcome to the fifteenth issue of Tor

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-09 Thread harmony01
On 10/9/2013 10:27 AM, Lunar wrote: Tor Weekly NewsOctober 9th, 2013 Welcome to the fifteenth issue of Tor

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-09 Thread Juan Garofalo
--On Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:35 PM +0100 mick m...@rlogin.net wrote: On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 18:51:50 - harmon...@riseup.net allegedly wrote: I wouldn't take seriously anything that ANY gov't publicly reveals about their technology or intelligence capability (or lack there or).

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-09 Thread Crypto
Well you know what I mean. I'm getting used to a new tablet. Crypto cry...@jpunix.net wrote: Excellent! Iclove it! Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: On 10/9/2013 5:32 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: Why hasn't Snowden published all the stuff he got from the NSA nazis? Why hasn't he

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/9/2013 5:32 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: Why hasn't Snowden published all the stuff he got from the NSA nazis? Why hasn't he uploaded it to wikileaks for instance? Or torrented it? Top 10 Reasons Snowden hasn't published his documents: 10. Wiki what? 9. Unaware of statute of

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-09 Thread Crypto
Excellent! Iclove it! Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: On 10/9/2013 5:32 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: Why hasn't Snowden published all the stuff he got from the NSA nazis? Why hasn't he uploaded it to wikileaks for instance? Or torrented it? Top 10 Reasons Snowden hasn't published

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/9/2013 6:52 PM, Crypto wrote: Excellent! I [love] it! Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: On 10/9/2013 5:32 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: Why hasn't Snowden published all the stuff he got from the NSA nazis? Why hasn't he uploaded it to wikileaks for instance? Or torrented it?

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News ? October 9th, 2013

2013-10-09 Thread ramo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for that Letterman... On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 06:43:56PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 10/9/2013 5:32 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: Why hasn't Snowden published all the stuff he got from the NSA nazis? Why hasn't he uploaded it to

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — October 9th, 2013

2013-10-09 Thread Juan Garofalo
--On Wednesday, October 09, 2013 6:52 PM -0500 Crypto cry...@jpunix.net wrote: Excellent! Iclove it! #5 is pretty funny. #2 and #4 sound kinda plausible =P Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com wrote: On 10/9/2013 5:32 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: Why hasn't Snowden published all the