Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Potential Newbie Sheevaplug Touch questions

2010-08-20 Thread lrossouw
woodnut;570233 Wrote: My Orange wireless router is far away from my HiFi and hence this is the reason I wanted to avoid running a long cable from my Hifi to the router. Of course I could as suggested have the Sheevaplug next to the router and stream wirelessly and perhaps this would be fine,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Potential Newbie Sheevaplug Touch questions

2010-08-20 Thread woodnut
Phil Leigh;570430 Wrote: {sigh} What is the rest of your system like? I take it you think Its a waste of time? - I am always interested in experimenting for myself. I am prepared to accept there may be no change to performance. Many aspects of my setup I have experimented with have given no

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch, compared to Classic, PS and portable HD

2010-08-20 Thread Dura
Strange, that difference on my systeem between the Classic and the Touch. Both are only used as digital transport, so differences should be far smaller then what I hear in reality. Perhaps the DAC's sensitivity to RFI and/or jitter? Anyway, I realised I had my systeem tweaked to improve the focus

[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch still not available in Canada?

2010-08-20 Thread mbg
Is the Touch still not available in Canada? Nowhere here seems to have it (or have ever had it), even though they list it in their inventory. -- mbg mbg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3200 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch, compared to Classic, PS and portable HD

2010-08-20 Thread firedog
Dura, give the Touch some time. Our brains get used to a certain sound, and when we change a component we often (subconsciously) don't like the sound b/c it is different, and our reference sound is the sound we are used to. Try listening only to the Touch for a few weeks, and then compare to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch still not available in Canada?

2010-08-20 Thread alfista
Available at Logitech's Canadadian web site, and probably only there since it's labeled as Logitech.com exclusive -- alfista alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread firedog
I've read several somewhat negative reviews of the Touch by reviewers who didn't know about it's hi-res capabilities or its built in SBS (no external server necessary) - in other words, they missed the point of the device. So it will be refreshing to read a review in Stereophile, as they should

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch still not available in Canada?

2010-08-20 Thread Mnyb
alfista;570546 Wrote: Available at Logitech's Canadadian web site, and probably only there since it's labeled as Logitech.com exclusive They are freshly out ? the link points to a notify me form... Sorry for all Canadian squeezebox fans, logitech ca seems to lost their marbles in more than

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread Mnyb
Well at last will see some measurments on it :) by John Atkinson technical spec is scarse so it will be interesting. many times JA sidebar is more interesting than the subjective review. Hopefully they can explore it's functionality a little better than previous reviews and not thinks it's a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread MickeyG
There are upcoming reviews for Squeezebox Touch in both Stereophile and The Absolute Sound. Mickey -- MickeyG Transporter Classé Audio DR6 Mark Levinson 23 Wilson Watt 3/Puppy 1/Martin Logan Dynamo 700 MickeyG's

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread Phil Leigh
MickeyG;570601 Wrote: There are upcoming reviews for Squeezebox Touch in both Stereophile and The Absolute Sound. Mickey He He - let's hope the stockpile is ready for the purchasing spree after positive reviews... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread iPhone
MickeyG;570601 Wrote: There are upcoming reviews for Squeezebox Touch in both Stereophile and The Absolute Sound. Mickey So now we know why the Touch is only available through the Logitech Website! Just kidding, but couldn't resist tweaking the conspiracy theorist. I agree with Phil,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Best Volume Setting

2010-08-20 Thread Kevin Haskins
Mnyb;570459 Wrote: 100% and then use the preamps level would be better. 50% is to little , sbs uses a 24bit digital volume control so it's quite good, but 50% would be to close for comfort. 100% if you have a volume controll in the preamp this would maximise snr ratio on the Touch.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Best Volume Setting

2010-08-20 Thread Phil Leigh
Kevin Haskins;570620 Wrote: It is fairly hot at 100%. I measure PP 5V on the scope with just some music playing.I should upload a sine wave and get a nice pretty picture.I'm trying to use it on my active speakers with 60-70% -- 100% so that I can just avoid dealing with another

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread JJZolx
In forums all over the internet (including this one) the sound quality using Touch's built-in server has been thoroughly trashed as inferior to using an external SbS. So much so that I wouldn't be surprised to see it either not mentioned at all or else similarly discounted in an audiophile

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread Phil Leigh
JJZolx;570623 Wrote: In forums all over the internet (including this one) the sound quality using Touch's built-in server has been thoroughly trashed as inferior to using an external SbS. So much so that I wouldn't be surprised to see it either not mentioned at all or else similarly

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Best Volume Setting

2010-08-20 Thread Kevin Haskins
Phil Leigh;570622 Wrote: Stick some inline attenuators in... 15-20dB should do the trick I can just change the gain structure of the amp. Either can work... but obviously large value resistors add Johnson noise.It won't be audible but it is just as easy to change the feedback resistors

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread ralphpnj
As we await the Stereophile and TAS reviews perhaps we can amuse ourselves with a little guessing game of what each review might contain. I'll go first. Stereophile: 1) They will give the Touch a favorable review and say that it is big step up from the SB Classic. 2) They will state that while

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread danull
JJZolx;570623 Wrote: In forums all over the internet (including this one) the sound quality using Touch's built-in server has been thoroughly trashed as inferior to using an external SbS. So much so that I wouldn't be surprised to see it either not mentioned at all or else similarly

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Best Volume Setting

2010-08-20 Thread JohnSwenson
Kevin Haskins;570620 Wrote: It is fairly hot at 100%. I measure PP 5V on the scope with just some music playing.I should upload a sine wave and get a nice pretty picture.I'm trying to use it on my active speakers with 60-70% -- 100% so that I can just avoid dealing with another

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Potential Newbie Sheevaplug Touch questions

2010-08-20 Thread Siegfried Löffler
When you look at powerline in combination with a Sheevaplug, you might want to have a close look at the power consumption of the powerline adaptors. If I remember right a test report I read about a year ago, these adaptors consume quite a lot, two of them probably more than 20W... so you probably

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj;570636 Wrote: As we await the Stereophile and TAS reviews perhaps we can amuse ourselves with a little guessing game of what each review might contain. I'll go first. Stereophile: 1) They will give the Touch a favorable review and say that it is big step up from the SB

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Potential Newbie Sheevaplug Touch questions

2010-08-20 Thread garym
woodnut;570513 Wrote: I take it you think Its a waste of time? - I am always interested in experimenting for myself. I am prepared to accept there may be no change to performance. Many aspects of my setup I have experimented with have given no increase in performance but on the other hand

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread Phil Leigh
danull;570646 Wrote: Have to say I agree with them. I recently gave up on TinySBS and went back to normal SBS on my workstation - the performance of the built in SBS on touch was terrible... I've been watching for other people complaining about performance and citing bugs but haven't seen

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread Phil Leigh
ralphpnj;570636 Wrote: As we await the Stereophile and TAS reviews perhaps we can amuse ourselves with a little guessing game of what each review might contain. I'll go first. ...very funny post... Now I hope that I'm completely wrong but I won't be keeping my hopes up. Damn - you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] lyrics plugin

2010-08-20 Thread Gus
Hi Erland, I've installed both the Song Info and Song Lyrics plugins but can't seem to get them to work either. If I select Song Info from the menu (with Song Lyrics set up on the interface as the default option) and use the right arrow on the controller the screen simply goes blank. Can you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue

2010-08-20 Thread danull
Phil Leigh;570676 Wrote: Are you talking about audio quality or just performance? Time it takes to load the music library when telling it to list albums/artists, and the time it takes in between telling it to play a song and the sound coming out of the device(on a SB Radio using the TinySBS