Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-05 Thread Mnyb
Phil Leigh;661406 Wrote: > That's how they sound to you. > > I can absolutely assure you that whilst a cable IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE > THINGS IT IS CONNECTED TO can definitely roll-off/boost the treble > and/or roll-off/boost the bass, it can't actually "restrict" dynamics > or make the midband

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-05 Thread Phil Leigh
jhnpennington;661412 Wrote: > Yes, I do realize that, but was trying to keep to subjective aural > assessments on a hi-fi forum. > Cheers > John :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolens

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-05 Thread jhnpennington
Phil Leigh;661406 Wrote: > That's how they sound to you. > > I can absolutely assure you that whilst a cable IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE > THINGS IT IS CONNECTED TO can definitely roll-off/boost the treble > and/or roll-off/boost the bass, it can't actually "restrict" dynamics > or make the midband

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-05 Thread Phil Leigh
jhnpennington;661400 Wrote: > OK, if you prefer a lengthier exposition, they emphasize bass, whilst > simultaneously rolling off the treble, with a congested midband and > restricted dynamics. That's how they sound to you. I can absolutely assure you that whilst a cable IN CONJUNCTION WITH TH

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-05 Thread jhnpennington
Ron Olsen;661387 Wrote: > "muffle the sound" ??? Sorry, but I have to laugh. OK, if you prefer a lengthier exposition, they emphasize bass, whilst simultaneously rolling off the treble, with a congested midband and restricted dynamics. -- jhnpennington ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-05 Thread Ron Olsen
"muffle the sound" ??? Sorry, but I have to laugh. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90706

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-05 Thread jhnpennington
Mnyb;661326 Wrote: > Why not blind test those nordost cables to ;) an ok but avarege troll > attempt meh I'm sorry mate, but I don't know what you mean. I have realised, though, that I have called myself a cynic but have Nordost interconnects! In my defence they only cost me 70 quid used, and t

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread Mnyb
Why not blind test those nordost cables to ;) an ok but avarege troll attempt meh -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread TheLastMan
mlsstl;661228 Wrote: > "Why does it work?" has answers at two extremes. At one end, the > equipment change resulted in some technical improvement - perhaps lower > interference or noise - that you're now hearing. > > At the other end, it could be all in your head. > > In the middle, it could

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread adamdea
jhnpennington;661221 Wrote: > Yes, I am using the Analogue outputs > FWIW, the system downstream from the touch is fairly transparent - > Nordost Red Dawn interconnects, Pioneer A400 amp, Stirling LS3/5a V2 > speakers. Ah that explains it: the Nordost interconnects will definitely be creating su

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread mlsstl
"Why does it work?" has answers at two extremes. At one end, the equipment change resulted in some technical improvement - perhaps lower interference or noise - that you're now hearing. At the other end, it could be all in your head. In the middle, it could be a combination of those factors.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread jhnpennington
Phil Leigh;661213 Wrote: > Are you using the analogue output of the Touch? Yes, I am using the Analogue outputs FWIW, the system downstream from the touch is fairly transparent - Nordost Red Dawn interconnects, Pioneer A400 amp, Stirling LS3/5a V2 speakers. -- jhnpennington --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread Mnyb
Or the indirect cause, the original switchmode supply disturbs other parts of the hifi-system (not the the Touch or SB3 itself). -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread Phil Leigh
Are you using the analogue output of the Touch? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZ

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread jhnpennington
toby10;661210 Wrote: > Maybe your ears & equipment & room acoustics are just better than every > one else's? :) Yes, I would have replied pretty much the same, but I have pretty standard ears, equipment & room acoustics. -- jhnpennington --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread toby10
Maybe your ears & equipment & room acoustics are just better than every one else's? :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/show

[SlimDevices: Touch] I'm a cynic, so why does it work???

2011-10-04 Thread jhnpennington
Right, I have a Squeezebox Touch in a pretty decent system, and out of interest (to disprove the claims, really), I ordered a power supply upgrade from Mark Grant (Best of Two Worlds linear power supply including 's' booster) on a month's guaranteed refund basis. With much blind testing, this damn