Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-05 Thread adamdea
The stereophile measurements for the SBT suggest it is really very well engineered. It probably should not be a surprise that it sounds good. I am gradually coming round to the view that 1 competently designed digital source components are pretty good these days. 2 the difference between

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-03 Thread Gadgety1
This may sound ignorant, rambling, and even slightly off topic. I'll make my point, which is about tweaking, eventually. First, I don't even own the Touch. Second, I've got a couple of Duet receivers, so it's not even 24/96. Third, Over the past decade, I've been through tweaking hardware, using

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-03 Thread Stilly77
Agree, a well mastered recording can sound very good on even the cheapest gear. I've heard some 128 kbps mp3 that has sounded better than some of my 24/96 recordings. However, I've also heard some of my 24/96 sound better on different equipment. -- Stilly77

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread Ron Olsen
I find it very interesting that some Touch owners are extremely pleased with its sound quality, but others find it very lacking, and make extensive modifications to the Touch firmware, hardware, etc. to improve it. Why such a dichotomy in the Touch user experience? -- Ron Olsen

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread pippin
Because it's cheap for how it sounds. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread garym
Ron Olsen;660809 Wrote: I find it very interesting that some Touch owners are extremely pleased with its sound quality, but others find it very lacking, and make extensive modifications to the Touch firmware, hardware, etc. to improve it. Why such a dichotomy in the Touch user experience?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread mlsstl
My former source was a SB3 with a Lavry DA-10. When I got the Touch a year and a half ago, I synced and level matched the analog outs of the Touch against the SB3/Lavry combo. After two weeks of comparison, I found I couldn't reliably tell the difference between the two set-ups, so I sold the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread Soulkeeper
I pulled the caps out of my Touch, not because I found anything lacking in the sound, but because I read a competent and plausible explanation of what the caps were supposed to do (stop DC from the DAC), what they really did (not work because the DAC outputs no DC, and instead mess with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread guidof
Ron Olsen;660809 Wrote: I find it very interesting that some Touch owners are extremely pleased with its sound quality, but others find it very lacking, and make extensive modifications to the Touch firmware, hardware, etc. to improve it. Why such a dichotomy in the Touch user experience?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread Stilly77
guidof;660935 Wrote: May it have something to do with the equipment to which the Touch is connected? Guido F. I think that pretty much nails it. Hardware/software mods, cabling, equipment, human hearing and probably no-one with the exact same setup. Little wonder about vast user

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread dsdreamer
Second Bedroom: Squeezebox Touch - Grado SR125 headphones I find that even a modest headphone amp makes a huge difference to the experience of using a Touch through cans. I think this accounts for your audio quality suffering in the 2nd bedroom. Possibly, the cheap headphone stage in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread Stilly77
dsdreamer;660962 Wrote: I find that even a modest headphone amp makes a huge difference to the experience of using a Touch through cans. I think this accounts for your audio quality suffering in the 2nd bedroom. Possibly, the cheap headphone stage in the Touch is the culprit, which I believe

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-02 Thread Mnyb
dsdreamer;660962 Wrote: I find that even a modest headphone amp makes a huge difference to the experience of using a Touch through cans. I think this accounts for your audio quality suffering in the 2nd bedroom. Possibly, the cheap headphone stage in the Touch is the culprit, which I believe

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-10-01 Thread jhnpennington
I very much agree I have recently bought a Squeezebox Touch with a Linear Power Supply plus S-Booster, Nordost Red Dawn interconnects and Stirling Audio LS3 5a V2 speakers and the sound lacks nothing compared to my Cyrus CD6SE. -- jhnpennington

[SlimDevices: Touch] On a positive note (Touch's analog out)

2011-09-30 Thread Beech
Hi folks. After reading through some of the topic dealing with changing caps on the analog output of the Touch, I decided to do a comparison between its D/A and an Apogee Rosetta 200. So after connecting both the digital and analog, I level matched both as close as I could by ear. Result?