Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Free Software

2012-03-09 Thread chris
I think he we was getting at how it is benefitial for end users. What does the source code liecening terms let you do as an end user you generally couldn't do otherwise?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Free Software

2012-03-09 Thread chris
Keep pushing back against the university. Make people aware of it. Every time you encounter a problem complain! Make others aware. The more costly it is for them to ignore the problem the better. We need to demand free software compatibility. The US is better I think most of the time than

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Free Software

2012-03-09 Thread chris
http://libre.thinkpenguin.com/ Note: I'm not sure this works in China. We run a Tor node (non-exit). I forget if the IP address it is assigned to is the same as the Tor node. We have never had a Chinese customer. We have had customers from other countries in the region. If you would like

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Free Software

2012-03-09 Thread chris
Complain to the banks and stop using them. I don't know how many banks a typical Chinese city has. I know a small town in the US though generally has many banks to choose from. That said depending on your needs there are banking features that are almost impossible to get in the US without

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Free Software

2012-03-09 Thread sirgrant
1) We aren't huge on wine. Wine is a compatibility layer mostly used to just run non-free programs. I have used wine one time and that was just to get the screenshots for the documentation on how to [https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/burn-trisquel-cd-images burn trisquel disks on windows]

Re: [Trisquel-users] Guide: Turn Trisquel 4.5 and 5.0 into Trisquel 4.0

2012-03-09 Thread alonivtsan
Here is trisquel-grub.png

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Free Software

2012-03-09 Thread robsanchez
My point is simple, freedom is meaningless if the users have to give up too many things. I respect your opinion, and here's mine: freedom DOES matter even if it means giving up a lot (in some cases even everything). I would highly suggest you read Mako's article on When Free Software Isn't

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF approved BSD

2012-03-09 Thread mampir
It's not true that the FSF doesn't approve of any BDS system because of the other free licenses they uses. They do recommend the latest GNU GPL license for most software mainly because of it's copy-left function, but this isn't mandatory for a program to be approved by them. They don't

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF approved BSD

2012-03-09 Thread tegskywalker
I think this pretty much shows the conflict between the camps or at least the BSD license: The GPL can present a real problem for those wishing to commercialize and profit from software. For example, the GPL adds to the difficulty a graduate student will have in directly forming a company

Re: [Trisquel-users] Guide: Turn Trisquel 4.5 and 5.0 into Trisquel 4.0

2012-03-09 Thread tegskywalker
I'm also in the camp where I felt that 4.0 was better looking and more polished than the newer versions. For example, I still have no idea why they went with the ugly trash icon for the desktop in newer releases when the 4.0 one was better looking. This is a good guide and will keep in mind

Re: [Trisquel-users] Please keep Trisquel 5.5 CD-R size

2012-03-09 Thread tegskywalker
Just saw this today that Ubuntu 12.04 will be kept down to ISO size due to backlash. It does make sense considering the beta ISOs were barely over the CD size and not like 2-4 GB which would require a DVD. Kudos to Canonical:

[Trisquel-users] Re : Guide: Turn Trisquel 4.5 and 5.0 into Trisquel 4.0

2012-03-09 Thread ben
I agree, bring back the old trash can :)!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Please keep Trisquel 5.5 CD-R size

2012-03-09 Thread sirgrant
It is a [https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/brigantia-development known issue that the ISO's are too big]. See the development page. It is the first item on there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF approved BSD

2012-03-09 Thread sirgrant
Ok that first article you linked is about open-source and making $$. [https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Free software] (what we are concerned about here) is black and white. Does a license provide for the 4 freedoms or not. Both the modified BSD license and GPL are both free

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF approved BSD

2012-03-09 Thread chris
We have looked at FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and other BSD distributions in terms of chipset support. If you think Trisquel lacks support for hardware then BSD doesn't support anything at all. :) While some of our products do work with at least some BSD flavors a lot of it is only on the verge of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Please keep Trisquel 5.5 CD-R size

2012-03-09 Thread chris
I like how the Linux Mint distribution does it (to a degree). They offer two flavors. The CD version includes just the critical programs and the DVD version includes everything else. I actually think sticking to restricting the distribution to the software which will fit on a CD is a bad

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF approved BSD

2012-03-09 Thread tegskywalker
I think Canonical does a great job supporting the ecosystem by providing a lot of resources even though they really haven't made money on Ubuntu yet and is still Shuttleworth's money. They also got the support of companies and universities to mirror their packages all over the US which is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Please keep Trisquel 5.5 CD-R size

2012-03-09 Thread tegskywalker
I'm in the camp where I think they should not include LibreOffice Draw, Math, and Base since the majority of people will not use them. If I am using a vector based editor, it is either Inkscape or Scribus. If I'm doing database work, it is mainly with MySQL or MongoDB. I'm guessing Base is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Please keep Trisquel 5.5 CD-R size

2012-03-09 Thread chris
I haven't looked into the space that Math requires once Writer is installed although I suspect it is inconsequential and you won't actually gain much by removing. At least that is my experience with a distribution I worked on many years ago. The two share libraries (as do many other