Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread alonivtsan
Here is a video of the latest version of e17 (which I'm using on all my computers including on the Neo Freerunner which runs the mobile version of this on Debian) which looks much better in my opinion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHJuMuMXjlE e17 would also work well if Trisquel wants to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread viniciussm
The only definition I can think of is 'incomplete'. The only native application, besides the environment itself, is their file manager. They need more and I'm counting on it for E18. It is not very easy to modify it in the sense you won't screw it up by accident like you could delete the gn

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread Roeplay
I'm going to be open-minded and watch the videos. Enlightenment is the one I probably know the least about ... I've been avoiding it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread joseph . e . dickson
XFCE would get my vote, Using Gnome Classic just makes things feel old.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread viniciussm
I think that E18 by the end of this year will be suited for desktop use as much as other DE's. Here are some neat things you can do with E17 right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82_uNoeVkQE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=643OKIZtY9w

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread viniciussm
E16 was a window manager. E17 is a half DE. I mean half as it is the first release to have the intention of being a DE, although they lack a lot of common apps (but the underlying software (libs etc) is ready already).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread Roeplay
Enlightenment is a window manager, not a full DE, and it's a counter-intuitive one at that. Avoid.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread Roeplay
You're certainly free to install LXDE and boot into that. But keeping the Mini edition to the same standard of stability as the main edition has always been a tall order for this project. It's always been riddled with bugs and oversights, in the versions I've tested.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread Roeplay
By Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, AMD might even jump on the bandwagon and offer fully libre 3D accelaration for their GPUs, too. That would seal the deal for us.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 Officially Out; yes- really this time!

2013-03-15 Thread chris
Debian won't include the firmware in its main repository or on the install CDs. It should go into a package with the carl9170 firmware eventually. Not sure what your asking. There is no need to return it. Your testing has helped. These are not exactly exspensive parts. It's the entire time th

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 Officially Out; yes- really this time!

2013-03-15 Thread chris
How do you normally receive postal mail? It varies from country to country although if they don't delivery daily you may get a call. There isn't any signature required. It should take about a week in theory although customs, slow/inefficient postal/etc could mean anything from a slight delay

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 Officially Out; yes- really this time!

2013-03-15 Thread magicbanana
Oh! OK. :-) Sorry for the confusion.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread magicbanana
All Intel chipsets and most nVidia cards handle 3D acceleration. Reasonably modern CPUs hardware can run GNOME Shell (the recent versions of it) with software rendering (thanks to llvmpipe) thanks to the work started more than one year ago for Fedora 17... and that has already reached the lat

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 Officially Out; yes- really this time!

2013-03-15 Thread chris
It will probably be a bit longer than I thought. There is more of a process than I realized. It *should pass* with flying colors though and they have been kept aware of the progress. I'm handing over some adapters tomorrow at the North East GNU/Linux Fest since John & Josh (from the FSF) will

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
No, even the magic keys do not work... It's really completely frozen.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread gustavo_cm
In this occasions, probably, you can reboot safely using the Magic SysRq key: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key (kudos to Lembas for pointing this out in another thread/topic).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 gets big press :)

2013-03-15 Thread andrew . roffey
On Slashdot a few days ago as well: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/03/13/006/trisquel-60-toutatis-is-now-available

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 Officially Out; yes- really this time!

2013-03-15 Thread myself600
You misunderstood me. I meant TP as ThinkPenguin, not as Trisquel Project. You probably heard about the FSF hardware certification program (you can find more details here) and these wireless USB adapters will also fall under this category (at least not officialy yet).

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
I do have patience, don't worry. Thanks for your time!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread tedious
Still looking through some comments on that page. It may take quite a few moments. :o (Working on stuff, and tons of comments) In the mean time, if anyone has any ideas, please post. Thanks for your patience with this, ptifred.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 Officially Out; yes- really this time!

2013-03-15 Thread myself600
Ok, I just sent you the address. I have a few last questions: When should I expect the package to arrive? How will I be contacted when the package arrive? Thank you again.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread alonivtsan
Xfce is a good choice if one is looking for a stable and basic desktop environment which can also provide eye candy via compiz (but it isn't integrated with Xfce's settings). If one also wants optional eye candy and a lightweight desktop environment, perhaps enlightenment/e17 would fit (alt

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
One more thing, now it's completely frozen, even the mouse. I could move the mouse the first time only. And nothing works, I have to do a hard reboot

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
No, that doesn't work... It froze after a few minutes.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread tedious
Can you get into a tty? (CTRL+ALT+F1-6, I think 6 works too..) This post seems to have a possible work around.[1] Could you try the steps listed, then attempt to run Celestia again? [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187/comments/14

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
Linux goebau-CM6870 3.8.2-gnu #1 SMP Mon Mar 4 12:38:14 PST 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux I did a search on different Linux and Ubuntu forums, and I'm not the only one in that case, and no solution. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187

Re: [Trisquel-users] Not getting the ability to upgrade

2013-03-15 Thread yoni
Thank you for pointing that out.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread tedious
Hmm.. Could you run the command below in the terminal and post the output? uname -a

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
Well, the issue is still there... I ran Celestai for just a few minutes and the computer froze again.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread Julius22
Le Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:05:05 +0100 (CET), roep...@lavabit.com a écrit : > Is LXDE really mature enough to be the main Trisquel DE, though? > > Like it or not, a genuinely lightweight desktop environment is > generally a recipe for a second-rate user experience. One uses LXDE > because she must. >

Re: [Trisquel-users] Idea: Xfce as classic DE for Trisquel 7?

2013-03-15 Thread Julius22
Le Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:27:10 +0100 (CET), roep...@lavabit.com a écrit : > Who's with me? > > Xfce can be configured to appear and function nearly identically to > the current DE, without much of a feature loss. > > Since Xfce is (relatively) lighter than GNOME classic, it would make > it easier

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
Ok, I'm back with a "normal" resolution, I'll let you know if the frozen screen happens again in the following days. Thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I get Exaile up-to-date

2013-03-15 Thread Dave Hunt
Yah, that will work, and is easier; should have read down before hitting that 'reply' key. LOL

Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I get Exaile up-to-date

2013-03-15 Thread Dave Hunt
I'd suggest going to exaile.org, and getting the sources tarball. There should be a text file, with dependences and such. Before building with the included 'Makefile', make sure you have the build dependencies, with sudo build-dep exaile Go back to the directory where you extracted the exaile

[Trisquel-users] Not getting the ability to upgrade

2013-03-15 Thread yoni
Hello, I'm using "http://archive.trisquel.info brigantia" as my repositories and I'm not getting the offer to upgrade to 6.0 from the GUI or the command line. Any help would be appreciated. $ sudo do-release-upgrade Checking for a new trisquel release No new release found

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
I've install the new kernel, but now my screen is stuck on a 800x600 resolution. I'm working on it...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Has mini less hardware support than standard?

2013-03-15 Thread tegskywalker
Is the 3.5 kernel not sufficient for the hardware you need? There is the lts-quantal kernel (3.5) in addition to the standard 3.2

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread mikko . viinamaki
:) Great minds think alike!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread tedious
According to this post[1], the Nouveau driver should work for that card. But on the 3.8 kernel, it seems that Trisquel 6.0 includes the 3.2 kernel[2]. Thanks for the links, lembas. I was about to ask someone to help with that. :p [1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI2NTI

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread mikko . viinamaki
That's a fairly new system all right. You might want to try a newer Linux-libre kernel. Here's the source if you wish to compile yourself www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/ Here are prebuilt binaries https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/update-linux-libre-kernel

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
Hi, here is the lspci result: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread mikko . viinamaki
What kind of hardware have you got? Open a terminal and input lspci

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
Hi, It's a NVIDIA Corporation GF119 (Geforce GT620)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread tedious
Welcome to the Trisquel forums! :D What kind of video card do you have?

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0: screen frozen

2013-03-15 Thread pecessix
Hi everyone, I've installed Trisquel 6.0 on my desktop computer. Everything worked fine during the installation and the updates. But yesterday, on two occasion, the screen was frozen. I could move the mouse, but couldn't clic anywhere, and there was nothing I could do except rebooting with

Re: [Trisquel-users] Difficulty compiling from source

2013-03-15 Thread ejectmail
It no longer matters, as I now have an Internet connection. But I really wish things weren't so error-prone without one.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fonts & Font rendering

2013-03-15 Thread mampir
In 6.0 the fonts settings are a bit different. Now I do: cd /etc/fonts/conf.d && sudo rm --verbose 01-trisquel.conf && sudo rm --verbose 59-droid-serif-fonts.conf && sudo rm --verbose 60-droid-sans-mono-fonts.conf && sudo rm --verbose 10-hinting-slight.conf && sudo ln --verbose --symbolic ../co

Re: [Trisquel-users] Latest three uodates broke my system

2013-03-15 Thread lfgtech
I used version 6.0 and when running update manager (gnome-session-bin, gnome-session-fallback, gnome-session-common) the taskbar also broke then blocked update them in synaptic.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Has mini less hardware support than standard?

2013-03-15 Thread magicbanana
Here is the documentation to update the Linux-libre kernel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I change the image loading?

2013-03-15 Thread magicbanana
You can also install some themes from the package manager. Just search "plymouth-theme".

[Trisquel-users] Latest three uodates broke my system

2013-03-15 Thread bruceperry
The last3 updates for Trisquel broke my system. I'm not sure how to report this, but essentially there were no icons available on the bottom bar. I was able to manuever to the system partially thrrugh some of the file icons on the desktop, and when I tried to remove those three updates that