Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread onpon4
I'd like to add that the logic used here would also work for justifying the legalization of slavery. You could say, We want workers to have the freedom to choose how they want to work, and that's why permitting people to sell themselves into slavery is the best way. (It's not the same, mind

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread davesamcdxv
Actually the GPL sin't focused on total (any better words?) freedom as it basically says Don't tell the world that it's your writing since it wasn't, and don't you dare to re-release a version of this software that is not *free* , while non-copyleft lincences simply say Don't tell the world

[Trisquel-users] Re : Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread magicbanana
* Enough protection is offered to be relatively sure you won't sue me if something goes wrong when you use my code. Using my code in proprietary software is something that goes wrong. And something permissive licenses do not protect from (by definition).

[Trisquel-users] Re : So is this true about AMD on Trisquel?

2014-07-03 Thread magicbanana
Radeon cards work on Trisquel. But because of the proprietary firmware you mentioned (and that remains proprietary until now), some features do not work. That includes 3D acceleration. If your computer has an Intel graphical chipset (the case for all Intel processors, for many years), you

Re: [Trisquel-users] So is this true about AMD on Trisquel?

2014-07-03 Thread os9junkie
Well then why the heck do they even celebrate these drivers like a win for GNU/Linux users? You can't even use them wihtout proprietary code! I don't understand supposed Linux enthusiasts writers that are doing this then... I mean if anything it'll get current Free software users to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread shiretoko
Not quite. Writing proprietary software is more like offering somebody to become a slave at free will. It's like raising the question: who wants to become my slave voluntarily?. It's similar but not the same like enslaving people directly since they are free to choose whether they want to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread onpon4
Exactly.

Re: [Trisquel-users] So is this true about AMD on Trisquel?

2014-07-03 Thread onpon4
That's just what not valuing freedom leads to. You've got people thinking it's fine because of where the proprietary firmware is being run, and it doesn't help that the main distribution of the kernel Linux includes these proprietary blobs. For example, one of the people responsible for the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread tegskywalker
Doesn't Apache 2.0 fix this?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread tegskywalker
I'm not Tom Preston-Wener, so therefore I didn't give the speech in question. Direct your anger towards him.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread tegskywalker
GPL gives total freedom to the user, but restricted freedom to the developer. Permissive gives total freedom to the user and developer, but then allows other developers to change the intention of the original developer by making proprietary or bundling it with other proprietary software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Chris from Think Penguin LAS interview in case you missed it

2014-07-03 Thread chris
This was only a small part of the interview. Unfortunately the choice of words in the beginning was poor, but it wouldn't have been so bad had they actually kept the part where I went into what free software was and how Linux Mint, Ubuntu, etc were not totally free. I was very conscious of

Re: [Trisquel-users] So is this true about AMD on Trisquel?

2014-07-03 Thread tobias
Some time ago when I did not care about freedom, I was using AMD CPUs. When I switched to Trisquel I realized that AMD does not want users to have freedom. AMD could easly solve the problem by burning the firmware into a ROM or hardwiring the command processor. I think releasing the source

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread onpon4
No, that's a permissive license. Incidentally, since this anti-GPL FUD includes complaints that the GPL is long, it doesn't work to support the Apache License, itself being lengthy.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread tobias
Some time ago I heard that github is not Open Source, so I decided to use gitorius insted which is copylefted free software under the AGPL. At this time I was a Mac User but I know that if something is not open source, it is certainly not free software. [RMS] When I browse github, I still

Re: [Trisquel-users] Unfortunatly I need to try to get flash player installed on triquel for an algebra course.

2014-07-03 Thread davesamcdxv
Whoops, should've known better about the linking part!

[Trisquel-users] Can't block a subdomain in /etc/hosts

2014-07-03 Thread contact
Hello guys, I have some problems blocking a facebook subdomain in /etc/hosts. I am able to block facebook.com but I cannot block a subdomain called ro-ro.facebook.com. I'm typing everything as I should but it just doesn't work, it's very weird. Did anyone met with this problem, with

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread legimet . calc
Freedom 0 means that you can use the program in whatever way you want, not that you can do whatever you want with it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] So is this true about AMD on Trisquel?

2014-07-03 Thread legimet . calc
I have a Replicant tablet with PowerVR. I really hope someone reverse engineers it. BTW, the Raspberry Pi's GPU blob was actually freed by Broadcom. :) https://libv.livejournal.com/26434.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] So is this true about AMD on Trisquel?

2014-07-03 Thread mtjm
At least the ME microcode for R600 (and probably earlier CP microcode) is simple code with separate instructions for reading or writing registers, Rob Clark of Freedreno partially reverse engineered the instruction format. Newer Radeons have different ISAs. (ME is microengine, CP is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Chris from Think Penguin LAS interview in case you missed it

2014-07-03 Thread franparpe
So, that is why I found it strange; they have cutted the interview. I think the other companies do not find funny what smaller competitors are doing to counter-attack their deceitful behavior (generalization). you where great on that interview Chris. Thank you for your consideration t3g.

[Trisquel-users] A question about Thinkpenguin's Data Storage Devices.

2014-07-03 Thread franparpe
Greetings ladies and gentlemen. I've been doing research about File Systems and I want to ask what File System type have, the Thinkpenguin's Storage Devices, by default. Thank you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about Thinkpenguin's Data Storage Devices.

2014-07-03 Thread legimet . calc
You can always reformat them, so it shouldn't really matter.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about Thinkpenguin's Data Storage Devices.

2014-07-03 Thread franparpe
Thank you for answer, but that was not what I was asking. I know I can always reformat the device, but I want to know the defaults from Thinkpenguin in order to have a reference for my learning.

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel GNU/Linux installs in legacy/CSM/BIOS (but not EFI) mode but does NOT boot.

2014-07-03 Thread omidlink+trisquel
Hello Trisquel GNU/Linux community, I'm in the process of liberating a new laptop (Asus X451) from Windows 8. (Just in case this may help someone later, the WiFi chip in this computer is by Atheros and works with Linux-libre kernel). The computer in question has (U)EFI but allows the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Blag Gnu and Linux

2014-07-03 Thread mennblack
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread gramex
I looked at choosealicense.com, and found out that this page uses the word content that one should avoid. Another reason to avoid using the site is that it leaves No license on the table as a legitimate option. If you send people to choosealicense.com, they may decide to go the no license

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread adrian . malacoda
Tom Preston-Warner represents the open source world. In the open source world, open source code exists so that proprietary software developers can build their proprietary software on top of collaboratively maintained libraries and frameworks. That's why his mantra is open source almost

Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about Thinkpenguin's Data Storage Devices.

2014-07-03 Thread chris
The USB drives are always formatted to fat32. The problem with other formats is one of compatibility, licensing, and/or permissions.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Chris from Think Penguin LAS interview in case you missed it

2014-07-03 Thread chris
Posted it to the ThinkPenguin blog: http://thinkpenguin.com/blog

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread adel . afzal
great post http://tom.preston-werner.com/2011/11/22/open-source-everything.html Have you ever written an amazing library or tool at one job and then left to join another company only to rewrite that code or remain miserable in its absence? [...] By getting code out in the public we can

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why the GPL doesnt focus on freedom keynote from OSCON

2014-07-03 Thread davesamcdxv
Yeah but I think the the former is sometimes a bit too synonymous with the latter.