Re: [Trisquel-users] Update Manager Not Working

2014-09-04 Thread mikko . viinamaki
This kind of problems are fairly nasty as I believe they lead to chicken and egg kind of situations: if the update manager is broken, no update can fix it as those can't be installed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread debianlinux
BBC Horizon 2014-2015 Episode 4: Inside the Dark Web https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTjNkbLBEqg Terms and Conditions May Apply (pre snowden) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2084953/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ruben's talk won't be available via livestream but instead recorded and uploaded.

2014-09-04 Thread shiretoko
You know, I really can understand that the upload of the video gets delayed for some kind of reasons, but why in the world is it so hard to drop a little note in this forum or in the blog or somewhere else, like video takes another two weeks, sorry?? Why is this so hard? I have no

Re: [Trisquel-users] install a full Trisquel on a USB flash drive

2014-09-04 Thread hosh
many people have been using the live-usb method for years, with distributions like Puppy Linux. I have not had a usb wear out or become unusable so far. I was thinking to try Trisquel using this method, but according to Chris, this is not practical, both in terms of speed and in terms of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Update Manager Not Working

2014-09-04 Thread sv . tony
The fixes reported on this thread work once but then you always have to do it that way because the Update Manager has never gone back to normal for me. If I start the Update Manager, I get the same screen boaz was showing above.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-04 Thread magicbanana
As far as I remember, GRUB lists all installed kernels. On Trisquel, the menu is hidden by default and the first (and normally most recent) kernel is booted. That is unless the system was not properly shutdown. To always see the menu, you must change, in /etc/default/grub (with, e.g.,

[Trisquel-users] Re : Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-04 Thread magicbanana
Physically removing the nVidia cards from desktop computers is not hard and not putting money into them. I keep on thinking it is the best solution. You would only want to check first whether 'lspci' indicates that there is a VGA compatible controller inside the Intel processor. You probably

[Trisquel-users] Re : Compilation terminates, likely due to missing library

2014-09-04 Thread magicbanana
Have you installed libboost-system1.48.0, libboost-filesystem1.48.0, libboost-program-options1.48.0 and libboost-thread1.48.0?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Allow switching between kernels in GRUB

2014-09-04 Thread onpon4
I investigated this, and it seems what you want to do to make GRUB always show up is unset GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET (by commenting out the lines that set them).

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread gnuser
Just watched it, not bad. Nothing totally new and amazing, but interesting.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-04 Thread gnuser
Well, I think we scared Lep away :P Maybe we diverted from the original thread subject. I think one good place for you to start would be reading the documentation on BackTrack Linux. I am not suggesting you use the distro (which is probably non-free) but just read the documentation, they

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-04 Thread gnuser
These are unknown waters for me. One question: if a device (keyboard or wifi card or webcam) has software (firmware) written inside of it to be able to work, but that firmware doesn't talk to the OS (only the driver makes the connection between computer and device, OS and device) then we

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread riftyful
Well, what if someone does smoke, but they do not mind their health being endangered at all? Sure, that does not make smoking good - I suppose that over the time people set a common standard that damaging one's health is bad, so this can apply here. But is it incorrect or unethical? Let's

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread riftyful
I am pretty sure slavery is worse than proprietary software, seeing as slaves could not stop being slaves and move to freedom. But I don't mean to martinet, just making sure this is a loose comparison. Now then, if someone makes the choice to be a slave and they happy with the way they are

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from a new user

2014-09-04 Thread nux
Greetings and welcome.

[Trisquel-users] Hello from a new user

2014-09-04 Thread tombates70
I'm a new user and just wanted to say hello to the forum members. I installed Trisquel a couple of days ago and my distro-hopping is now over. Finally, I've found a place, where forum members say GNU/Linux instead of linux, Free and/or Libre Software instead of open source and where people

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread nux
But they're not just limiting their own freedom, they're limiting everyone elses too. They are saying, effectively, it's OK to publish proprietary software and it's OK to limit people's use and freedom through it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compilation terminates, likely due to missing library

2014-09-04 Thread LDrumbler
Yes to all.

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread onpon4
riftyful said: But I don't mean to martinet, just making sure this is a loose comparison. It is. But regarding being able to move to freedom, oftentimes slaves could ostensibly move to freedom, e.g. by paying their owners. It just didn't work like that in practice. Though not quite to

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread onpon4
riftyful said: Now then, if someone makes the choice to be a slave and they happy with the way they are treated, is that wrong? If a person enslaves someone who wishes to be enslaved and is completely okay with it, and they do not force that upon other people, what is wrong with that?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freeslack (a little off topic)

2014-09-04 Thread onpon4
Is it really any better than Dragora? I know that both Slackware and Dragora follow the KISS principle. I've never tried them, though, because KISS seems to be a bad choice for me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freeslack (a little off topic)

2014-09-04 Thread nux
Dragora is brutal. Even more so than Slackware. I got as far as getting everything working on Dragora, except my printer - couldn't find half of what I needed to compile drivers. But the above instructions are for taking a vanilla Slackware install and then cleaning it up. So you get

Re: [Trisquel-users] Install TOR Browser

2014-09-04 Thread santiago . lorente
Did it! The download worked now and could followed libredrs recommendations. Thank you all!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Systemd

2014-09-04 Thread nux
Got sent a link to this today. From Mr Poettering's blog. We want a unified solution that ultimately can cover updates for full systems, OS containers, end user apps, programming ABIs, and more. These updates shall be double-buffered, (at least). This is an absolute necessity if we want to

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread shiretoko
If we compare proprietary software to slavery, D/s is more like choosing not to assert control over a libre program than choosing to use a proprietary program. Well, according to your statement about D/s It's just someone choosing to submit to someone else and taking on the title slave.

[Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies

2014-09-04 Thread oxdeanxo
I am having the absoulte hardest time installing Libreboot on my Thinkpad X60s. I must be missing something. I downloaded the source and binaries from here: http://libreboot.org/docs/release.html#release5 , and I'm trying to follow the guildlines here: http://libreboot.org/docs/index.html .

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from a new user

2014-09-04 Thread chris
Hi! And Welcome!

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread onpon4
To clarify, I don't think slavery is in general similar to proprietary software. I just think some aspects of it are comparable.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies

2014-09-04 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Have you got the build-essential package installed?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Update Manager Not Working

2014-09-04 Thread anthonypineiro
Now a problem with the update manager! These type of problems will lead people away from Trisquel. Lately this been an on going issue with updates including this recently https://trisquel.info/en/forum/where-are-all-security-updates I'm a patient person but this is starting to get

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread shiretoko
But what if you need Microsoft Office, and LibreOffice can't suit your needs? You're mixing up things. Offering choices is not the same as using the whip, i.e. actively holding somebody back. You describe a slave owner, telling his slave: you are free to go, but then I won't give you food

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from a new user

2014-09-04 Thread debianlinux
welcome!!

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread onpon4
I think you misunderstood my mention of whipping. I didn't say that it was in any way connected to leaving, and I didn't mean to imply that either. Whipping is sometimes a BDSM activity that people choose to partake in. Slaves don't have a choice in the matter; if their owner decides to whip

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies

2014-09-04 Thread Michał Masłowski
That documentation refers to release 6, beta 6. Older versions have different scripts. Do you have tools for recovery if your build fails to boot? pgpWnQbu7pOlW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies

2014-09-04 Thread oxdeanxo
Do you think it would just be easier to use release 6? I forgot to mention that I was trying to use release 5. No, I don't have any recovery tools. What should I be using for that?

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread shiretoko
I'm not sure what you mean here. LibreOffice wasn't offered by Microsoft as an alternative. Microsoft only developed Microsoft Office. No, you got me wrong. I argued that proprietary software resembles D/s more than slavery because - instead of real slavery - it doesn't prevent people from

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread ashok . biollay
Just a question : Are there ethical arguments that justify to use proprietary softwares rather than free softwares ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies

2014-09-04 Thread oxdeanxo
No, I don't know what that is.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Compilation terminates, likely due to missing library

2014-09-04 Thread magicbanana
For some reasons, it looks like the linker is searching for the versions 1.53 of those libraries.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Update Manager Not Working

2014-09-04 Thread magicbanana
Do *you* have a problem with Update Manager or do you only want to rant? SVTony had a problem but it is not like everybody had. And if you would look at the forums of essentially any distribution, you would find some users having such problems.

[Trisquel-users] Re : When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread magicbanana
I do not think that using proprietary software (with no interaction with other user) is unethical. Developing such software definitely is. It however is sad that users of proprietary software do not seem to value their own freedoms.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from a new user

2014-09-04 Thread jabjabs
Welcome and take a look around, this place is fairly active which is always nice. And don't worry people using open source and Linux would get a kind reminder about what the terminology means - not that I have seen it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread jabjabs
About the closest I can think of is the use of LGPL in software, where as Free software can be distributed simply as a binary in a proprietary program. Even then this is merely a compromise because the additional software isn't Free. The big issue is that the only distinction between

Re: [Trisquel-users] Update Manager Not Working

2014-09-04 Thread christian
I have also experienced this issue for some updates in the past month or so, and have had to use apt-get dist-upgrade from the terminal and reboot when it happens.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Update Manager Not Working

2014-09-04 Thread anthonypineiro
Have better things to do with my time then rant. Yes *I* do have this same problem. I also have that freedom to state my option. Again this is very irritating.

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread Andrew Roffey
It's just someone choosing to submit to someone else and taking on the title slave. Because it's not actual slavery, you can back out and otherwise assert your right to freedom. proprietary software fits perfectly to this description. You _can_ back out of the slavery of a proprietary

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from a new user

2014-09-04 Thread franparpe
Welcome to the Trisquel community.

Re: [Trisquel-users] When is proprietary software bad?

2014-09-04 Thread onpon4
That's not slavery at all. It sounds to me like dependence on a commune. The problem with that comparison, though, is proprietary software creates dependence; dependence on a commune for food is caused by nature, not people, so a question of ethics isn't raised. The difficulties of escaping

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compilation terminates, likely due to missing library

2014-09-04 Thread gramex
This is a bit off topic, but why are you interested in CAPTcoin? I don't know much about it, but it may be a scam. (I don't trust Bitcoin forks too much...)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from a new user

2014-09-04 Thread anthonypineiro
Welcome to trisquelgnulinux! Glad you found a great community.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Diaspora*

2014-09-04 Thread taknamay
Diaspora: coldbloodedfirelizard at diasp dot org I don't know if you use pump.io, but I will share that too. pump.io: coldbloodedfirelizard at pumpbuddy dot us

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compilation terminates, likely due to missing library

2014-09-04 Thread legimet . calc
That's not the only issue. Boost compiled for different platforms has different names. This project's makefile or whatever is trying to link to the Boost library for MinGW (mgw). If you just change the linker flags, it should be fine.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Diaspora*

2014-09-04 Thread Andrew Roffey
blade.vp2020 wrote: hi Are Here Any person Have an account on Diaspora*?? I'm not on Diaspora yet, but I might check it out if I get spare time, especially if there are free software advocates on there. I'm on pump.io which is also used by free software advocates. Pump.io is another federated

Re: [Trisquel-users] finding particular pages within PDFs

2014-09-04 Thread adel . afzal
I get an error message at the end of the run, and there doesn't seem to be a matches file in my working folder. Maybe 500+ megs of PDFs is too much. I did a few test runs with a few 10-15 page PDFs, and that seemed to work. I/O Error: Couldn't open file '/tmp/pdf-page-grep.PHgWDa-1022': Too

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello from a new user

2014-09-04 Thread gnufreeme
WOOT!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Compilation terminates, likely due to missing library

2014-09-04 Thread LDrumbler
I'm sorry, how do I change the linker flags?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Munich gives up on GNU/Linux and free/open source software

2014-09-04 Thread a1716479
My point was features-convenience do not conflict with freedom-power, if the constraining elements of closed source are removed, and solely the functionality is achieved. The two are not mutually exclusive. I'm not ignoring the trend, which is obvious. My point is these things

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies

2014-09-04 Thread mikko . viinamaki
It's a collection of thing you need for building things, you should install it if you're going to compile stuff.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freeslack (a little off topic)

2014-09-04 Thread gnufreeme
I suppose this is so people can run a free version based on Slackware without the far more difficult route of a proper fork. As Rubén can attest, there is a lot of work completely freeing a distro. For example, I doubt all references to non-free software are removed from the packages of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Diaspora*

2014-09-04 Thread Ivaylo Valkov
В 01:57 +0200 на 04.09.2014 (чт), [nos...@spam.yourself.inste.ad] написа: hi Are Here Any person Have an account on Diaspora*?? I'm not on Diaspora* yet, but it is in my TODO list as part of a grander scheme. Don't know when it will happen You can find me on pump.io: valkov at identi dot ca.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies

2014-09-04 Thread oxdeanxo
Build-essential was apparently already installed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies

2014-09-04 Thread oxdeanxo
Alright, that definitely helped. Now i'm stuck on the How to build flashrom section. Specifically this part: After you've done that, under ./flashrom/ you will find the following executables: flashrom For flashing while coreboot or libreboot is running.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Diaspora*

2014-09-04 Thread Ivan Antipenko
ak...@soical.feder8.ru - it's Friendica instance (Friendia can act as Diaspora* pod too) On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 01:57 +0200, blade.vp2...@gmail.com wrote: hi Are Here Any person Have an account on Diaspora*?? -- Happy hacking! Ivan Antipenko aka akfio www: https://blog.akifo.pw xmpp: