Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread nicolasmaia
Hi there! Sort of unrelated question: how is the performance on your laptop with libreboot?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help needed - Cannot log in trisquel after external harddisk not ejected properly

2015-10-03 Thread devtaporia
Just to confirm, you mean just executing 'rm -rf .config && mv .config.bck .config' and continuing to reconfigure as per normal use..? Just to add, i also had a problem of not being able to graphically see my hard disk partitions (but able to see them being filled in system settings). I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Acquiring a new laptop.

2015-10-03 Thread mcz
Hi, I've read that for video editing (and/or 3D rendering), it's much better to start at 16 GiB of ram instead. 8 is possible, but might be not enough for heavy duty editing. For gaming, I suppose 8 Gib of ram is enough though. Also you'd need a strong CPU chip. I mean the strongest, the

[Trisquel-users] Re : some problem after fresh install with Full Disk Encryption

2015-10-03 Thread lcerf
See https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/full-disk-encryption-install Isn't the necessary passphrase to decrypt the drive at every boot the very reason to choose a full disk (rather than only a /home) encryption? As for the speech dispatcher, you deactivated it from the "Accessibility" utility in

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-10-03 Thread albin
pizzaiolo asked in a different thread how I experience running Trisquel 7 on my Macbook2,1 with libreboot version 20150518. In general, it works pretty well. The following items are things that might be interesting for other users: I installed libreboot 20150518 using a prebuilt rom.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Taurinus X200 laptop now FSF-certified to respect your freedom

2015-10-03 Thread onpon4
> Or just buy a Thinkpad second-hand and Libreboot it yourself. Not any ThinkPad, only the X60, X60s, X60 Tablet, X200, R400, R500, T400, and T500. And there's also the MacBook 1.1 or MacBook 2.1. For clarity, it's likely never going to be possible to get a newer computer than the X200 to

[Trisquel-users] Acquiring a new laptop.

2015-10-03 Thread franparpe
Greetings ladies and gentlemen: I want to buy a laptop. I want it to be capable of running Doom 3, Xonotic, The Darkmod, etc... on high settings. I also want it to be able to edit videos (is 8 ram enough?). Can any of the libreboot laptops fulfill with that? If so which, which one would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Acquiring a new laptop.

2015-10-03 Thread jason
I don't think you want a laptop for editing video. This is a very CPU intensive process. Plus, uncompressed video is huge and you'll need a lot of storage. For libreboot-supported machines look at the ASUS KFSN4-DRE. Dual hex core CPUs and 64GB of RAM should be enough for such a task. :)

[Trisquel-users] Re : LibreOffice: from repos or their own website?

2015-10-03 Thread lcerf
LibreOffice is copylefted, whereas OpenOffice is distributed under a permissive license. So, yes, it is a licensing "issue". Apache is far from dead! But Apache OpenOffice really is. There used to be some IBM developers working on it (because IBM has Symphony, which is proprietary software

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with resolution in Live DVD

2015-10-03 Thread greatgnu
>See https://trisquel.info/forum/screen-resolution-0 (you can apparently get the correct resolution with a 3.11 kernel). Yeah, DON'T! It has ended support in 2013!!

[Trisquel-users] Re : Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread lcerf
Well, newer kernels mean less tested kernels, i.e., there is a higher probability to face stability issues.

[Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread albin
Hi! I've just installed the latest linux-libre kernel (4.2.2) in Trisquel 7 (from jxself.org), to replace the 3.16 version that's available in the official repos. I haven't experienced any improvements or regressions but I wonder if the upgrade was a good idea or not. In particular I wonder

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread jason
Pros? You get support for newer hardware. Someone with Skylake for example will need 4.2. Your Macbook is already well-supported by the Trisquel kernel though. Another pro? Newer kernels bring interesting new features for programs to use. But if your hardware is already well supported

Re: [Trisquel-users] Acquiring a new laptop.

2015-10-03 Thread onpon4
My guess is you're going to be stuck with medium settings for game graphics, unless you're willing to experience really choppy gameplay (low FPS).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Acquiring a new laptop.

2015-10-03 Thread franparpe
Thank you very much "hack and hack" and "onpon4". I will wait for more comments, I really wish someone who have tried them could share with us his/her experiences. I also have the option to buy from thinkpenguin but having a 100% free as in freedom computer is very tempting...

[Trisquel-users] Re : Help needed - Cannot log in trisquel after external harddisk not ejected properly

2015-10-03 Thread lcerf
You can graphically log into your user account, can't you? Some applications came back to their default configuration, right? Then, reconfigure them as you wish and your are good to go. You can even remove the backup, ~/.config.bck, that takes a little space in your home directory for

Re: [Trisquel-users] Acquiring a new laptop.

2015-10-03 Thread franparpe
Thank you jxself. With the feedback all of you gave me, I will not use a laptop for my video editing, I will use the motherboard jxself recommended at the given time. I still want to know if libreboot laptops are able to handle Xonotic, Doom 3 and The Darkmod with relative fluidity, did

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modernizing the Trisquel forums

2015-10-03 Thread superbyelich
It works great for me! :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-10-03 Thread albin
I just tried but it didn't work. One possibility would be to map it to a key, like left click + ctrl = middle click. I don't know how to do that though.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-10-03 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Try it after thissynclient RTCornerButton=2

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread tegskywalker
The nice thing about the 4.2 kernel is that all of the features of the Xbox 360 and Xbox One controllers work (rumble and LED support) via wired or wireless thanks to a patch that Valve pushed upstream. If you are a gamer, this is a great feature.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread jason
On the contrary - The kernel named Linux gets extensive testing prior to release via a variety of methods and people. It is stable on release.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Acquiring a new laptop.

2015-10-03 Thread calinou
The only fully supported graphics hardware is from Intel, and it's integrated, so it's much slower than a dedicated graphics card that would be fully supported (Nouveau still can't reclock any Fermi or Kepler graphics cards). Even the best Broadwell Intel IGP, without the proprietary

[Trisquel-users] Re : Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread calinou
Skylake graphics need a proprietary blob to be fully usable.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread albin
pizzaiolo: I know about the guide; I made a few changes to it yesterday. By the way, I answered you question in the other thread. jxself: Another pro? Newer kernels bring interesting new features for programs to use. But if your hardware is already well supported and you don't want/need/use

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modernizing the Trisquel forums

2015-10-03 Thread Dave Hunt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, that makes sense, or, allow markdown, with a link to a syntax guide, like mediagoblin does. On 10/03/2015 02:52 PM, al...@fripost.org wrote: > One change that I would like to see is a syntax box or page where > you can see what HTML elements can

[Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread tegskywalker
http://tech.slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view=story=15/10/02/1525244 https://github.com/jonsneyers/FLIF/issues/3 It is interesting that this person went with a GPL license for a library/codec when he/she could have gone with maybe the LGPL or MPL or maybe Apache/BSD/MIT if they want to follow

Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreOffice: from repos or their own website?

2015-10-03 Thread dilillo . agostino
repo forever PS openoffice is an almost dead project

[Trisquel-users] Re : Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread lcerf
What are Greg Kroah-Hartman's stable kernels for if not for stability?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread jason
You were talking of stability issues. Stability issues are (to me) along the lines of kernel panics and the like. These should be exceedingly rare in released versions due to the extensive testing that goes on during development. Maybe you didn't mean stability issues? :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modernizing the Trisquel forums

2015-10-03 Thread albin
Only some HTML can be used for post formatting One change that I would like to see is a syntax box or page where you can see what HTML elements can be used. For the quote below, for example, I had to use the "code" element instead of "blockquote". Personally I don't care at all about

Re: [Trisquel-users] WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!

2015-10-03 Thread greatgnu
I couldn't help but reply to this, I still find supertramp suspicious glad to hear that :) because the fact is he doesn't even use trisquel, true. I use and like more for several reasons my Debian libre installation :) Hes never used it for more then a few months. It was my main setup form

Re: [Trisquel-users] Midori won't open some websites because of security certificate problems

2015-10-03 Thread rhutter
Coming back to the original problem: At some websites i get the message already quoted in the Midori FAQ: Error granting trust: Couldn't find a place to store the imported certificate pkcs11:library-description=PKCS%2311%20Kit%20Trust%20Module As the FAQ says it could have to do with file

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread jason
We seem to be talking of different things here. Not all problems result in stability issues (i.e. a kernel panic that brings the entire system down.) That to me is a stability issue. Otherwise it is not a stability issue but something else - some other form of bug.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-10-03 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
> I haven't yet found a way to do middle clicking yet which is annoying. Have you tried clicking the right top corner of your touchpad?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread jason
AppArmor still works.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Taurinus X200 laptop now FSF-certified to respect your freedom

2015-10-03 Thread greatgnu
> 2. a laptop that has more than just Libreboot, I want a fully free machine Wait no longer! They already exist. As I said, Minifree/Libiquity. They even have low-level nasty things from Intel removed, like the Intel Active Management Engine. I'm pretty sure Gnuser is aware of the "low-level

[Trisquel-users] would anyone know of any online classes that i could learn more about linux?

2015-10-03 Thread calmstorm
I am thinking about learning how to make games and stuff, but i would want to learn how to do it the libre way for free. Does anyone know of any recommended sites?

[Trisquel-users] Re : Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread lcerf
This is only true to some extent. Otherwise what are Greg Kroah-Hartman's stable kernels for?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with resolution in Live DVD

2015-10-03 Thread jason
If 3.4 solves the problem please let me know and I will add it to my public APT repository at https://jxself.org/linux-libre/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Acquiring a new laptop.

2015-10-03 Thread onpon4
I used to play Xonotic on a very cheap laptop from 2007 which has a Celeron processor. It worked fine as long as the settings weren't too high. I can't imagine a much higher-end laptop from around that time not being able to do at least decently with it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modernizing the Trisquel forums

2015-10-03 Thread Dave Hunt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We could, but we are neither, and this forum works well as-is. Voting to leave it alone, Dave On 10/03/2015 01:01 PM, cali...@opmbx.org wrote: > Eventually, maybe redesign the whole site to look more modern and > responsive. We could take

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-10-03 Thread albin
Thanks, but it didn't work. The parameter is set but nothing happens. Tapping at the bottom-right corner gives me right click though.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread onpon4
Hey, I know that guy! He's one of the people in the OpenPandora community who care about freedom rather than just "open source". Quite a loud libre software supporting voice there. Anyway: FLIF is an alternative for widely used non-patented, non-secret formats like PNG and JPEG. So really,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modernizing the Trisquel forums

2015-10-03 Thread rhutter
Technical issues aside - different categories in the forum would be useful. This place is getting more crowded and so some structure would be good. A way to mark a topic as solved would also be good.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread jason
I've been talking to Bob at ThinkPenguin about that since the start of September and found that 3D accelerated graphics on Skylake works with the Linux-libre kernel, but they are degraded to the performance of 3rd / 4th gen graphics. Skylake is a step backwards, but it is not as bad as

[Trisquel-users] Modernizing the Trisquel forums

2015-10-03 Thread calinou
The Trisquel forum has served for several years already, using some Drupal forum module. However, it has many issues: It is not responsive, meaning you can't read posts well on a smartphone or a tablet (unless you are constantly zooming, and trying to touch small buttons). Only some

[Trisquel-users] Encrypt home directory after install

2015-10-03 Thread abjectio
Hi, My main trisquel installation is now 1 year and counting. Like it a lot and it serve me well. However, I did not encrypt my home directory during installation and have decided to add the encryption now. Any advice how I do this without re-installing or destroying my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does Anyone Know How to Map a Network Drive in Trisquel?

2015-10-03 Thread davidpgil
Alright, after making sure SSH was working properly between all of my computers, I decided I should try a SFTP approach. WAY WASIER and more familiar for me. I followed the steps here and got it working very easily:

[Trisquel-users] Re : Does Anyone Know How to Map a Network Drive in Trisquel?

2015-10-03 Thread lcerf
You mean the system is a GNU/Linux system: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html The name does matter: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread jason
Yes, note I didn't say kernel panics don't happen but they are rare. Most of the stuff that is submitted are not fixes for things that will crash the system and so aren't "stability issues" but other types of bugs (performance bugs, security bugs, etc.)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modernizing the Trisquel forums

2015-10-03 Thread cd1207
> "Using a mailing list makes the posts as quickly accessible as one's email provider can muster. I find that to be plenty responsive." That's not what responsive means. He is referring to responsive design. > "prioritizing access via a computer that is not a free software device (a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does Anyone Know How to Map a Network Drive in Trisquel?

2015-10-03 Thread davidpgil
Yes, I am aware of this. Love "Saint" Richard Stallman. ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modernizing the Trisquel forums

2015-10-03 Thread strypey
The mobile support problem could be solved by a carefully planned transition to Drupal 8: https://www.drupal.org/drupal-8.0/features#mobile Drupal 8 will presumably be released sometime next year (first beta was just released), in which case most maintained modules should be compatible by

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread onpon4
Copyleft doesn't spread to other programs that happen to be installed on the same system. Android doesn't prevent libre programs from running on it. As for the rest, you're just saying that a bunch of proprietary programs can't use FLIF if it's under the GNU GPL. True, but you're entirely

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread tegskywalker
Due to him favoring ideology, - Cannot be used in the majority of web browsers. - Cannot be used in the majority of photo viewers. - Cannot be used in the majority of photo editors. - Cannot be used in phones, tablets, and cameras. - Cannot be used in TVs and dedicated media hardware. There's a

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread onpon4
> Cannot be used in the majority of web browsers. Define "majority". All of the libre Web browsers I'm aware of are under GPL-compatible licenses. Firefox's compatibility is indirect, but all Mozilla would have to do to be able to use FLIF, assuming it stays under the GPL, is dual-license

Re: [Trisquel-users] Encrypt home directory after install

2015-10-03 Thread abjectio
Found the solution : 1) ecryptfs-migrate-home -u Encrypting /home 2) login as the This to finish off the migration of /home 3) ecryptfs-setup-swap To encrypt the swap 4) delete or backup a temporary directory created /home/. 5)as user run : ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase To record a randomly

Re: [Trisquel-users] Simple Evolution Setup Q

2015-10-03 Thread john_harvey
Magic, comcast did indeed come through finally, it just took a while. Thank you for the heads up, and thanks all. - Zem

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modernizing the Trisquel forums

2015-10-03 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
The Trisquel forum has served for several years already, using some Drupal forum module. However, it has many issues: Using a mailing list makes the posts as quickly accessible as one's email provider can muster. I find that to be plenty responsive. Don't downplay the email aspect for

Re: [Trisquel-users] Twister

2015-10-03 Thread strypey
I haven't tried Twister yet, for the same reason as OP, but I do like that it's architecture is P2P (based on the blockchain concept), instead of server/client like GNU Social/ StatusNet/ Pump.io etc.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Helping new users choose application software

2015-10-03 Thread strypey
OK, so you endorse my proposed three category rating system, but propose reducing the number of GUI interfaces to maintain. I believe that AR/A and Synaptic should have quite different purposes. In my original proposal, AR/A would only offer end-user applications, although I agree this would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread nicolasmaia
Is the firmware in these controllers free?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread cd1207
I'm pretty sure it's permanent.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Helping new users choose application software

2015-10-03 Thread cd1207
You are brave for posting this. I have felt this way for a long time, but as you can see there are too many people here who already know how to use GNU and want everyone else to learn it in the same way they did or at least to the extent that they did. And so, you've been getting a lot of

Re: [Trisquel-users] GRUB issues

2015-10-03 Thread strypey
I tried running boot-repair, which has always worked for me in the past with my Aspire One. This time, it was a mistake. When I boot up the laptop, I am presented with a GRUB shell. I looked for instructions on how to use this shell to repair my system, and tried a few commands, but no luck.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Midori won't open some websites because of security certificate problems

2015-10-03 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
It's in your home folder, if you happen to have one. Do you have the mlocate package installed?

[Trisquel-users] Re : Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread lcerf
We are talking about the same thing. The third digit in Linux versions is incremented when Greg Kroah-Hartman releases more stable versions of Linux. That includes fixes to kernel panics. See for instance the release announcement for Linux 4.1.10 that "fix[es] panic in

[Trisquel-users] FSF 30th Birthday Party

2015-10-03 Thread jason
If you missed the live stream I captured it. Some things to note: The audio drops out for a while but does return later. As a result you miss some of what John is saying. Also, the audio & video seem to be out of sync but I overlooked this by not watching the speaker's mouths. Finally, the

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread tegskywalker
1.) Majority as in Internet Explorer/Edge, Google Chrome, Safari, and Opera. All are under closed sources licenses that would make them GPL if they included this. The only exception would be Firefox, which is under the GPL friendly MPL 2.0. 2.) I'm talking about photo viewers in Windows

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF 30th Birthday Party

2015-10-03 Thread nicolasmaia
I agree with that comment a 100%. (By the way, are you on Diaspora or GNU social? I want to hear more from you!)

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF 30th Birthday Party

2015-10-03 Thread albin
It's a crucially important thing that RMS emphasises in this speech. The work of the free software movement has changed character and become more difficult because it can no longer be mainly focused on building software replacements that people can use in freedom (GNU's Not Unix), but must

[Trisquel-users] Re : Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread lcerf
I know that not all bugs in the kernel crash it. Anyway Greg Kroah-Hartman's kernels are called "*stable* kernels" for a reason. And the reason is they solve stability issues that were present in the original release. Including bugs causing the kernel to crash. Those bugs obviously rarely

Re: [Trisquel-users] FLIF may be dead on arrival due to GPL license

2015-10-03 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Due to him favoring ideology, - Cannot be used in the majority of [...] As far as I know nobody is stopping any proprietor from implementing support for FLIF by writing their own code. To the extent FLIF provides better technical capabilities to PNG, FLIF provides an interesting

Re: [Trisquel-users] Encrypt home directory after install

2015-10-03 Thread strypey
This is very useful, thanks so much for posting your solution. I like the idea of encrypting my /home in a production system, but I don't really like doing it when I install, because if something goes wrong with the new install, the encrypted /home makes it tricky to use a live disc to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Using the latest linux-libre -- pros and cons

2015-10-03 Thread jason
"You cannot deny them." I'm not trying to, only pointing out that they're rare which you admit to (most people not seeing them.) So it can be considered stable on release. That does not meant free of bugs (and most bugs filed against the kernel are not of the system halting variety anyway)

[Trisquel-users] some problem after fresh install with Full Disk Encryption

2015-10-03 Thread thl
Hello, Yesterday I installed Trisquel with Full Disk Encryption onto my new X200, which I got at minifree, with libreboot on it. I installed it with the graphical installer, since I didn't succeed with the text installer. There are some questions: 1) What exactly is the advantage in using

Re: [Trisquel-users] Back to Trisquel 7, need some help

2015-10-03 Thread moxalt
Except for the fact that (for me, at least) GRUB never installs correctly when I install it off USB- either in Debian or Trisquel. It always seems to either write to the USB itself, or to some non-device, even when I manually specify /dev/sda. So I always install from USB, but I like to keep a

Re: [Trisquel-users] WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!

2015-10-03 Thread moxalt
> Its bad examples like yours that drive people away from the free software > movement. No. That would be the holier-than-thou attitude exhibited by people like you. Welcome back, btw.