[Trisquel-users] Re : Error while trying to update trisquel 7 to trisquel 8 : Could not calculate the upgrade

2019-09-18 Thread silver
Hi I still have issue to update to trisquel with same error. Here error I got: Preparing to unpack .../base-files_1%3a9.4ubuntu4.2+8.0trisquel1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking base-files (1:9.4ubuntu4.2+8.0trisquel1) over (1:7.2ubuntu5+7.0trisquel3) ... dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread Caleb Herbert
What a clear-headed gentleman. Jason Self for President! <>

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 09/18/2019 07:37 AM, d...@trudgian.net wrote: > I will also be leaving Trisquel at this point. This thread is playing > out in a similar way to the Purism ones, with it being inferred that > anyone not in the majority position on this forum hasn't read the source > material etc. If the goal is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread jason
Fortunately his latest one there shows he is growing as a person. "I am grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why."

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread kopolee11
> I take back what I said of hate propaganda. You were just recollecting RMS's messages up to the most recent one. Thank you for retracting your statement. I regret that the message is so long, but I purposely wanted to be as comprehensive and fair as I could in answering the question.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 18/9/19 a les 15:22, kopole...@riseup.net ha escrit: >>  That is hate propaganda. > > No, I was merely answering J.B. Nicholson-Owens question namely: "but > I'd like to know if anyone here has any idea what they're referring to?" > > I merely gave a verbatim list of Stallman's statements on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 18/9/19 a les 11:35, Ignacio Agulló ha escrit: > > The way I see it, you are lost from the very moment you try to > defend someone's innocence - haters will inevitably profit from the > occasion to claim everybody is guilty, even you who did nothing more to > try to defend someone's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 18/09/19 15:22, wrote: > I even included Stallman's most recent statement, which importantly > only came four days ago, a day after the Vice and Daily Dot stories > were originally published. I reckon you did. But for the most of people don't bother to read to the end of such a long text

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread David Trudgian
> What are you going to do, stop using Free Software altogether? Like "I > don't use it because RMS said mean things"? Makes no sense. But to > each his own. Although I supported the FSF moving forward with a new president this is not why I am leaving Trisquel, and I did not say that. I know that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread kopolee11
> That is hate propaganda. No, I was merely answering J.B. Nicholson-Owens question namely: "but I'd like to know if anyone here has any idea what they're referring to?" I merely gave a verbatim list of Stallman's statements on pedophilia, not misquoting him or taking it out of context. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread jason
Agreed. There should be some sort of limit to disassociating oneself from RMS; otherwise the logical conclusion seems to be to remove oneself from anything he ever had anything to do with at all which would seem to mean that one has to stop using any free software at all and go use 100%

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread gnuser
That makes no sense. RMS was not even involved in Trisquel, so any political opinions of his are in no way affecting the development of Trisquel, the choice of packages included in the distro, the themes (wallpapers, icons, etc). I see NO REASON that I should stop using an OS that has no

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread davidpgil
Exactly, what is needed in these times is tolerance and willingness to work together even beyond differences. Politics, belief-based views may change like the wind, but with a steady heart we can all just focus on the prize of a particular goal. I don't agree with everything any one person

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread dave
> What the heck is going on here? What's going on here is that software does not exist in a vacuum. It is created by groups of people, it is used by groups of people. We are political, and software is political due to that. > WTF?? How does any RMS opinion affect the way a GNU/Linux distro

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 18/09/19 13:15, wrote: > > Richard Stallman comments regarding pedophilia: Stallman says, and you can check it out on his own website, that he no longer thinks that way. What you are doing is to dig out Stallman's most controversial statements from his past and presenting them as if they

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread kopolee11
>> As a result I don't know what they're talking about... I've asked name at domain what these comments are, since they wrote that post to their own blog, but I'd like to know if anyone here has any idea what they're referring to? Richard Stallman comments regarding pedophilia: "Dubya has

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread gnuser
What the heck is going on here? I actually read people suggesting that RMS thoughts on some non-technological matter are enough of a reason to abandon a GNU/Linux distro... WTF?? How does any RMS opinion affect the way a GNU/Linux distro works? It's software one is talking about here, not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread Ignacio Agulló
The way I see it, you are lost from the very moment you try to defend someone's innocence - haters will inevitably profit from the occasion to claim everybody is guilty, even you who did nothing more to try to defend someone's innocence. That is a form of censorship, and people defending

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread enduzzer
Well, he can't do that – he's now put into writing that he defends RMS, so they'll just go after him.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Nobody lasts forever

2019-09-18 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 18/9/19 a les 1:18, onp...@riseup.net ha escrit: > I just want to point out that this didn't come out of thin air: > > https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794 > > RMS has been saying things like this for years, and only now he's being > held accountable. It's about