Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-08 Thread holger . beetz
Hi, I can not comment using Blender on Trisquel running Noveau. In general I would not go for the double medium price solution (2x 9500GT). A GF 9800GT or even better a 9800GTX will provide a much better performance than a doubled 9500GT plus the fact that open source drivers most likely

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-08 Thread cyberhawk
If you develop a webpage, you need to test it with the browser, that is being used by your target group. So if you want to test it with IE, you either have to install Windows in order to do that, or go the route I described. Do you think that's unethical to test a webpage with IE?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-08 Thread cyberhawk
Wow, that's a neat idea. Never heard of browsershots before! Still, somewhere, someone has to run IE in order to make a screenshot. Won't help much if the site being tested is still in development and has to be made IE-compatible before release...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-08 Thread onpon4
Running a nonfree program personally isn't unethical because it is you who is being victimized, but steering someone towards nonfree software is. I'm no web developer, but I'm a software developer. Unfortunately, Wine is too limited for cx_Freeze (a free program which freezes Python programs

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-08 Thread cyberhawk
I did not want to steer anyone to running non-free software. That's the last thing I'd do, I really admire the philosophy Richard Stalman developed and I believe he is the greatest thinker of our time. But as Mark wrote, I want to use Windows because I need Internet Explorer to test my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-08 Thread onpon4
Running Internet Explorer (a proprietary application) on Wine does not turn it free. Who said it does? I said *Wine* Internet Explorer: http://wiki.winehq.org/iexplore Technically, I suppose they just call it iexplore, after the name of the executable.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-08 Thread chris
You've never heard of this? I think there are a few others too. It isn't perfect though as it won't let you test (or did not in the past) interactive content. Much more of the web is interactive today than it ever was in the past.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-07 Thread cyberhawk
If you need to use IE for testing a webpage, you don't have to install Windows just for that ;) PlayOnLinux is a really cool program, that acts as a frontend for Wine. You just browse the application list of PlayOnLinux, choose the IE version you need, and it installs everything

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-07 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 07/03/13 05:13, cyberh...@lavabit.com escribió: If you need to use IE for testing a webpage, you don't have to install Windows just for that ;) PlayOnLinux is a really cool program, that acts as a frontend for Wine. You just browse the application list of PlayOnLinux, choose the IE

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-01 Thread zombieno . 7
I just wanted to say that I tried installing the devel iso of Trisquel 6.0, and there were some serious graphics issues with my card. Multi-monitor support was not supported, neither was the second GPU on the board. I think I may have to stay with Debian for right now.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-01 Thread mikko . viinamaki
What gfx card is that? (lspci|grep VGA)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-01 Thread zombieno . 7
GTX 690. I was just reading on Xinerama and nouveau, and it may be configurable. I think I have to take a second look at it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-01 Thread mikko . viinamaki
That's such a new card you probably could benefit from installing the latest Linux-libre kernel. And perhaps a newer X too. You can get the kernel here http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/#downloads For a newer X there's some PPA.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-03-01 Thread marty . trisquelgnulinux461
You would still need proprietary components to use Cycles on GPU. Blender uses CUDA, but it is not fully supported by free software. http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki#line-66

[Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread zombieno . 7
I have been away from Trisquel for a while, and I very much so want to return to it, but there are still a few things holding me back. I want to game. My friends are all active gamers, and my system is set up for gaming. I know that Steam is not free software, nor are the games that I'd

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread onpon4
How well Nouveau works depends on the actual video card. Some work perfectly, others have problems. My understanding is that upgrading the kernel can be necessary for some of them to work properly. Gnash only works properly for streaming YouTube videos, where it works just fine. The

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread zombieno . 7
Alright. The card is a kepler card, a GTX 690 to be exact. I have no problem working around Wine bugs and/or building from source, but the primary dilemma would be that of playing non-free games(and getting nouveau to work for it).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread onpon4
I don't know about that card and it's not listed on h-node. Maybe someone else can jump in. With regards to games, have you tried similar free games? I don't know what kinds of games you play. If you play FPSes, some gems are Xonotic, OpenArena, AssaultCube, and Tremulous. If you play

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread zombieno . 7
I'm personally okay with the free games. I've actually tried 0 A.D. and Xonotic and liked them. The main issues come from more social games, like WoW.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread matt . ivie
It seems like Ryzom could be an alternative if you want a social game to play. I've not done much with it and don't know if it fully qualifies as free software(I'm not talking game assets, just software).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread onpon4
Yep, Ryzom is really good, and yes, it is completely free; the art assets are under CC BY-SA, I think.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread marc-antoine . cardia
Hi ! This is my first post here (on the English Forum), sorry for my English, I'm a French user !! There is a Minecraft clone ? That is very nice, because I want to play with Minecraft on Trisquel GNU/Linux... So Minetest is a very good alternative. :) 0.a.d... This game is very nice, I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread viniciussm
Your card is very recent and nouveau had many improvements in Linux 3.8. You have to install the linux-libre repository to take full advantage and yes, I think performance will be good in 3.8. http://jxself.org/linux-libre/ The new lightspark supports Flash 12.1:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread Dave Hunt
Welcome to the community! Since you're making your computer, you can choose only hardware that will run on 100% free software. Databases like hnode.org may help.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread onpon4
You probably want Intel graphics; Nvidia cards usually work, but it's the product of a reverse-engineering effort, while Intel actually cooperates (very well) with its graphics controllers, so the quality is more assured and there's no worry that you might have to wait for it to be

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread zombieno . 7
The system is actually built already. The CPU is a 3930k, so no integrated graphics there, and the GPU is a 690(I am definitely not getting rid of that thing). I use it for a combination of light gaming and programming along with a bit of media playback and dvd ripping. It's running

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread marc-antoine . cardia
I want to buy a ASUS NVidia GeForce GTX 670 2Go because I have some video games for Windows like Far Cry 3. My friends send me those games so I want to play with them !! I want to make some 3D pictures in Trisquel with Blender. Blender have Cycles, a Real Time Render Engine , and generally,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread migatheotaku
I have a Kepler chipset, a GTX 660. It IS NOT stable with 3D. Kepler support was only introduced in Linux 3.8, so you'd have to be using a very recent kernel to get it to work, but regardless, it crashes A LOT. I'm talking probably 4-5 GPU lockups a day using just Compiz, forcing me to have

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread onpon4
The thing about Nvidia cards is since Nvidia does not cooperate with us, the only support available for them is from reverse-engineering. It has produced good results, but that means newer cards might not work so well yet. Like I said, you really should get Intel graphics if you can. Intel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread chris
I don't know what you mean by support although the best thing you can do is contribute. For most people that means a financial contribution. Donate: https://trisquel.info/en/donate Ir becoming a member: http://trisquel.info/en/member And there is also a gift store with branded products in

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread onpon4
I would forgo the Nvidia card and just use the Intel graphics you say you're getting, but that's fine. You can always take it back out, after all.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread onpon4
Monitors are (supposed to be) plug-and-play. If the Intel HD 4000 supports 1080p, it supports that monitor. I assume it must (1080p is not exactly new), and if for some strange reason it doesn't, you can always buy the video card later. ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread viniciussm
Even my 945GME from 32 bit Atom supports 1080p.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Moral Dilemma With Gaming/Drivers

2013-02-27 Thread chris
The 9500GT is a good choice if your going to get an NVIDIA card with good graphics support: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/geforce-9500gt-1gb-pci-express-20-video-card-gnulinux It is well supported by the nouveau project and the nouveau driver is now in the mainline kernel so pretty