Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-22 Thread danieldelahoyde
Absolutely agree with you Freedom. This is the usual pattern and very disappointing. Just means another fork of Firefox will be developed that'll have no DRM, forced ads, etc ... I'm really sick of Adobe trying to muscle in on everything. I wish they'd go away and develop something

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-22 Thread myself600
According to this Phoronix article, a new Firefox fork is beign developed under the name of Pale Moon with a goal to resolve the recent disagreement about the project direction. I hope that this will also bring native WebP support to finally deprecate the old JPEG/PNG formats that many

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-22 Thread legimet . calc
Pale Moon doesn't seem new. Also, the binaries on the website are nonfree.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-22 Thread onpon4
Pale Moon isn't new, and its goal has nothing to do with the recent direction of Firefox. It's been around for years (since 2009), and it's basically just what someone thinks is practically better in a browser. A developer has said on the Pale Moon forum that Firefox's EME system is never

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-22 Thread onpon4
Hm, I didn't notice this. In fact, the developer of Pale Moon mentions on that page principles of free software, by which they mean distributing without charge. Directing people to Pale Moon would be a rather dangerous move.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-22 Thread legimet . calc
If you use it, don't use the binaries. http://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-22 Thread myself600
To my previous comment: I just heard about the existence of the Pale Moon browser, I doesn't even looked at their website up until now. I simply wasn't that much interested (about the project, not the topic). While, as stated above, this project isn't new and that the developers doesn't

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-18 Thread tegskywalker
I've emailed Mozilla and it has gone onto deaf ears with no reply. Mozilla is very set in their ways and extremely self righteous. I've read responses from employees (like to Kuhn's recent post) and they give an arrogant response telling the users that they are making the right choices for

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-18 Thread retro
It's a recurring pattern. A business gets big and successful by giving users what they want, then it starts telling them what they should have and looks for ways to make more money. Then it enters a long slow decline as it alienates more and more users who are motivated to look for

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-17 Thread retro
I'm not simply giving in, but if there has been a change of policy at Mozilla (and money can have that effect) then I am not interested in their product any more. I will simply downgrade as much as necessary to a free browser rather than try to fight a losing battle along with the minority

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-17 Thread davidvargas1
Well, Even do, I don't agree with the decision of Mozilla in supporting DRM restrictions, that is fine with me, if they choose too. I don't use DRM NET anyhow. But to restrain me, In telling me that requires DRM to watch a public video that has been posted as Public, for example: teaching

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-16 Thread retro
I'm not going to fight it (they can do what they like) I'm just going to stop using Firefox. It's been on my to do list since they started talking about introducing ads, and alarm bells had been ringing already before that. I know they won't care if they lose one user, but I don't care

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-16 Thread joaovlg
Me too, two days ago i was using Ubuntu, but, the story about firefox and adobe and the loss of identity at the ubuntu project. So today i install the trisquel and i'm using now. It's so good! Is clean and simple and most fast. I really like it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-16 Thread chris
The problem is doing nothing means we end up with no good options. It won't matter if you don't use Firefox, IE, or Chrome. It still has a negative impact because more sites will adopt this new standard knowing that all of the important browsers have adopted it. Your non-ie-firefox-chrome

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-16 Thread onpon4
To be fair, Flash was adopted because there wasn't a better (in terms of practicality) alternative for streaming video at all, not because of the digital restriction feature. Videos that aren't from big producers probably won't be affected by EME, and I'm sure video sharing sites like

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-16 Thread legimet . calc
Even the sandbox isn't free (or even open source) software. The CDM checks the integrity of the sandbox, so you can't modify it. Even the open source definition says that people need to be able to experiment with and redistribute modifications. So despite their claims, the browser itself

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-16 Thread tegskywalker
All browsers will have to adopt it at some point considering they are at the mercy of the content providers. Heck, Firefox can't play the majority of the HTML5 video out there since H264, AAC, and MP3 are not enabled by default for most builds.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-15 Thread joel
I just recently received this news from FSF also. This reminds me of when Adobe released its Creative suite, free of charge, to students at my University. Shortly after, they started pushing their cloud software. In hindsight, I question their intentions and the effects. I know that I am

[Trisquel-users] Mozilla to adopt support for digital restrictions: help with the protest!

2014-05-14 Thread chris
Here is what the FSF has to say about it (scowl down for an email address to send a complaint): *You can read this post online at https://u.fsf.org/xk * # FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management BOSTON, Massachusetts, USA — Wednesday,