What a clear-headed gentleman. Jason Self for President!
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On 09/18/2019 07:37 AM, d...@trudgian.net wrote:
> I will also be leaving Trisquel at this point. This thread is playing
> out in a similar way to the Purism ones, with it being inferred that
> anyone not in the majority position on this forum hasn't read the source
> material etc. If the goal is
El 18/9/19 a les 11:35, Ignacio Agulló ha escrit:
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> The way I see it, you are lost from the very moment you try to
> defend someone's innocence - haters will inevitably profit from the
> occasion to claim everybody is guilty, even you who did nothing more to
> try to defend someone's
> What are you going to do, stop using Free Software altogether? Like "I
> don't use it because RMS said mean things"? Makes no sense. But to
> each his own.
Although I supported the FSF moving forward with a new president this is
not why I am leaving Trisquel, and I did not say that. I know that
Agreed. There should be some sort of limit to disassociating oneself from
RMS; otherwise the logical conclusion seems to be to remove oneself from
anything he ever had anything to do with at all which would seem to mean that
one has to stop using any free software at all and go use 100%
That makes no sense. RMS was not even involved in Trisquel, so any political
opinions of his are in no way affecting the development of Trisquel, the
choice of packages included in the distro, the themes (wallpapers, icons,
etc). I see NO REASON that I should stop using an OS that has no
Exactly, what is needed in these times is tolerance and willingness to work
together even beyond differences. Politics, belief-based views may change
like the wind, but with a steady heart we can all just focus on the prize of
a particular goal. I don't agree with everything any one person
> What the heck is going on here?
What's going on here is that software does not exist in a vacuum. It is
created by groups of people, it is used by groups of people. We are
political, and software is political due to that.
> WTF?? How does any RMS opinion affect the way a GNU/Linux distro
What the heck is going on here?
I actually read people suggesting that RMS thoughts on some non-technological
matter are enough of a reason to abandon a GNU/Linux distro... WTF?? How does
any RMS opinion affect the way a GNU/Linux distro works? It's software one is
talking about here, not
The way I see it, you are lost from the very moment you try to
defend someone's innocence - haters will inevitably profit from the
occasion to claim everybody is guilty, even you who did nothing more to
try to defend someone's innocence. That is a form of censorship, and
people defending
Well, he can't do that – he's now put into writing that he defends RMS, so
they'll just go after him.
El 18/9/19 a les 1:18, onp...@riseup.net ha escrit:
> I just want to point out that this didn't come out of thin air:
>
> https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794
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> RMS has been saying things like this for years, and only now he's being
> held accountable. It's about
Hey Calm,
I haven't used Trisquel in a little bit and when I saw this story, I wanted
to see what y'all were up to.
I would agree, but we do need someone to fill at least some of the void if
not better. Someone who has much trustworthiness as Jxself or better if
possible.
This! I had thought about saying maybe six hours. And yes, its not only not a
bad idea, he does seem to know quite a bit about how to handle the situation
of free software.
That being said, I only said nothing for so long, because Stallman's
situation deserved I thought some time before we
As sad as I am that it's come to this, I can't really say that I'm surprised.
Even though I agree with RMS on many, if not most things, I've always found
him to be pretty unconventional, and can easily see how others find him
totally controversial. It was only a matter of time. However,
I just want to point out that this didn't come out of thin air:
https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794
RMS has been saying things like this for years, and only now he's being held
accountable. It's about time. He's had so many chances to change already over
the
Hey, I wondered, where you have been t3g.
I didn't expect you appear at this time.
But yeah, careful with your links, it could be used to potential destroy the
fsf. and that would be dangerous to freedom as a whole.
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I nominate jxself for president of the FSF. I've always enjoyed his
commentary and viewpoints on free software.
me to
Yeah, the people jumping at the chance to throw RMS under the bus is worrying
me. I dislike his stances on many things, and think that he is very
anti-freedom on a lot of issues. But as for software, I look at him as kinda
like a founding father. I'm worried that with statements like "RMS
On 09/17/2019 11:18 AM, superbyel...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just so the Free Software Foundation doesn't go the way of the Linux
> Foundation.
>
> I nominate jxself for president of the FSF. I've always enjoyed his
> commentary and viewpoints on free software.
I never thought about jxself, but I
I just had a peek at SFConservancys page on Twitter about this. So many
trolls... My eyes are bleeding.
On 09/17/2019 08:13 AM, ja...@bluehome.net wrote:
> The FSF is now less for having lost RMS.
I will miss him greatly. I wish I could help. The man lost his job and
everything. It's terrible.
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I second that. I think we need someone at least as dedicated and knowledgeable
and jxself.
My fear is that some bad actor will come in and take the reigns. I really hope
that we are able to carry the ball going forward from here.
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Just so the Free Software Foundation doesn't go the way of the Linux
Foundation.
I nominate jxself for president of the FSF. I've always enjoyed his
commentary and viewpoints on free software.
Like Prometheus' gift of fire, RMS' gift of free software will now be carried
on by mere mortals. I hope that the FSF will continue to do great work.
My heart stopped for a moment. I thought he had passed... I hope there will be
a new worthy successor if that is even possible.
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I am unhappy for this and I am agree with jxself.
The FSF is now less for having lost RMS.
The Free Software Foundation has announced that Richard Stallman has
resigned as president, and also from its board of directors.
There are many capable people on the FSF than can continue
Richard's work, but for sure we will miss his enlightened steering.
Richard M. Stallman resigns
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