Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread magicbanana
You really need to understand that free software and making money are not antagonist. This year, Red Hat will make more than 1 *billion* dollars of sales. Red Hat does not deliver free software only... but almost (most of its business deals with servers on which you neither need Wifi

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread chris
I don't belive Richard Stallmans reason for calling it GNU/Linux has anything to do with credit particularly. He is not asking for people to call it Stallman/Linux. This is what some want you to belive. Some want you to blieve Richard Stallman is selfish and egotistical individual. His

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Debian has non-free repositories. Yeah, sure, officially they are not part of Debian but that's nothing but semantics. Adding non-free repos is not any different from adding non-free PPAs. I really suggest you do some reading about the history of free software to properly understand the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread mitja
ok ok duds this is way to offtopic now. I just need help installing non-free software on trisquel cuz i realy want to try trisquel if anyone can help me pleas do.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread mornealberts
No offence, but the fact that you keep on asking here about tainting a Free system with something non-Free makes me believe that you just don't understand the goal of this project. Trisquel is not just another distro out there that just happens to be 100% Free. This Freedom is the whole

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread mitja
i respect the freedom that you support and im an big supporter of FSF but if i want to do something with my computer i need internet. And im not the one who putted an wifi that is so hatefull to GNU. that is my friends fault-he works behind an computer totaly windows noob,and he realy

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread ninenine78
If you've got friends with laptops you can research the model numbers and find one that has a compatible mini-PCIe card in it then ask them to let you swap cards. Assuming the manufacturer hasn't locked the system to only accept that one wireless card, it should work without an issue. I did

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread ninenine78
I know, I'm proposing you find someone you know who has a laptop or netbook and check to see if their particular model has a wifi adapter that is libre supported. If so, open the chassis, and swap your non-free card for their libre card. Unless you've got mean friends who'd charge you for

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread gymnarchusniloticus
Well, I'd then suggest that you try out Fedora. They include only free software in the default install but with a blobbed kernel. There is also Debian. Although they ship with the libre kernel the installer scans your hardware and check what needs non-free firmware and gently asks you if you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-18 Thread tegskywalker
Mitja - I am glad that you have enthusiasm for getting this card to work on your system, but the reality is that you will not get it working on a Trisquel system unless you force non-free firmware or buy a new card. No one here on this forum is going to help you jerry rig your system to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread tegskywalker
Speaking of Debian, did you try it with the Linux Mint Debian Edition? http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Mint comes with proprietary software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread mitja
ok thanks for all of your help guys! Im on gnewsense as richard uses it. Im just going to try it abit will play around with it, and then im going to try trisquel and on the end Debian. Do you have any suggestions to wich linux to stick? I like in gnewsense that gives you 10/10 freedom but

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread gymnarchusniloticus
gNewSense is currently being ported to Debian base in the codename of gNewSense Parkes based on Debian Squeeze. It is still in alpha stage and they did not publish any cd image yet. Stallman uses this debian-based gNewSense on a Loongson(MIPS) architecture. Trisquel's symbol is based on the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread tegskywalker
Wow, that list pretty much excludes every major Linux distro from being compatible with the free software vision. Out of the box, Debian is as free software as Triquel or gNewSense. Its just that the FSF has the problem with users having the option to enable a non-free repository THAT THEY

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread mitja
i have ANOTHER PROBLEM i downloaded this http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-ralink and it worked awesome with gnewsense and now i tried the same package with trisquel and it doenst work. Can someone link be an page where i can download an firmware-ralink that will work with Trisquel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread magicbanana
PPAs are not parts of the Trisquel project. For instance, you will not find them if you browse http://packages.trisquel.info , whereas Debian's non-free repository is proposed at http://packages.debian.org . As you were told tens of times on this forum: there exist ethical ways to make

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread danieldelahoyde
You could use a wired connection (ethernet) as a work around. That will almost always work.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread teodorescup
Well, all thou I know it was not his intent, he rightfully use the word religious because we all know that Stallman is a saint in the Church of Emacs---Saint IGNUcius. http://www.stallman.org/saint.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread tegskywalker
Are you sure it is GNU/Linux? I actually went back and watched Revolution OS the other day and even Linus himself says that it should not be called GNU/Linux unless the distro itself is totally GNU or is done by them. Falls into the same as Red Hat Linux or SuSE Linux. It would be nice if

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread gustavo_cm
In this same link: There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-17 Thread tegskywalker
I wouldn't say it would be forcing Trisquel onto the FSF and creating friction, but maybe just a nudge. They do use a screen of it on their front page but I cannot check it now due to the SOPA blackout. :-) Here is my big dilemma on why I have posted what I have in the past: I have been

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread mitja
Ok here is the lspci results lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 HECI

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread mitja
so you are saying that i cant use trisquel?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread magicbanana
The recommended solution is to buy another Wifi card that works with free software only. As SirGrant and Chris mentioned earlier, those on http://libre.thinkpenguin.com (section Shop/Wireless Networking) all work out of the box with Trisquel and 25% of the profits made by ThinkPenguin are

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread mitja
Well hm the problem is this. I have an old computer in my room and this comp is only for playing around (backtrack,...)trying new GNU/linux distros and my dad isnt going to buy me an new wifi card cuz im going to high school in an few months from now so im going to need an laptop and im

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread mornealberts
If you're going to buy a 100% compatible laptop, run Trisquel. You'll get the exact same applications as Ubuntu, except for non-free stuff. Since your laptop will be 100% compatible, that's not a valid reason hardware-wise. The only reason I would use Ubuntu over Trisquel, all else being

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread magicbanana
I hope that rms will switch to Trisquel (if it is not the case yet). Using gNewSense does not make much sense: the last release was more than two years ago. It probably does not even receive any more update. Thinking of security updates and rms' political involvement, that is scary.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread Michał Masłowski
I hope that rms will switch to Trisquel (if it is not the case yet). Using gNewSense does not make much sense: the last release was more than two years ago. It probably does not even receive any more update. Thinking of security updates and rms' political involvement, that is scary.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread tegskywalker
The original poster should test to see if the wireless works by booting a live session off of the CD of the standard Ubuntu 11.04 release which is what the Trisquel 5 code is based off of. If it recognizes the chipset and goes online, then that means the wireless maybe needs a non free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread mitja
No my wireless works on every distro but it didnt work on debian and trisquel im going to try gnewsense when i come back from school. Well i checked distrowathc and it says for gnewsense Status: Dormant so yes its not updated no more. P.S: i tried ubuntu 11.04 10.10 and 10.4 and it works on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-16 Thread mornealberts
It won't work with gNewSense. You need non-free firmware and you won't find it there either. It should have worked on Debian if you use the non-free firmware, but you'll have to research how to do that yourself.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-15 Thread mitja
aha ok thanks so if i download this: firmware-ralink and wireless-tools packages. it will work?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-15 Thread magicbanana
We do not even know what card you have! But if you want help to install non-free software, you will not find it on this forum.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-15 Thread mitja
Ok will post the lspci results tomorrow

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-15 Thread sirgrant
The package wireless-tools is free software and is in the Trisquel repository. firmware-ralink is non-free software. If you read the copyright file it says you can only distribute it in binary form without modification meaning it isn't libre software. We can't recommend you install that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-15 Thread chris
If you are replacing the Mini PCIe card in your laptop with an N Mini PCIe card the key word is Atheros chipset. As SirGrant stated you can get them from http://libre.thinkpenguin.com/ and Trisquel will get a percentage.

[Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-14 Thread mitja
Im having trooble in connecting to wireless (configuring) i was never on gnome i was always on KDE so i need help how with this. thanks

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem When Connecting to WireLess!

2012-01-14 Thread magicbanana
When the chipset is supported by a free driver and a free firwmare there is normally nothing to do but clicking on the NetworkManager icon (representing two computer screens) in the panel and selecting the name of the Wifi network. If it is secured, a pop-up will prompt you for the required