Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-07-31 Thread nodrm . ever
You did not lose me. Having done much research on DRM and Trusted Computing, I am quite aware my custom-build cannot avoid all hardware-based DRM. What a custom-build can do is avoid majority of it, and through erasing all software-based DRM that one can, most of the unavoidable

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-07-31 Thread nodrm . ever
I think I have maybe found a way to use Trisquel as my OS, yet avoid the ordeal of teaching myself how to recompile/reconfigure the kernel, but being a newbie, I would like feedback from experienced users before I pursue a possible dead-end. Google searches indicate that INTEL_TXT.TXT,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-07-19 Thread nodrm . ever
Thanks for your comment. In fact, I am concerned with both, which is one reason I am doing custom-build. Unfortunately, it appears to me that there is no way to completely avoid hardware DRM, now that AMD has become a TCG groupie, so erasing any software based crud is even more essential to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-07-19 Thread chris
I think I lost you. As mentioned earlier you can't custom build a system entirely free of these issues. You can't buy an older system free of these issues. So what exactly are you going to custom build? Even the older systems have pieces like this. You are going to run into issues with: 1.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-07-19 Thread chris
Unless I'm mistaken the Intel DRM stuff is avoidable. Don't confuse graphics DRM with digital restrictions management. If we are talking about the Trusted Computing piece you just need to verify the CPU doesn't contain it. Even with the latest generation Intel CPU line up there are models

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-06-30 Thread chris
Yea- that is it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-06-30 Thread yeeehi
Is an Intel CPU with the absolutely appaling TXT technology on its own impotent? Does it require support from the chipset/motherboard to actually function? Are there many motherboards/chipsets that allow you to turn off the functionality of the TXT hardware?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-06-30 Thread mikko . viinamaki
At least some models with a TPM can disable it in the BIOS settings.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-06-30 Thread chris
I don't consider TXT to really be a deciding factor. I think having a system that works with free software is the number one priority. TXT is avoidable and so we should avoid it. However the handful of users who are avoiding the technology are not relevant to Intel. It's just too small a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-06-29 Thread chris
You are looking at it from the wrong angle I think. While the libre-kernel should really have this disabled in the software too the hardware is what you should be concerned about. At least at the moment you can avoid the Intel CPUs with support for Trusted Computing. We stopped shipping

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-06-27 Thread mikko . viinamaki
That is correct. However, it is not half as complicated as people think, especially if doing such a trivial change. Here's a guide to do just that I wrote while I was using Debian. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16t=36525 I suggest you try it, even if just for fun and learning.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-06-26 Thread nodrm . ever
So I assume that to totally erase the configuration items you listed requires me to learn how to rebuild or reconfigure the kernal at the least? Looks to be quite a daunting task for a newbie.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Trusted Computing

2012-06-25 Thread nodrm . ever
I'm an XP Pro user looking to switch to Linux. I have asked on other forums if there is any distro kernel version that is 100% free of this 'Trusted Computing' junk, and was recommended Trisquel. So my first question here is can anyone confirm that Trisquel contains absolutely no Trusted