[Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-10 Thread svhaab
http://mashable.com/2017/05/10/microsoft-ceo-dystopian-future/?utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_cid=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed#C2QrR0ysZqqA How many believes microsoft?

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-10 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 10/05/17 18:45, svh...@gmail.com wrote: > http://mashable.com/2017/05/10/microsoft-ceo-dystopian-future/?utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_cid=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed#C2QrR0ysZqqA > I do. This is not the nineties Microsoft.

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-10 Thread J.B. Nicholson
svh...@gmail.com wrote: http://mashable.com/2017/05/10/microsoft-ceo-dystopian-future How many believes microsoft? There's no reason to believe any software proprietor that they're looking out for user's interests. Nor is there any reason to single out Microsoft as being anything but an exam

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-10 Thread albertoefg
But.. They are still un the top of contributions on github. And.. Is not that I am saying they are the good guys.. But if I remember correctly Snowdon also said PRISM was using law and a secret court to force companies to gave the data. Even if this was against their will. Now you might thi

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-11 Thread infinityfallen
We should indeed not trust Microsoft to have the user's best interests in mind, but the message they've given is a good and valid one. The key here is to make sure we don't settle for anything less than we expect, and certainly no less than the now (weakly) reformed company has suggested we d

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-11 Thread enduzzer
It's our job to prevent '1984' from coming true It's our job(s) to do to prevent Apple from doing it ever again.

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-11 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
This reminds me of: #+BEGIN_QUOTE While sometimes corporations are on our side [...] [and] stand up for the public's interest [...] We should not have to rely on them. --- Edward Snowden, from [[https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/libreplanet-2016-the-last-lighthouse-3d51/]] #+END_QUOTE

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-11 Thread calmstorm
Oh I believe Microshifty is absolutely telling the truth, just as much as I believe climate change isn't caused by mankind and just as much as I believe chemtrails are real and that unicorns and leprechauns are everywhere in Scotland. ;/

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-11 Thread jodiendo
CalmStorm Well, I believe climate change is real and caused by mankind. But Unicorns in multi-colors or pink are from Gaylandia Universe. Leprechauns are from Scotland?, why Scotland and not Ireland?.. Um, let me think on this one, Scottish people want independence from England right? and from

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-11 Thread svhaab
I consider what microsoft is saying a mockery. I do want to know the result of a poll asking people if they believe them.

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-11 Thread calmstorm
Fair point, I said the wrong country, I meant ireland, I just got confused. ;P Although, this I am sure you could tell was pure mockery of malwaresoft. I called it microshifty, also because they are always hiding something within their software. ;/ oh well. Good thing Richard Stallman made

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-11 Thread calmstorm
The funny thing is, I think the poll would show 50% believe it, and the sad thing being most don't care.

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-12 Thread greatgnu
>How many believes microsoft? It's not much a question of 'believing' or trusting. The game is lost merely because of indifference. Unfortunately it takes an apparently rare combination of "caring enough to read and understanding what you read". Anyone, I am convinced, who cares even remote

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-13 Thread jodiendo
immune to them!.. Well depends if you had your immunity shots updated since you was kid,but TOO TRUST THOSE SHOTS AS A LIFESAVER, IS THE QUESTION IN DEBATE. The same with software are they are trust worthy? At a point yes, but the viruses in software cause havoc, which develop a new market o

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-13 Thread calmstorm
hmm you might be right, but yeah, I do think not enough people care because of the inconveniences it would cause them to fight full power against it. stupid capitalism... ugh... -_- I mean really... do we really need to have a capitalist controlled government... well I guess we better get

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-13 Thread encryptedram
> Hard to go completely cold turkey yet. > tried before, not easy I can tell you. Same, I still have to use things like Google Docs for school. And my laptop runs a non-free BIOS that I can't get rid of without buying a new computer. Personally I gave up playing games after making the switch

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-13 Thread infinityfallen
This is indeed the problem- there's a steep uphill involved in even partly liberating oneself, especially if there's no tangible motivation to do so and/or if computing is not a skill one has. As for the capitalist-controlled government, I think we *do* need that. It'd be a pity for the hun

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-13 Thread infinityfallen
Same here. I've been lucky in never having been much of a gamer in the first place (so I didn't have to worry about that), but the non-free BIOS and proprietary JS needed for school are still problematic.

Re: [Trisquel-users] microsoft against surveillance, they say

2017-05-13 Thread infinityfallen
The worst part is that the anti-virus programs in circulation now probably aren't even necessary- MS Windows has one built in, which is just as competent as any mainstream one (but for free with your spyware...), so the entire market is effectively an oligopoly feeding on unfounded fears. The