Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-12-18 Thread autumnlover
> Rumor had it that Ubuntu 18.04 LTS would be supported for 10 years Only if Canonical still be around for another 8 years :) On the side-note it is worth to mention that Canonical's ESM patches for 14.04 are now available gratis. Search the web for "Ubuntu ESM personal" to get the link.

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-12-06 Thread fvalvarez
I've never used GNOME, only LXDE on lubuntu and now xfce on trisquel mini. As I said - old computers..

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-12-04 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 12/04/2019 12:25 AM, fvalva...@journalist.com wrote: > For me 16.04 just works flawlessly, Its version of GNOME, and all the GNOME apps like totem, are broken. <>

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-12-03 Thread fvalvarez
I'm no developer, just a general user, but if I had to compare 16.04 versus 18.04 - I had a lot of problems and stability issues in 18.04. For me 16.04 just works flawlessly, so I really enjoy using trisquel 8 (for more than a year now everyday) with only minor problems and I'm actually not

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-12-03 Thread mason
> Lite Software offers a seemingly curated, de-mystified list of > "popular" apps and other installs. > https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/software.html#installsoftware Yes, it is based on manual curation. The source code contains a hard coded list of applications to recommend.[1] Much of it is

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-12-03 Thread leoo
I have zero idea about technical underpinnings, so maybe I should just remain silent, but... Linux Lite is also Ubuntu based, so it may be easier to use some of its code than non Ubuntu based distros. https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/software.html#instsoftware It seems to have two

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-28 Thread mason
> FYI I recently found our that the Jami devs only support the most > recent 2 Ubuntu LTS releases, so if Etiona is not released by the time > 20.04 is released, no officially released and currently supported > Trisquel version will be actively supported by Jami: >

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-28 Thread strypey
Thanks chaosmonk for sharing this update on Etiona progress. I intend to carve out some time to learn how to help with some of the simpler Trisquel tasks, and I encourage other members of the Trisquel user community to do the same. That way, there is a better chance of each Trisquel version

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-27 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 11/27/2019 12:19 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > And, it is all completely unrelated to the Trisquel operating system, > and, to the topic of the thread. Indeed. It was perhaps unwise of me to humor Mr. Liang. <>

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-27 Thread David Philipe Gil
Please continue this off-topic subject in another forum. This thread is about the Trisquel 9 roadmap. Thank you. publickey - davidpgil@protonmail.com - 0x01EB3346.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-27 Thread softwdensky
I respect your opinion but just this, please inform me if there is such a country which has not involved, ab initio, gratuitous mass murder and slaughter of defenceless and innocent children, and, destruction of resources, by fanatic extremists. Burkina Faso does not seem remarkable but

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-27 Thread Bret Busby
On 27/11/2019, Caleb Herbert wrote: > On 11/26/2019 11:12 PM, xliang9...@live.cn wrote: >> the term "market" is tightly associated with capitalism, which is >> inherently incompatible with freedom/liberation. > > This is but an opinion. > >> We once succeeded in >> Soviet Union (1922~1953) and

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-27 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 11/26/2019 11:12 PM, xliang9...@live.cn wrote: > the term "market" is tightly associated with capitalism, which is > inherently incompatible with freedom/liberation. This is but an opinion. > We once succeeded in > Soviet Union (1922~1953) and China (1949~1976), and we shall win again.

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-26 Thread xliang9550
I agree that marketing is so powerful (and usually overwhelming). But the term "market" is tightly associated with capitalism, which is inherently incompatible with freedom/liberation. We are grave diggers of capitalism, not defenders of it. We once succeeded in Soviet Union (1922~1953)

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-26 Thread mason
> It works just fine on Fedora 31. Just Start Typing! The last version of Fedora that I tried was 29, I think. After a fresh install, I launched gnome-software, and it was unable to find any applications. I eventually found a workaround (I forget what it was), and got applications to show up,

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-26 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 11/26/2019 02:04 AM, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: > (1) It is a buggy piece of crap. On every distro I have tried it on > (Trisquel, Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora), I have run into serious problems. It works just fine on Fedora 31. Just Start Typing! > (2) It prioritizes being fancy and Apple-like

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-26 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 11/26/2019 01:15 AM, xliang9...@live.cn wrote: > Then what about gnome-software? I see that gnome-software has least > issues to fix. Just disable snap integration I need to use Flatpak for Polari and Gajim. <>

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-26 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 11/26/2019 12:37 AM, ma...@masonhock.com wrote: > I've reviewed various alternative apt frontends. The only ones that I > liked were apper and mx-package-installer, neither of which is a > suitable replacement for gnome-app-install: GNOME Software is the best! <>

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-26 Thread xliang9550
Thank you very much for patiently explaining the situations. Now I feel that I got your point. I agree that gnome-software is something "cr*p like". For example, it uses ambiguous "free" to denote either "as in free speech" or "as in free beer". This is pointless in Trisquel, as everything

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-26 Thread mason
> Then what about gnome-software? I see that gnome-software has least > issues to fix. Just disable snap integration and fix certain > GTK-related issues. (Maybe a few more works need to be done, such as > removing any ambiguous "free" in the license areas.) Generally, > purifying gnome-software

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-25 Thread xliang9550
Then what about gnome-software? I see that gnome-software has least issues to fix. Just disable snap integration and fix certain GTK-related issues. (Maybe a few more works need to be done, such as removing any ambiguous "free" in the license areas.) Generally, purifying gnome-software seems

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-25 Thread mason
> And especially, I'm looking forward to Trisquel's new software center. I've reviewed various alternative apt frontends. The only ones that I liked were apper and mx-package-installer, neither of which is a suitable replacement for gnome-app-install: apper does not distinguish between

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-23 Thread mason
> Thank you for compiling this. I have wanted to help but I have been > having trouble getting started. I dont't know where to begin with > creating a package helper and havent had time to try. Apologies! If you look at the wiki page, you'll see that some of the missing packages specify where the

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-23 Thread David Philipe Gil
Thank you for compiling this. I have wanted to help but I have been having trouble getting started. I dont't know where to begin with creating a package helper and havent had time to try. Apologies! publickey - davidpgil@protonmail.com - 0x01EB3346.asc Description: application/pgp-keys

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-22 Thread xliang9550
Thanks for sharing the development progress. Rumor had it that Ubuntu 18.04 LTS would be supported for 10 years, and so is Trisquel 9. I routinely use Debian testing or sid, yet I don't need latest packages on every computing device, so Trisquel 9 would be perfect for such few devices of

[Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-11-22 Thread mason
For anyone who would like to track the status of Trisquel 9 (or even better, would like to help), here is a list and description of everything that needs to be done before Trisquel 9 is released. https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/status-package-helpers-etiona signature.asc Description: PGP