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Good stuff!
Thanks for posting that Colleen.
I saved it.
David
Dennis was asked to evaluate The Unstacking Procedure and he started
talking about the danger of asking the mind for opposers. He
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Slim,
Very good, Slim.
This is the most correct answer posted on this subject, so far.
You are getting better Slim,
David
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:40:12 -0700
From: theresolutionofm...@gmail.com
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Jonah:
Law of duality:
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
For every state, there is an equal and opposite state.
Black- white.
Right - wrong.
Hot- cold.
Wet-dry.
Male-female.
serenity. That is s excellent !
Aarre Peltomaa
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:26 AM, David M. Pelly
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I reached a new level in my processing.
This morning
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Well, my dear friends, critics, condemners and adversaries,
I have to give credit where credit is due.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
After all the hot air and BS, for six yrs,
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Slim,
Quoting you:
Like building 7 of the WTC.
A while ago, I asked you a question along that line of subject matter or
context, and
your reply was:
it did not happen.
Now, in effect, you
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Cory,
You spurred a thought for me.
If it is true that Must be Known and Must know are our primary
postulates,
via logic and reason that means that we come as a blank slate.
It means that we do
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Excellent advice, Alberto.
I have been doing that ( exactly as you say) for a good month
and found it to be more than extremely helpful.
There is huge charge and gains to be made in there.
In my
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Alberto,
After I posted that I could not find any charge, a few days ago,
I took a couple of days rest from processing, then felt the need to do more.
I decided to process on must be, must do,
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Leo,
There will be many weak minds who will argue to defend their deity to be
right, and cannot be wrong.
Weak minds are those who Dennis has cleverly overwhelmed and taken over.
And who now can only
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I reached a new level in my processing.
This morning I woke up and began processing.
I looked everywhere and ran everything;
inflictions
deprivations,
revelations,
rejections
forced this and forced
, or re-discover, all there is to know about life; he will also
discover his true nature as a spiritual being.
Martin
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On Behalf Of David M. Pelly
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 10:06 PM
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Then it is you who is responsible for all the wars, and terrorism around the
world, and mass school shootings and mall shootings in the USA, and everywhere
else in the world.
And it is you caused me
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The idea of everything being flow zero is in contradiction to the PFC.
If everything was of flow zero,
then there would not be the overwhelm and forced to ...factors in
the PFC.
And there
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I know what you mean.
Had numerous experiences like that.
That is because you are not focused on the comm,
or not in present time.
It actually happened today.
I was on the phone with a friend and
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Paul,
Co-incidentally, I was laying in bed for a couple of hours this am trying
different ways of running the PFC and thinking about all the different aspects
of L5 and what is actually trying to be
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Clear language
Clear
Language, also known as plain language, is a set of principles that
have been developed to ensure that the written language is clear. Clear
language principles cover such areas as
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Interesting experience, Pete.
I have run out lots of case in nightmares and dreams.
Probably more than I have in sessions.
I always feel good after nightmares and heavy and deep dreaming.
David
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Why are your direct emails bouncing and getting delayed delivery?
David
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Paul,
Here is what I get when I send you an email.
David
From: postmas...@mail.hotmail.com
To: david.pe...@hotmail.ca
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:03:16 -0800
Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)
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Alessandro,
I do know about the viewpoint that you mention here.
And several others.
How do we find the TRUTH?
Only the truth will set us free.
David
From: jago...@tiscali.it
To:
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Slim,
Re: Source:
There is a guy near your neck of the woods, (Henderson, Nevada) by the name of
Mark Hamilton, who heads up Neo Tech.
He is the son of Frank Wallace, (originally Wallace Ward) who
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I was at the grocery store
today and in the parking lot, I saw a dark blue old beater of a car
(probably a Ford Taurus or Tempo or something like that) with a license
plate that said:
Dmndgirl.
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Sean,
Quoting you: (this is a bit of a long one, but then what is time?)
In this mest world, time is money.
Every second costs money.
Got to at least pay for shelter and food.
:)
David
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Trom level 5.MP3 128kb/sA taped letter to Judith Methven detailing how to run
level 5A of TROM.
Transcripts:
Tape of TROM level 5.DOC
Tape of TROM level 5.PDF
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:36:40
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Slim,
I was wondering what happened to you.
Thanks for answering my questions.
Now that you are back in this universe, please dematerialize, teleport and
rematerialize at my place and we will go for
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Why I am posting this? I am posting this revision of the postulate failure
cycle because in my first 6 attempts with TROM (The first 3 being 1998, then
another 3 in 2008- 9- 10) I would get bogged
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Page
49-50 of TROM Version: http://www.freezoneamerica.org/pub/trompdf.pdf
Original:
The eight classes of overwhelm:
1. Forced to know.2. Preventing from being known.3. Prevented from knowing.4.
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Slim,
Are these the universes you have visited?:
John 14:1-3
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Pete or anyone else,
If there are any deaberrated, revised, edited, or redone versions of TROM I
would like you to tell me where they all are?
All of them.
Thanks,
David
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Slim,
1. Suppose some deranged person is hell bent on attacking you, even destroying
you.
Are you effected by such?
Can you disable them?
Can you delete their postulates?
Or how do you deal with
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Blood of Jesus discovered and analyzed and found to have only 24 chromosomes;
23 from mother and 1 from Father:
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Slim,
1. According to the Oahspe book, a very interesting channeled book, the
highest spiritual energy diet is fruit and nuts from the tallest trees
possible. The higher off the ground the food grows,
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There are lots of your kind here Tim.
We are proud to be called Squirrels.
Being a squirrel means you have enough intelligence to question and think and
evaluate and create for yourself.
If you are
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Pete,
I never heard of such an event.
Where did it hit?
Where is the crater?
Where is the evidence?
David
Canada
From: pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:24:56
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dd
A Thought to Ponder from The Urantia Book
Without
mind in some phase there would be
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Say it:
Remembered today for his collections of Uncle Remus tales, Joel Chandler Harris
spent 25 years as an associate editor of the Atlanta Constitution. During that
time, he counseled his
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Paul,
I think all this tech talk on havingness is bullshit.
Pure bullshit.
It goes on forever and I have less now than I had when I started.
I have been discussing with and
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I
am looking for a good powerful assistant writer, ghost writer, ebook
publisher, ecommerce website builder and internet marketer.
The ideal person would be an accomplished liberal
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I know.
David
From: pti...@proftitleserv.com
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 10:09:16 -0700
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Solopsism to David
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Pete,
Hi David,
P. Thanks for telling me how you feel.
D. I do not feel.
Feelings are usually irrational ( based on bank or and an aberrated GE via
bank) and is/are a function of
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Yes, Paul, I would say that they are perceived as mass, because postulates
are causitive.
And they could collect charge or cause ridges due to being in conflict with
universal law or someone else's
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Dear Trommers,
I have a legal problem as explained below:
Is there anyone with any law back ground or just good old common sense that
can help me solve this problem:
(Note: I posted this question
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Thanks Paul,
Very excellent and useful points made.
Thanks again,
David
From: pti...@proftitleserv.com
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:10:12 -0700
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: [TROM1] Help
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Postulates are solid matter. My postulate or yours are not different in that
respect other than location in space and time and solidity. We can create
them to greater or lesser
gathered
and then conclusions thereupon if we so desire. Nothing wrong with
any of that.
Paul/Level 5 in progress
On Aug 1, 2012, at 5:36 PM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote:
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:38:56 -0400
From: David M. Pelly david.pe...@hotmail.ca
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It occurred to me over the last little while that the prayer rituals of
fundamental religions that are supposed to be done every morning when you get
out of bed and and before bed, and when ever else,
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Thanks Paul,
But
That sounds like a good sales pitch.
If we were tied down with cotton lint, I think most of us would be free.
Even LRH himself, did not resolve his case.
Talk is cheap.
Let
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If you took an honest look at what is going on in the world, ( an impartial
view from the space station and in a state where you can see and hear and
understand everything that is going on on earth)
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I had first wrote this up and posted it on Ifachat and thought it would be good
to post it here too:
Here is the root cause of the mass killings...
(I quoted LRH from Science of survival
in a cave not to see them everywhere.
On 7/24/2012 3:05 PM, David M. Pelly wrote:
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I had first wrote this up and posted it on Ifachat and thought it
would be good to post it here too:
Here
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Mike posted this on Ifachat,
I thought it had some good data, so I thought to post it here:
LRH: Begin
As Man all too easily specializes in stops he tends to stress what
SHOULDN'T be done.
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Pete,
There is something wrong with this mail - list program.
I get everything ( all data) bunched up and packed together.
That means, if I make a clear, well spaced format, and post it, it appears on
them
to me. i will forward them to Flemming.
Thanks
Pete
Sent from my iPad
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Pete,
There is something wrong with this mail - list program.
I
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Hi Paul,
You also make some good points.
Notice that I wrote:
Mike posted this on Ifachat, I thought it had some good data, so I
thought to post it here:
I didn't feel like dissecting it and
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Leoncio
Your posts are helpful.
Thanks.
David
From: lsmadr...@selecom.com.br
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:33:45 -0300
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Hello
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17:36, David M. Pelly wrote:
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Hubbard said: Scientology is the study of knowledge and the science of
knowing how to know.
I have never heard any one ask the question: Know what?
The only
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In other words, what you are saying Paul, is, as long as one plays life goals
he could be in nirvana.
If you play non life goals, then you create en-nirvana.
(I just invented a new word.)
Non
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Slim
RE: your post on Ip lectures and paranoid definition
You are not being honest. You have witholds.
You are continously contradicting yourself or misrepresenting yourself and
misleading
.
David
Hi David
hope you are feeling better. are you using TROM or something else to handle
this manifestation?
Sincerely
Pete
Sent from my iPad
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You mean?:
In other words, or more precise words:
Nirvana is a state of mind or a state of consciousness or a state of existence.
You could also use the word level instead of state.
Right?
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It occurred to me that you would check me on the word mind.
Then I thought to let it go.(at the least it would stir up some
agitation and we don't learn much without agitation)
Because
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Colleen,
I don't think you have read or followed all my posts.
I said several times that I was only able to do the little TROM I did, and
that was mostly L2 , after I learned some about the Sedona
, fanaticism, and faith.
That's why all these systems discourage doubt and objective criticism.
On 7/1/2012 5:09 PM, David M. Pelly wrote:
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Pete,
I also tend to be very left brained, reason, logic
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Collen,
You wrote.
, even though his accusations are undetailed.
Where or what undetailed?
Thank you,
And you are welcome.
David.
love,
colleen
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Over an hour ago, I either got some bad energy sent to me or I got some bad
energy restimulated in me.
I haven't had this happen, this intensely for quite some time.
If it is the same thing. I
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I want to add that that mass permeates my entire head, causing some electrical
activity.
Especially when I close my eyes and get into it.
David
From: david.pe...@hotmail.ca
To:
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And the goal of the thetan is to attain God realization.
I haven't read much real eastern spirituality and philosophy.
But I have read some, especially some what I would call second hand stuff, or
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Pete,
I also tend to be very left brained, reason, logic, scientific minded and
engineering oriented.
(As a matter of fact, anything other than using reason to figure out and
understand
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Colleen,
Your question is more complex, or of greater magnitude, than I think you
realize.
I would say that at least for one thing, the primary clue or idea lies in the
article:
How to study
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I happen to learn about this yesterday.
I think I vaguely recall hearing about it in passing, some time ago, but if I
did it sure did not register.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
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Martin,
Re: your posts of Dennis' quotes:
Are Dennis' quotes ( teachings or viewpoint) the be all and end all on the
subject?
First you have to use reason and ask is it true?
If so, how
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Hi David,
Answers interspersed below:
On 24 June 2012 12:18, David M. Pelly wrote:
Re: your posts of Dennis' quotes:
Are Dennis' quotes ( teachings or viewpoint) the be all and end all
on the subject?
Absolutely NOT. I
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Colleen
What is a datum of comparable magnitude to impartiality in Scientology?
David
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 14:37:46 -0400
From: cygnifi...@gmail.com
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: [TROM1] Power
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Glen,
I must say that your explanation of this issue of victims and perpetrators is
the best logic I have seen or hear on the subject.
I don't even think it could be evaluated and reasoned better than
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There is only logic in the universe.
Everything works on logic.
Everything in this universe is the effect of a cause.
Everything works by cause and effect.
Cause and effect is logic at work.
The
, David M. Pelly wrote:
Misogyny only exists in the minds of aberrated women.
And no where else.
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Misogyny only exists in the minds of aberrated women.
And no where else.
Re: outrage.
A whole bunch of wrongs, do not make a right.
It only offers further proof, that the planet needs another
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One person said that he was into scientology before he wrote the book; The
Power of Now.
When you take a bird on the wire viewpoint of the situation, you should be
able to see the connection or
was one.
xriz
Am 09.06.2012 16:49, schrieb David M. Pelly:
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One person said that he was into scientology before he wrote the
book; The Power of Now.
When you take a bird on the wire viewpoint
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Valentino,
I have had a very similar problem with tiredness since I was about 15 and I am
58 now. There was a lot of trauma in my home when i was young and this caused
me to not get much sleep, due
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Flying rudiments is Clearbird material.
David
From: pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:55:19 -0800
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: [TROM1] Flying rudiments
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That should read:
the particular data you post on Flying Rudiments,etc. , Pete, is from
Clearbird material.
David
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Dear Friends:
Happy Belated Valentines Day..
A Food Valentine
Cabbage always
has a heart;
Green beans string along.
You're such a Tomato,
Will you Peas to me belong?
You've been the
, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:29 PM, David M. Pelly wrote:
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Dear Friends:
Happy Belated Valentines Day..
*A Food Valentine *
*Cabbage always has a heart;
Green beans
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Thank you so much, Carlos.
I appreciate hearing and learning about Ayahuasca from someone who has done
both Ayahuasca and auditing.
I imagine that it is quite possible that by my inquiry
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Has anyone here ever taken Ayahuasca?
Has anyone here ever processed someone who has done Ayahuasca?
I want to know what the experience of taking Ayahuasca is a from a Scientology
( or TROM)
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Hope you enjoy these words to help guide you on your path. Sent to me by a
friend. From one friend to another we are all being guided to our place of
peace. L/L Henry
Be thankful in all things.
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Nothing is important unless you want it to be important.
Nothing matters unless you want it to matter.
David
of being aberrated twice.
Li
Von: David M. Pelly
An: TROM List
Gesendet: 6:08 Samstag, 31.Dezember 2011
Betreff: Re: [TROM1] Games being aberrating
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All games
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All games are aberrating in the absence of the knowledge of how to play games
without becoming aberrated or becoming effect.
David
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Vlad,
Drink kefir every day too.
Use as many other cultured ( probiotics) products too.
They supply the intestinal tract with beneficial microflora to aid digestion.
Chew about 5 grams of calcium
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Roberto,
Oh thou proud, little, feeble minded man, composed of few theta units, and
dressed in false authority to suggest who should be on this list. Thou art
most assured of what
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The only workable way to promote new ideas ( and be successful ) such as this,
is to speak to those who will listen and those from far away will come.
One of, if not the biggest mistake
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Glen,
Very well said! Your words are like a breath of fresh air and light in a
stale, musty and dark room.
You are one of the very few people on this list who are intellectually and
perceptually
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Roberto,
Read John McMaster's stuff and Filbert's bridge and you will learn that less
than one tenth of one percent of Hubbard's words is true.
Only those who have the right kind of ears to hear and
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To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: RE: [TROM1] Basic Basic on a chain of Postulates
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:11:07 -0400
Pete,
I was just in part, discussing the
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I and another individual have communicated with Judith Anderson.
The essence of her comm was that she is very disappointed and frustrated with
TROM and wants nothing more to do with it.
It is not
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Colleen, it took me three years of very hard work and heavy going to do to end
of L 4.
I would say 2 1/2 yrs to get to end of L3.
David
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