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Good stuff!
Thanks for posting that Colleen.
I saved it.
David
Dennis was asked to evaluate "The Unstacking Procedure" and he started
talking about the danger of asking the mind for opposers. He sugg
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Slim,
Very good, Slim.
This is the most correct answer posted on this subject, so far.
You are getting better Slim,
David
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:40:12 -0700
From: theresolutionofm...@gmail.com
To
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Jonah:
Law of duality:
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
For every state, there is an equal and opposite state.
Black- white.
Right - wrong.
Hot- cold.
Wet-dry.
Male-female.
The Resolution of Mind list
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> > David,
> > A belated congratulations on your serenity. That is s excellent !
&g
x27;t find any more charge
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David,
A belated congratulations on your serenity. That is s excellent !
Aarre Peltomaa
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:26 AM, David M. Pelly wrote:
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Well, my dear friends, critics, condemners and adversaries,
I have to give credit where credit is due.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
After all the hot air and BS, for six yrs,
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Quote:
Occam's razor is often cited in stronger forms than Occam intended, as in the
following statements. . .
"If you have two theories that both explain the observed facts, then you should
use
th
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You are welcome Pete,
I only try to help.
Where ever I go, the theta usually tends to increase.
Even if it takes a while to sink in.
When Moses led his people out of Egypt and were supposed to go to t
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Slim,
Quoting you:
"Like building 7 of the WTC."
A while ago, I asked you a question along that line of subject matter or
context, and
your reply was:
"it did not happen".
Now, in effect, you
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Cory,
You spurred a thought for me.
If it is true that "Must be Known" and "Must know" are our primary
postulates,
via logic and reason that means that we come as a blank slate.
It means that we
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Pete,
Get this in the TROM help site.
Main IVy page:
http://articles.ivymag.org/pdfs.html
http://ivymag.org/CompleteContents.html
TROM article Bob Ross http://articles.ivymag.org/pdf/IVy21
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> > than "Re: Contents
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Alberto,
After I posted that I could not find any charge, a few days ago,
I took a couple of days rest from processing, then felt the need to do more.
I decided to process on must be, must do, mu
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Pete,
And with non physical "eyes" you can " see " in the dark, or tend to
increasingly see more in the dark, the more you develop your non physical eyes.
David
> From: pete_mclaughlin_
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Excellent advice, Alberto.
I have been doing that ( exactly as you say) for a good month
and found it to be more than extremely helpful.
There is huge charge and gains to be made "in there".
In my opi
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I reached a new level in my processing.
This morning I woke up and began processing.
I looked everywhere and ran everything;
inflictions
deprivations,
revelations,
rejections
forced this and forced
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Leo,
There will be many weak minds who will argue to defend their deity to be
right, and cannot be wrong.
Weak minds are those who Dennis has cleverly overwhelmed and taken over.
And who now can only t
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Then it is you who is responsible for all the wars, and terrorism around the
world, and mass school shootings and mall shootings in the USA, and everywhere
else in the world.
And it is you caused me to
ck under his own determinism these four basic postulates - both as SD and
> PD - which go to make up the interchange we call life. Enroute he will
> discover, or re-discover, all there is to know about life; he will also
> discover his true nature as a spiritual being.
>
> Martin
&
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The idea of everything being "flow zero" is in contradiction to the PFC.
If everything was of flow zero,
then there would not be the "overwhelm" and "forced to" ...factors in
the PFC.
And the
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Slim,
good post,
helpful post,
Your posts are continually making more and more sense.
David
> From: slimspersonalem...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:39:16 -0800
> To: trom@lists.newciv.org
> Su
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I know what you mean.
Had numerous experiences like that.
That is because you are not focused on the comm,
or not in present time.
It actually happened today.
I was on the phone with a friend and he
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Pete.
See Interspersed.
>
> Hi all
> I apologize to anyone on the list that is upset by the critical emails about
> TROM and my editing of the TROM books.
D>1. There is at least some ho
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Interesting experience, Pete.
I have run out lots of case in nightmares and dreams.
Probably more than I have in sessions.
I always feel good after nightmares and heavy and deep dreaming.
David
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Clear language
Clear
Language, also known as plain language, is a set of principles that
have been developed to ensure that the written language is clear. Clear
language principles cover such areas as
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Paul,
Co-incidentally, I was laying in bed for a couple of hours this am trying
different ways of running the PFC and thinking about all the different aspects
of L5 and what is actually trying to be ac
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Slim,
This post emotes more theta than any other post you ever posted.
TROM has to be rewritten in clear language.
Def of clear language on next post.
David
> The mass is material that's time brok
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Paul,
Here is what I get when I send you an email.
David
From: postmas...@mail.hotmail.com
To: david.pe...@hotmail.ca
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:03:16 -0800
Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)
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Why are your direct emails bouncing and getting delayed delivery?
David
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Slim,
I ack your post.
I am working on it.
Thanks,
David
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:41:09 -0800
From: slimspersonalem...@gmail.com
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: [TROM1] Wordless postulates re
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Alessandro,
I do know about the viewpoint that you mention here.
And several others.
How do we find the "TRUTH"?
Only the truth will set us free.
David
> From: jago...@tiscali.it
> To: trom@lists.
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Slim,
Re: Source:
There is a guy near your neck of the woods, (Henderson, Nevada) by the name of
Mark Hamilton, who heads up "Neo Tech".
He is the son of Frank Wallace, (originally Wallace Ward) who
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I was at the grocery store
today and in the parking lot, I saw a dark blue old beater of a car
(probably a Ford Taurus or Tempo or something like that) with a license
plate that said:
Dmndgirl.
(When
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Sean,
Quoting you: (this is a bit of a long one, but then what is time?)
In this mest world, time is money.
Every second costs money.
Got to at least pay for shelter and food.
:)
David
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Trom level 5.MP3 128kb/sA taped letter to Judith Methven detailing how to run
level 5A of TROM.
Transcripts:
Tape of TROM level 5.DOC
Tape of TROM level 5.PDF
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:36:40 -0800
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Slim,
I was wondering what happened to you.
Thanks for answering my questions.
Now that you are back in this universe, please dematerialize, teleport and
rematerialize at my place and we will go for co
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Ake,
Thanks for asking the question.
The black out you refer to is definitely within the definition of change.
The black out is caused by contacting heavy charge in your case, so heavy,
that it overwh
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Page
49-50 of TROM Version: http://www.freezoneamerica.org/pub/trompdf.pdf
Original:
The eight classes of overwhelm:
1. Forced to know.2. Preventing from being known.3. Prevented from knowing.4.
F
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Why I am posting this? I am posting this revision of the postulate failure
cycle because in my first 6 attempts with TROM (The first 3 being 1998, then
another 3 in 2008- 9- 10) I would get bogged
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Slim,
Are these the universes you have visited?:
John 14:1-3
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Pete or anyone else,
If there are any deaberrated, revised, edited, or redone versions of TROM I
would like you to tell me where they all are?
All of them.
Thanks,
David
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Slim,
1. Suppose some deranged person is hell bent on attacking you, even destroying
you.
Are you effected by such?
Can you disable them?
Can you delete their postulates?
Or how do you deal with i
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Blood of Jesus discovered and analyzed and found to have only 24 chromosomes;
23 from mother and 1 from Father:
http://www.project.nsearch.com/profiles/blogs/the-blood-of-jesus-found-on-the-ark-of-the-cov
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Slim,
1. According to the Oahspe book, a very interesting channeled book, the
highest spiritual energy diet is fruit and nuts from the tallest trees
possible. The higher off the ground the food grows,
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From
a reader of the following message on asparagus:
When I was in the USN I was
stationed in Key West, FL. I worked at the clinic
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Paul,
To be pan determined:
A co worker of the author of the book "The God Particle" was interviewed on
TV.
He was questioned about the title.
He said it was chosen because it was a title that w
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There are lots of your kind here Tim.
We are proud to be called Squirrels.
Being a squirrel means you have enough intelligence to question and think and
evaluate and create for yourself.
If you are no
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Pete,
I never heard of such an event.
Where did it hit?
Where is the crater?
Where is the evidence?
David
Canada
> From: pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com
> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:24:56 -
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dd
A Thought to Ponder from The Urantia Book
"Without
mind in some phase there would be n
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Say it:
Remembered today for his collections of Uncle Remus tales, Joel Chandler Harris
spent 25 years as an associate editor of the Atlanta Constitution. During that
time, he counseled his colleague
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Solid matter is a product of a postulate, as well as everything else in MEST.
David
> From: t...@equityboost.com
> To: trom@lists.newciv.org
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:48:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: [T
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> Special 2 1/2 hour Teleseminar this Saturday, August 25
> Beyond Wanting Approval
>
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Paul,
I think all this tech talk on havingness is bullshit.
Pure bullshit.
It goes on forever and I have less now than I had when I started.
I have been discussing with and
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I
am looking for a good powerful assistant writer, ghost writer, ebook
publisher, ecommerce website builder and internet marketer.
The ideal person would be an accomplished liberal Christia
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There is something wrong with this list soft ware.
It does not stick to form.
When I received it, it wasn't as I had sent it.
It landed up at the very bottom of the entire email.
Here it is ag
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Aleister Crowley: The Other Loch Ness Monster
David
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> Hi Martin,
>
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:11 AM, trom-
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Pete,
Hi David,
P. Thanks for telling me how you feel.
D. I do not feel.
Feelings are usually irrational ( based on bank or and an aberrated GE via
bank) and is/are a function of those
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I know.
David
> From: pti...@proftitleserv.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 10:09:16 -0700
> To: trom@lists.newciv.org
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Solopsism to David
>
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Pete,
You talk like Dennis is God or an absolute authority on clearing, creation and
almost everything else.
Or in other words you deify him.
That is the same as most scngists do.
In other words yo
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Regarding solopsism:
Interesting word, concept and state of mind.
It was either Dennis or Filbert who defined stupidity as the inability to
evaluate data.
And ignorance as being the lack of data t
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Yes, Paul, I would say that they are perceived as mass, because postulates
are causitive.
And they could collect charge or cause ridges due to being in conflict with
universal law or someone else's p
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>
>
> Postulates are solid matter. My postulate or yours are not different in that
> respect other than location in space and time and solidity. We can create
> them to greater or lesser
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Thanks Paul,
Very excellent and useful points made.
Thanks again,
David
> From: pti...@proftitleserv.com
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:10:12 -0700
> To: trom@lists.newciv.org
> Subject: [TROM1] Help wa
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Dear Trommers,
I have a legal problem as explained below:
Is there anyone with any law back ground or just good old common sense that
can help me solve this problem:
(Note: I posted this question on
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It occurred to me over the last little while that the prayer rituals of
fundamental religions that are supposed to be done every morning when you get
out of bed and and before bed, and when ever else, e
fic events of experience that only we will encounter and
> therefore only will we have data, our own data which we have gathered
> and then conclusions thereupon if we so desire. Nothing wrong with
> any of that.
>
> Paul/Level 5 in progress
>
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 5:36
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Thanks Paul,
But
That sounds like a good sales pitch.
If we were tied down with cotton lint, I think most of us would be free.
Even LRH himself, did not resolve his case.
Talk is cheap.
Let
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If you took an honest look at what is going on in the world, ( an impartial
view from the space station and in a state where you can see and hear and
understand everything that is going on on earth) you
at
you must be living in a cave not to see them everywhere.
On 7/24/2012 3:05 PM, David M. Pelly wrote:
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>
> I had first wrote this up and posted it on Ifachat and t
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I had first wrote this up and posted it on Ifachat and thought it would be good
to post it here too:
Here is the root cause of the mass killings...
(I quoted LRH from Science of survival an
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Hi Paul,
You also make some good points.
Notice that I wrote:
Mike posted this on Ifachat, I thought it had some good data, so I
> > thought to post it here:
I didn't feel like dissecting it and
e TROM list and send them
to me. i will forward them to Flemming.
Thanks
Pete
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 22, 2012, at 6:23 AM, "David M. Pelly" wrote:
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> Pete,
>
> There i
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Pete,
There is something wrong with this "mail - list program".
I get everything ( all data) bunched up and packed together.
That means, if I make a clear, well spaced format, and post it, it appears o
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Mike posted this on Ifachat,
I thought it had some good data, so I thought to post it here:
LRH: Begin
"As Man all too easily specializes in stops he tends to stress what
SHOULDN'T be done.
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Martin,
ROTFLMAO
Like is said in the bible;
Be in this world, but not of it.
David
> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:55:23 +0200
> From: msfos...@mweb.co.za
> To: trom@lists.newciv.org
> Subject: Re: [TRO
r it is hidden and protected.
And you will never find the truth if you do not ask to be taught the truth.
If you ask, your teacher will appear only when you are ready.
David
Martin
On 20 July 2012 17:36, David M. Pelly wrote:
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Leoncio
Your posts are helpful.
Thanks.
David
From: lsmadr...@selecom.com.br
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 10:33:45 -0300
To: trom@lists.newciv.org
Subject: Re: [TROM1] Hello
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Hubbard said: Scientology is the study of knowledge and the science of knowing
how to know.
I have never heard any one ask the question: Know what?
The only plausible right answer is: Knowing how t
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Mark Shreffler who left the cos on July 4 ( USA Independence day) has posted a
introduction to the tone scale.
He was one of cos' most ardent promoters. He worked in the WISE div. in
Florida.
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In other words, what you are saying Paul, is, as long as one plays life goals
he could be in nirvana.
If you play non life goals, then you create en-nirvana.
(I just invented a new word.)
Non lif
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Slim
RE: your post on Ip lectures and paranoid definition
You are not being honest. You have witholds.
You are continously contradicting yourself or misrepresenting yourself and
misleading
a twin now.
David
Hi David
hope you are feeling better. are you using TROM or something else to handle
this manifestation?
Sincerely
Pete
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:39 PM, "David M. Pelly" wrote:
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> > And we are all talking through our hats, because we are all still
> > effect of what ever the cause is.
> >
> > If we knew the truth, the truth would set us free, from being
> > effect. And we
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It occurred to me that you would check me on the word "mind".
Then I thought to let it go.(at the least it would stir up some
agitation and we don't learn much without agitation)
Becaus
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You mean?:
In other words, or more precise words:
Nirvana is a state of mind or a state of consciousness or a state of existence.
You could also use the word "level" instead of "state".
Right?
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I want to add that that mass permeates my entire head, causing some electrical
activity.
Especially when I close my eyes and get into it.
David
From: david.pe...@hotmail.ca
To: trom@lists.newci
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Over an hour ago, I either got some bad energy sent to me or I got some bad
energy restimulated in me.
I haven't had this happen, this intensely for quite some time.
If it is the same thing. I a
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Collen,
You wrote.
, even though his accusations are undetailed.
Where or what undetailed?
Thank you,
And you are welcome.
David.
love,
colleen
y the carrot on the stick, fanaticism, and faith.
That's why all these systems discourage doubt and objective criticism.
On 7/1/2012 5:09 PM, David M. Pelly wrote:
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> Pete,
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Colleen,
I don't think you have read or followed all my posts.
I said several times that I was only able to do the little TROM I did, and
that was mostly L2 , after I learned some about the Sedona Met
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I thought this would be fitting to post here, at this time.
At least see it as a metaphor, with several messages hidden or implied,from
a scn and trom viewpoint
I get a daily mailing of bibl
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Harry,
I acknowledge your post.
Thanks,
Remain Blessed,
David
> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 21:45:20 -0800
> From: happyha...@inbox.com
> To: trom@lists.newciv.org
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] To tell it th
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Pete,
I also tend to be very left brained, reason, logic, scientific minded and
engineering oriented.
(As a matter of fact, anything other than using reason to figure out and
understand somethin
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And the goal of the thetan is to attain "God realization".
I haven't read much real "eastern spirituality and philosophy".
But I have read some, especially some what I would call second hand stuff, o
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Colleen,
I just thought of a more succinct ( or basic) answer to your question on
"Dennis' data on fighting the evolutionary desires of the human ape".
(Or what ever the exact wording is)
I think he
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Colleen,
Your question is more complex, or of greater magnitude, than I think you
realize.
I would say that at least for one thing, the primary clue or idea lies in the
article:
How to study a
nity under 500,000,000
in perpetual balance with nature."
Interesting? Yes, in a psychotic way. Limiting the
population of the earth to
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I should of explained why I sent this post on the Georgian Guidestones.
I posited it as one of the solutions to the problems of the world as was being
discussed here.
The guide stones have an interesti
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I happen to learn about this yesterday.
I think I vaguely recall hearing about it in passing, some time ago, but if I
did it sure did not register.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
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Colleen
What is a datum of comparable magnitude to "impartiality" in Scientology?
David
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 14:37:46 -0400
From: cygnifi...@gmail.com
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Subject: [TROM1] Power
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