Re: [TruthTalk] differences

2003-03-13 Thread Slade Henson
  I currently fellowship in a home. For more info, I suggest reading the book "Constantine's Sword" by James Carroll. (C) 2001 ISBN 0-618-21908-0, Mariner Books. In the process of reading this novelization, you will begin to see why wicked Constantine did what he did and his spirit lives on.

RE: [TruthTalk] differences

2003-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Amen, Terry! I hope to hear more soon.  This was my experience in a church at home also.  Such places are few and far between. Izzy   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL P

[TruthTalk] differences

2003-03-13 Thread Terry Clifton
Izzy:   You asked about differences, comparing the institutional church with home church.  They are many, and I cannot think of them all at one setting, but I will point out the most obvious.   If you study the New Testament, you will never find reference to a building fund, or even to a buil

Re: [TruthTalk] Pagan Christianity

2003-03-13 Thread Terry Clifton
Marlin:   If he in fact did get it, it is more than interesting.   Terry  ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, March 13, 2003 17:12:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Pagan Christianity   My package had a return address.  It is interesting t

Re: [TruthTalk] Pagan Christianity

2003-03-13 Thread Marlin Halverson
My package had a return address.  It is interesting that he never mentions the one contemporary book that is most like his own. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:02 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Pagan

RE: [TruthTalk] The "Detective"

2003-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Slade,    I must say I’m happy to hear you are writing about the Messiah now, rather than about Dungeons & Dragons.  I had to forbid my sons to play that game! You obviously have a checkered past. But once a computer geek, always a computer geek! J    Izzy (Secret writer of drippy rom

RE: [TruthTalk] Pagan Christianity

2003-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry,   My happiest “church” memories are of a time when I worshipped in a home church. It was the most genuine type of church I ever experienced. More intimate. Children all present amongst us. Real meeting of the needs of one another.  Real utilization of our spiritual gifts. Unfortuna

Re: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath

2003-03-13 Thread Slade Henson
I like his email address!!! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 March, 2003 14:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath By the way, Terry—what does your email address imply about you Izzy   --

Re: [TruthTalk] The "Detective"

2003-03-13 Thread Slade Henson
I am a former computer geek, former author for the D&D game, former boat-mechanic, former glazier (worker of glass and windows), former "facilitator" of a Messianic fellowship in southern Wisconsin. I'm a lot of formers, but nothing along the lines of a gumshoe. Sorry. My life has not been T

RE: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath

2003-03-13 Thread Terry Clifton
"Booger" is a nick name my uncle gave me.  Not one that I am particularly proud of, but I have been called worse.  When the service provider said that I had to have an identifying address, Booger was the first word to come to mind.. ...probably says something about my mental condition.  

Re: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers

2003-03-13 Thread Slade Henson
Thank you for the welcome. I've been a member since 02/23/03 13:11 PM. I've just been silent, working on a book and hoping to get involved at some point. As far as your gently posed question, you should ask your Judge. His name is YHVH. Unlike us, He is not a liar. -- slade - Original Mess

Re: [TruthTalk] Numbers

2003-03-13 Thread ttxpress
ftr, i'm trying to affirm your wisdom lately, DavidM, in showing some restraint on this issue; am partic glad to see you working at 'error correction'--i.e., even error correcting your own posts; not a big deal, though, i've had to do mine, too   also, i'm not putting it past the biblical Re

Re: [TruthTalk] Numbers

2003-03-13 Thread ttxpress
but, God is still the real thing--eh??    * 666!!>    On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:51:15 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>It appears to me that the chapters before and after Psalm 118 are not >as reported in that email. 

Re: [TruthTalk] Numbers

2003-03-13 Thread ttxpress
great post, David! thx.   On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:40:19 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Hi Gary.  We were talking about numbers, so I thought I would pass > this along for your consideration..

RE: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath

2003-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
    -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath   Izzy wrote: > David, You are going to confuse me if you > don't diffe

RE: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath

2003-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
By the way, Terry—what does your email address imply about you Izzy   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath

RE: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath

2003-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
I thought that was a song about Coke. Terry is just bragging about his age because he knows that age brings wisdom. J Izzy   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTE

RE: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers

2003-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hi Slade!  What a cool name; are you a detective? Izzy   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers   The Shab

Re: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath

2003-03-13 Thread ttxpress
Hi Terry :-) I didn't perceive you as aged..actually wonder if you might be a (closet?) U2 fan(?) They have a great! song about this subject, called _The Real Thing_   On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:08:34 -0600 "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ..the God of the Jews [i]s the real thi

Re: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers

2003-03-13 Thread David Miller
Slade wrote: > It was not the breaking of Shabbat that caused his stoning, > it was the INTENTIONAL SIN that killed him. Welcome to TruthTalk, Slade. Are you saying that breaking Shabbat is not a capital offense? How do you understand the following verses? Exo 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath th

Re: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath

2003-03-13 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote: > David, You are going to confuse me if you > don't differentiate between whether you are > talking about today (NT times) or OT times. > I assumed you were talking about today. > Are these all going to be trick questions? LOL. I did not mean to make it a "trick question." The fact t

[TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers

2003-03-13 Thread Slade Henson
The Shabbat breaker in Numbers was stoned. One thing you must NOT forget is that he paraded himself and his sin before the whole congregation. Reread the text and discover this truth for yourself. It was not the breaking of Shabbat that caused his stoning, it was the INTENTIONAL SIN that kil

RE: [TruthTalk] Pagan Christianity

2003-03-13 Thread Terry Clifton
We changed our way of living slightly about three years ago when we gave up on the institutional church and formed a home church.  If you are interested in what the differences are, let me know and I will explain.  If you aren't interested, don't feel bad.  Most people aren't.   Terry  --

Re: [TruthTalk] Numbers

2003-03-13 Thread David Miller
It appears to me that the chapters before and after Psalm 118 are not as reported in that email. I count 595 chapters prior to Psalm 118, and 593 chapters after Psalm 118. That email said that Psalm 118 was the center chapter, with 594 chapters before and 594 chapters after it. Can someone else

RE: [TruthTalk] Pagan Christianity

2003-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, So does this change the way you will live in any way? Izzy   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Pagan Christianity   The

RE: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath

2003-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
  Izzy wrote: > I'm not sure I understand your question.  Of course both > of them are guilty of breaking the 10 commandments.   Are you sure?  The law commands that the Sabbath breaker be put to death by stoning.  Therefore, only the Sabbath Breaker is guilty.  The other guy carried

[TruthTalk] Numbers

2003-03-13 Thread David Miller
Hi Gary. We were talking about numbers, so I thought I would pass this along for your consideration. Is it significant or just an interesting coincidence? I haven't checked it out yet myself to make sure it is true, but if it is true, it is definitely interesting and suggestive that God might ha