[TruthTalk] Do I have to observe Saturday worship in order to be right with God? (Glenn, 04/03/2002)

2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
First of all, by the witness of two or three, truth is established. I have heard you say a couple of times that Marlin compared present day Christians to Hitler. Then for weeks refused to condemn Hitler. Now, it's my belief that the two or three witness must be different mouths (which means

[TruthTalk] Annuit Coeptus... Novus Ordo Seclorum

2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
  ANNUIT COEPTUS means "He has favored our undertakings" (adapted from Vergil's Aeneid IX: 625)   NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM means "A new order of the ages" (adapted from Vergil's Eclogues IV: 5)     - Original Message - From: Marlin Halverson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Th

Re: [TruthTalk] Glenn. Hello, Glenn?

2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
So glad you are clearing things up.  However, I understand Marlin to say if we don't observe Saturday worship we are not going to heaven or we are not in the will of God.  Marlin is sneaky.  He compared present day Christians to Hitler.  Then for weeks refused to condemn Hitler.  Now, for you.  D

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2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
What about the "church in the wilderness" from Acts 7:38 (KJV)? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 03 April, 2003 22:28 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Check out ServantEvangelism.com Glenn wrote: > The death, burial, and resu

Re: [TruthTalk] Glenn. Hello, Glenn?

2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
HalleluYAH!!!   Glenn, you've hit the nail on the head!! There are NO JUDAIZERS in the TruthTalk forum because no one has ever said we need to "go back under the Mosaic Law in order to be saved." David has never said that. Chris has never said that. Izzy has never said it. I have never said

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2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
If war goes to other Muslim nations, then I believe President Bush is doing what God wants done.  The end of the world is coming one day.     I agree, Glenn. Whatever this nation does it will be a tool YHVH will use to fulfill the end of the world we have created.     - Original Messag

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2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
Terry.   A friend of mine did a teaching a few years back using Isaiah 17. He said Damascus and Oman are soon to be destroyed. He thought it would be by Yisrael. However, if his interpretation of Isaiah's prophesy (and another I can't recall at the moment) is correct, perhaps it could be the

Re: [TruthTalk] Glenn. Hello, Glenn?

2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
David, your question is disingenuous.   Moses lived under the law and Jesus lived under the law UNTIL his death, burial, and resurrection.  The Bible says we are not under the law now.  Judaizers are trying to teach Christians must go back under the Mosaic law in order to go to heaven. Glenn wr

Re: [TruthTalk] Speeding is not sin?

2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
David, again you are not being honest here. Here alone is proof you are not perfect.   I don't know of any Christian on this earth that teaches the doctrine that not putting enough sugar in your tea is a sin that will send you to hell. David, David, you are not coming clean.  I am pointing out you

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2003-04-03 Thread David Miller
Glenn wrote: > The death, burial, and resurrection of Christ > had not happened yet.  The New Testament church > was started in Acts 2 on the Day of Pentecost > at 9:00 AM. Are you sure? Can you define what you mean by "New Testament church"? What was it called when Christ's disciples gathe

RE: [TruthTalk] Glenn. Hello, Glenn?

2003-04-03 Thread David Miller
Glenn wrote: > I am with Jesus on this one. You can be with Moses. Glenn, are Jesus and Moses on opposite sides? When did this happen? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought

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2003-04-03 Thread David Miller
Slade wrote: > It seems you are confusing terms. Manmade laws created > by governments to rule over their subjects are laws we > must do according to Scripture. ... Manmade rules created > by the Religious Intelligencia that are given the same > credence as Scripture, on the other hand, are a c

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
I don't go by my feelings, Terry.  I go by the Bible.  When I go by my feelings I am wrong almost every time.  I lose my perfection that way.  LOL Seriously, my prayers are with your family member in the current war. You are free to believe whatever makes you feel good. Terry I don't think yo

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
I don't watch CNN.  It is full of liberal lies.  That explains your information is unreliable. You will  lose your salvation watching CNN.  Furthermore, it is the unpardonable sin.   You can't get resaved after watching it for 7 days.  It's in the new Scriptures from God.  Praise God I can't lose

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2003-04-03 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 4/3/2003 10:00:19 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but it was on CNN.  If you watch long enough, they usually repeat all the news at least three times.  Terry CNN and ABC are usually too liberal for me

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2003-04-03 Thread Terry Clifton
You are free to believe whatever makes you feel good.   Terry  ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 03, 2003 09:50:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]  I don't think you can reduce President Bush's personal commitment to Christ to Fr

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2003-04-03 Thread Terry Clifton
I did not catch the names, but it was on CNN.  If you watch long enough, they usually repeat all the news at least three times.   Terry   ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 03, 2003 09:41:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]  What I

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2003-04-03 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 4/3/2003 9:42:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He is a Freemason.  He bows down to a worshipful master.  You cannot serve two masters. Many Christians are Free Masons  and don't realize it is not a "Christian organization"    My husband was until he left

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
I don't think you can reduce President Bush's personal commitment to Christ to Free Masonry.  I don't know if he is a Free Mason or not, but if he is, that doesn't mean he has sworn allegiance to Masonry above Jesus Christ.  That doesn't mean Masonry is a master to him.  Now I am not defending Maso

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2003-04-03 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 4/3/2003 8:16:24 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It will be interesting to see how many people still think Bush is a Christian six months from now. People who have been in his presence and have personally heard him speak have no doubt about his Christianity.

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
What I am asking you is WHO is sending out this information to you that the President is planning on attacking many other Muslim nations?  You didn't give any names.  I am looking for names.  You are not alone in your opinion.  Some of the better known preachers and most American Christians think

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2003-04-03 Thread Terry Clifton
Gore is an idiot.  That does not make Bush above suspicion.  Simply the lesser of two evils.  Evidently you disagree with Jesus about being able to serve two masters? Terry - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9

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2003-04-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, good grief, I hate Conspiracy Theories.  If he isn’t a true Believer I’ll eat the Constitution. I think President Bush is an answer to prayer—I thank God for putting him in Office every day.  The devil fought SO hard to keep him out! Consider the alternative (Remember Tree-Hugger Gore??

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2003-04-03 Thread Terry Clifton
Izzy: I hope I don't have anything in common with liberals.   There is something, call it a theory, or evidence, or suspicion, that a group called the illuminati intend to rule the world.  How real this is I do not know.  These people are supposedly hungry for wealth and power, and are alread

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2003-04-03 Thread Terry Clifton
Sorry Marlin, I only speak English.   Terry  ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 03, 2003 08:53:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]   What do you know of the NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM? and ANNUIT COEPTUS?   - Original Message -

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2003-04-03 Thread Terry Clifton
You are not alone in your opinion.  Some of the better known preachers and most American Christians think the same way.  I hope you are right.  I am afraid you are wrong.  He is a Freemason.  He bows down to a worshipful master.  You cannot serve two masters.   Put an X on your calendar over

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2003-04-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
    I wouldn’t mind seeing a stray missle hit Arafat on the head. Terry, I would be interested in what you mean by new world order, and why you think Bush is trying to establish this.  I just got an email written by a fomenting Liberal accusing him of the same thing. (I would think

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2003-04-03 Thread Marlin Halverson
What do you know of the NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM? and ANNUIT COEPTUS?   - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 9:15 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] If any of you have been glued to the tube, watching the news thi

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
I have personally spent some time with President Bush in the White House.  I came away with the distinct belief that he is a man of God; not just a nominal Christian.  I believe he is a dedicated Christian.  He is personally desires to take Christ to the whole world.  I believe him when he says it.

[TruthTalk]

2003-04-03 Thread Terry Clifton
If any of you have been glued to the tube, watching the news this evening (Our granson is fighting in Iraq), you probably have already heard this.  People close to G.W. Bush are talking about extending the war to other countries, and one of these people is suggesting that war with all the mu

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
A nursing mother is not discrete in other countries.  I have done missionary work in other countries and a nursing mother doesn't get a second look.unless it's a dirty ole man. Look again, Izzy. No insult was intended. A nursing mother is discreet as I'm sure you were... -- slade

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2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
Look again, Izzy. No insult was intended. A nursing mother is discreet as I'm sure you were... -- slade - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 03 April, 2003 18:15 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Check out ServantEvangelism.com EX

Re: [TruthTalk] The Handwriting of Ordinances and Other Stuff

2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
Here's the deal, Dave.   There are multiple ways to view the same passage. We see this with the life of Yosef/Joseph as it relates to the life of Messiah. Genesis Chapter 5 relates to the goal and work of the Messiah. Yeshua can be seen in the Tabernacle. This is only a few examples of how a

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2003-04-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
EXCUSE ME--you are slandering someone who is just an innocent Nursing Mother!!! :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Check out ServantEv

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2003-04-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Yes it is, compared to you, Glenn. J Izzy   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Check out ServantEvangelism.com   Sure, he took a

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2003-04-03 Thread ttxpress
*Sadducees*?   On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:35:05 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || Acts 23:6-9.  This shows you can have your doctrine right (*Pharisees* believed in the resurrection) and still be condemned by Jesus.  gary ottoson * http://ozg2003.blogspot.com

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2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
Sorry Glenn. It wasn't Acts 5:5 (though I thank you for the kind word you gave. It was very uplifting... again). I meant Acts 15:5. In referring to Acts 23:6-9, I refer specifically to Paul's testimony of "Brethren, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees"       Do not hit the REPLY button when r

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
Sure, he took a whip and turned over the tables.  That's pretty gently all right. Jesus was much more gentle and diplomatic about it. J Izzy

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2003-04-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
David is trying to regain some order here; but things are way too out of hand already. :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Check out Se

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2003-04-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
David is trying to regain some order here; but things are way too out of hand already. :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Check out Se

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2003-04-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Jesus was much more gentle and diplomatic about it. J Izzy   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Check out ServantEvangelism.com

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
This is still under the law.  The death, burial, and resurrection of Christ had not happened yet.  The New Testament church was started in Acts 2 on the Day of Pentecost at 9:00 AM.  Sounds like he is condemning them here too.  Glenn... you say "He told the Pharisees they were of their father the

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
Are you disagreeing with Jesus? Oops, you're right. My bad! Paul hadn't written 1 Timothy 2:9-10 yet so bashfulness, modesty, reverence, and self control for women it didn't apply. Glenn... you say "He told the Pharisees they were of their father the devil" a lot. Could you explain Matt 23:2-3;

Re: [TruthTalk] Glenn. Hello, Glenn?

2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
I repeat.  I am with Jesus on this one.  You can be with Moses.  Moses didn't die for my sins.  The law didn't die for my sins.  I am with Jesus on this one.  I will not repent from Jesus.  Praise God I am not under the law.  I have a much higher standard. This verse below you are quoting to m

Re: [TruthTalk] The Handwriting of Ordinances and Other Stuff

2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
I will comment on the rest later, but for now I would like to comment here... > LOL. I was with you right up until you posted your interpretation of > this verse. I see apostles as living ministers, not "New Testament > WRITINGS" and prophets also as living in the church, not "the BOOKS of > Jos

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2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
Oops, you're right. My bad! Paul hadn't written 1 Timothy 2:9-10 yet so bashfulness, modesty, reverence, and self control for women it didn't apply.   Glenn... you say "He told the Pharisees they were of their father the devil" a lot. Could you explain Matt 23:2-3; Acts 5:5, 23:6-9? -

[TruthTalk] Glenn. Hello, Glenn?

2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
Glenn, by the words of your own mouth you show the darkness in your heart. "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me." Repent, Glenn. The Kingdom of God is at hand!  Without Moses, you have NO MESSIAH, Glenn. Your posts truly amaze me. Do you prayerfully consi

RE: [TruthTalk] The Handwriting of Ordinances and Other Stuff

2003-04-03 Thread David Miller
Slade wrote: > I would like to give you my understanding > of the Handwriting of Ordinances you mentioned > and see if it jives with your understanding. I appreciate you making to effort to understand passages like this one. I have observed too often on TruthTalk that when a passage that seems t

Re: [TruthTalk] I wonder ...

2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
I'm with Jesus on this one.  You can be with Moses.  Jesus is alive.  Moses is dead and the law fulfilled.  Judaizers go straight to hell fire and don't pass go or collect $200.00.  IF you and Slade are without sin, you two can cast the stones.  Slade has already implied he would.  I am sorry you

Re: [TruthTalk] I wonder ...

2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
I am with Jesus on this one.  You can be with Moses. ... does Glenn ever get anything right?

[TruthTalk] I wonder ...

2003-04-03 Thread little children of Jesus Christ
... does Glenn ever get anything right?   - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04/03/2003 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Check out ServantEvangelism.com NO WAY.  Jesus whipped the Pharisees and religious leaders.  He told the woman at the we

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
NO WAY.  Jesus whipped the Pharisees and religious leaders.  He told the woman at the well, "Neither do I condemn thee, go and sin no more".  He told the Pharisees they were of their father the devil. JC should be whipping the whore on the right, don't ya think? -- slade

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2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
I messed up on it, though. It should read "Emet Ayin Shaal" which means "Truth Not Required." With many of the posts on TruthTalk, I thought it strangely appropriate. -- slade - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 03 April, 2

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2003-04-03 Thread Slade Henson
JC should be whipping the whore on the right, don't ya think? -- slade - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 03 April, 2003 10:43 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Check out ServantEvangelism.com > Gary, because you asked, a

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2003-04-03 Thread David Miller
Interesting logo there, Slade. I like the Hebrew added, but you really ought to give us a Hebrew lesson here. I recognize amet = truth, but I don't really understand the phrase "shal ayin," and no time right now to investigate. If you care to give us insight into the Hebrew you have added, I wou

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2003-04-03 Thread GJTabor
It's OK for Jesus, but it's not OK for Glenn.  Gary, because you asked, ala El Greco: http://home.attbi.com/~cpl2602/jc.jpg

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2003-04-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Gary, because you asked, ala El Greco: http://home.attbi.com/~cpl2602/jc.jpg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Check out ServantEvangelism.com Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:16:26 -0700 hey slade--let's see a logo/pic of JC kickin' butt--

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2003-04-03 Thread ttxpress
hey slade--let's see a logo/pic of JC kickin' butt--maybe work in some flame for Iz with a little flesh and blood for me   On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 06:36:17 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Really excellent! Maybe you could add a few flames? Izzy   -Original Mess

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2003-04-03 Thread ttxpress
I bet JC's glad you two never married   what th' heck, Iz, Gen Franks would enjoy your company   On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 06:34:12 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Didn’t Jesus? Izzy   -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2003-04-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Really excellent! Maybe you could add a few flames? Izzy   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Check out ServantEvangelism.com  

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2003-04-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Didn’t Jesus? Izzy   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Everyone Has Sinned Inadvert