Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-29 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, You mentioned in an earlier post, which appears below, " Are you aware the Catholic Church destroyed approximately 80 religious works/ gospels when compiling the Bible.? ". Where did you get this figure? I do not believe it is factual. If you are basing this statement on the December 22 ar

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/xpress

2003-12-29 Thread irebukeu
Ruben responds below: Xpress: Dean--kindly notice the (original) smile -->:) [and if you haven't done so, read Kevin's post, today, about JC 'stood and cried' (Jn 7:37)--ftr, (from a poet, not a preacher per se, an important thing to notice about JC is that he had mastered the art of communicati

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Kevin wrote: > The devil is identified as an Angel of light in the Bible and the > book Mormon Doctrine. Blaine Writes: I knew that was going to be your theme song, Kevin. Again, I ask, if you know the "answers," why even ask me the questions? Sorry, but I am not going to allow myself to g

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread ttxpress
    On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:38:12 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   I wouldn't be too quick to mock Ruben-for I believe him to be one of the great men of our age-as a matter of fact I would fear to mock him at all.     your respect, above, is similar to the res

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: I read it!! It does not even begin to cover what was removed and/or changed from the Bible, but it is a good start. It does do a good job of pointing out the fundamental FACT that the Bible as it is today is the product of centuries of tinkering, deleting and changing. The big surpris

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Hi Kevin, You haven't answered my question, and you obviously already have the "answers" to yours. I seriously doubt I can change your mind on much of anything. Ask Perry, or maybe Ruben.. Like yourself, they already "know" everything about the LDS Church. Question: Are you a former memb

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Your posts keep going to an attachment. My program will not even copy isolated sentences, words or whatever. It takes too much time to try to answer you posts. What are you doing? Yours are the only ones to do this. Blaine -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, t

RE: [TruthTalk] possible spam

2003-12-29 Thread Charles Perry Locke
I add that the bloodline of Jesus was through Judah, the son of Jacob and Leah, his first and lawful wife. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [TruthTalk] possible spam >Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:14:14 -0500 > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] [TT] Personages?

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Lectures on Faith were originally written in 1834 as part of a curriculum for the School of the Prophets in Kirtland, Ohio. They were included in the original (1835) Doctrine and Covenants printed in Kirtland, and constituted the "Doctrine" portion of that book. Since you no longer have these p

Re: [TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
PHIL 1 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely... What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.   Is preaching Ch

Re: [TruthTalk] Is DaveH a fend?

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
use a web based email for lists such as TT. It gives you additional storage for free. 4 MB free from yahoo. Does not clog up your regular email box, with list traffic. You can check your mail with mail2web.com & delete, before downloading to your PCDean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:       --

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] possible spam

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy wrote: They were breaking God's law. Read it in Deuteronomy 17:15 -19. Note, the king was not to multiply horses, wives, or gold. Blaine writes: I think this passage (Deut 17:15-17) is speaking of adding non-Israelite wom

[TruthTalk] possible spam

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy wrote: "Moses and Abraham both had two wives but not at the same time." Blaine writes: Abraham married Sarai, and later, at Sarai's request, took Hagar, who gave birth to Ishmael. Ishmael was in his 20's when Isaac was born to Sarai, so yes, he was married to bot

[TruthTalk] Pagan Wolf

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
So Dean, Is it your philosophy that the "end justifies the means?" From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wrote: Are you still into the martial arts Dean and if so how is there no conflict between that and your Christian beliefs? Bruce Lee supposedly had a warrior within him whereas we are to

[TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
Wrong Kevin, It's God who GIVES the increase, so without the work of the Holy Spirit there is none. Flesh ministry produces fleshly results that also accrue to Satans account.         From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is your business. However, I do think that someone who does not lead

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
> > Don't hold your breath, Kevin--just answering DavidM's questions, and > some of Izzy's took my allotted time for today. Dean writes: I don't think David put a limit on the replies.It was only considered. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may k

RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Pagan Wolf

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/25/2003 5:26:26 AM Subject: Fw: [TruthTalk] Pagan Wolf Are you still into the martial arts Dean and if so how is there no conflict between that and your Christian beliefs?  Bruce Lee supposedly had a warrior within him

RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
> > God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. -Voltaire, > > philosopher (1694-1778) Voltaire-also know as the great mocker of God. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread Terry Clifton
Sorry to have to break this to you Blaine, but there are no degrees of lost.  You are either saved or lost.  Almost does not count .  The good news is that even though the billy goat has no choice, you do. Terry   Blaine wrote:   How lost would I have to be in order to be "lost as a Billy go

Re: [TruthTalk] Is DaveH a fend?

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
I thank you for your reply and I believe you in this matter  -and if you note I did not accuse you but asked a question.     DAVEH:  No I don't, Dean.  Neither porn nor viruses are rare on the net.  I assure you that I have not (knowingly) sent you or Ruben anything other than what I posted pub

Re: [TruthTalk] Is DaveH a fend?

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/24/2003 8:49:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is DaveH a fend? Stop using Outlook! Windows is a drag also.   And what do you suggest as a replacement for these?

RE: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
> > Kevin & Jim: > We would all be better off taking care of our own accounts rather than > threatening the Mormons. It is not our place to judge and condemn them. > > Judy Dean writes: So Judy- if we remove the beam from our eye isn't it our duty to help others remove theirs. Matt.7:5 --

RE: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   You fall for the deception, I am surprised.    Dean writes: This also amazes me-It is the seducing spirit.They are all through the bible and I haven't read where they were removed-The Mormon church is infested with

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/29/2003 12:53:33 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy no, Dean--kindly notice the (original) smile -->:)  [and if you haven't done so, read Kevin's post, today, about JC 'stood and cried' (Jn 7:37)-

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
The devil is identified as an Angel of light in the Bible and the book Mormon Doctrine.   JSH 13 At length I came to the conclusion that I must either remain in darkness and confusion, or else I must do as James directs, that is, ask of God. I at length came to the determination to “ask of God,” co

Re: [TruthTalk] possible spam

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Judy wrote: "Moses and Abraham both had two wives but not at the same time." Blaine writes: Abraham married Sarai, and later, at Sarai's request, took Hagar, who gave birth to Ishmael. Ishmael was in his 20's when Isaac was born to Sarai, so yes, he was married to both at the same time. Mo

RE: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-29 Thread Dean Moore
>David writes: > Is the Mormon religion false? Yes it is. Is their faith misplaced? > Yes. David writes: > 1. Faith in Jesus Christ. Is this true or false doctrine? It is true. Dean writes: So tell me David-what the deal with this? You can't have it both ways. Care to explain this

Re: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Kevin wrote: Then why do you call Moroni an Angel of light? Blaine: Did I do that? If so, I suppose it was because Moroni appeared in a cloud of light, and had a message which enlightened JS. In JS's own words, "While I was thus in the act of calling upon God, I discovered a light appe

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
That was funny! ROTFL!! Blaine On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:51:44 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > this is _truth talk_ --what do you expect her to do, curtsy and kiss > your > pontifical ring? > > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 07:22:24 -0800 "irebukeu" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Is it me or h

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: This is definitely TRUTHtalk . . . On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:42:09 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ruben: > >>We..push..the God of the Bible. > > and he hates whoever you hate, eh? > > g ottoson :: http://poet235.com -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with sa

Re: [TruthTalk] possible spam

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Judy wrote: They were breaking God's law. Read it in Deuteronomy 17:15 -19. Note, the king was not to multiply horses, wives, or gold. Blaine writes: I think this passage (Deut 17:15-17) is speaking of adding non-Israelite women, who were not under the law of Moses, who might turn the heart

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread ttxpress
  this is _truth talk_ --what do you expect her to do, curtsy and kiss your pontifical ring?   On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 07:22:24 -0800 "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Is it me or have you noticed that Judy has argued with .. me

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Dean wrote: "He came unto his own first -and thru rejection-turns to the world-which included the Samaritans." Blaine wrote: The above is more of what I call Tradidtional Christian Belief System (TCBS). Jesus said he was not sent BUT to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (Matt 15:24).

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Terry writes: "Mormons say you can die as lost as a Billy goat and still be saved by someone being baptized for you." Blaine wrote: How lost would I have to be in order to be "lost as a Billy goat," Terry?On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being Totally Lost, and 1 being not lost at all--perfec

RE: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
I am not "quibbling" with BLASPHEMY LDS doctrine will send you to HELL & FAST! If Mormons believe in the Jesus of the Bible, I suppose I could convince you I am a girl scout!  The Mormon Jesus IS an imposter. PHONY Not a REAL person. The Swami that claims to BE the Jesus of the Bible. As long as he

RE: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
RIGHT ON!   They pay LIP service to the Bible. They absolutely DO NOT Believe it. It is NOT translated correctly. "as translated correctly"   Ever see the commecial on TV that says you have the Bible, but do you have the book of mormon another Testament of Christ.   Starts with a picture of the Bib

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is your business. However, I do think that someone who does not lead anyone to the Lord has NO BUSINESS telling others, who do, HOW TO do what they Themselves DO NOT DO!   yes, Some Plant Some Water Some Reap God gets the increase   Some DO NOThing Satan gets this increase![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot

RE: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-29 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DavidM, Mormons probably would turn to the Bible, but as I have said before, they redefine the words to fit the Book of Mormon and the D&C. They literally read the JS position into the Bible. For instance, Baptism for the dead. You know that there is one measly verse in which Paul mentions bapti

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
Why would you think it any of your business Kevin? Are you my judge?  I'm sure you don't even have an accurate count of what you believe to be the notches in your belt - since not all who come will stay.  Some plant, some water, others reap - but it is ultimately God who gives the increase.

RE: [TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-29 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: >> On the other hand, the Jesus they proclaim to be >> the Messiah is the Jesus of the Bible.  Is this >> true or false?  It is true.  Kevin wrote: > SATAN's BROTHER? That is blasphemous!  A created > being, NO not the messiah of the Bible. What are > you talking about? FA

Re: [TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
Judy:Why do you think everyone but you is 'hiding their light' Kevin?Is doing what you do the ONLY way to let your light shine? No I think tracting is great, door to door, whatever. But do something. I have asked you before how many in your lifetime you have led to the Lord, your  "way" You never a

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread irebukeu
Judy: I think you need to stop going into flights of fantasy and entertaining people with your humor Ruben and begin to deal with reality. These are peoples lives you are dealing with. What if you are hardening them against the truth? Kevin: And WORSE yet what if you NEVER even TOLD Them? Ruben:

Re: [TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread Kevin Deegan
I think you need to stop going into flights of fantasy and entertainingpeople with your humor Ruben and begin to deal with reality. Theseare peoples lives you are dealing with. What if you are hardeningthem against the truth? Kevin: And WORSE yet what if you NEVER even TOLD Them?   [EMAIL PROTECTED

[TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
Oophs! I didn't see this part... AGGGH! SCREAM? Are you trying to paint us as HYSTERICAL MANIACS? AGGGH! To SCREAM is "To speak in a heated HYSTERICAL manner" I am not some maniac SCREAMING some NONSENSE to get

[TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> EXCELLENT RUN DOWN KEVIN to those with eyes to see.. Why anyone would be blinded to this beyond me. This is evidence that the Church/Body has buried this talent of out door, out door preaching. Kevin: Yes He did go out to the public and LIFT UP His voice, He d

[TruthTalk] Saint Nick...what a guy!/Judy

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy: I guess the same way you see all Mormons headed for hell and publicly expose and ridicule them in front of their own temple, provoking them to wrath and glorying in same. Ruben: So you would have a problem with both Jeremiah and Jesus who knocked and cond

[TruthTalk] False teachers.

2003-12-29 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jim Webber hints at Degrees in hell 1 Sam Chapter 2 The sons of Eli were sons of Belial Sins against man HORIZONTAL, sins against God VERTICAL: V25 If one man sin against another, the judge shall judge him: but if a man sin against the LORD, who shall entrea