RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
He is 'saved when he stops serving himself and begins the quest for expressed community and all the benefits that are associated with community. Smithson Smithson, what if his chosen community is Al Qaeda? Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-08 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for the record, the following are some of those things I brought into this forum and where I am now. I would be interested in a similar contruct from any and all. Those words above were the first words of what I thought would be a list issues. Instead, writing

Re: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-08 Thread Bill Taylor
John wrote There is a very real sense, then, that salvation is ours to loose. I agree with you, John. However, it is only before we have once placed our faith in Jesus Christthat we may loseour salvation -- andso,this may be a fairly significant HOWEVER that we will need to work out. I

RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:14 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me John wrote There is a very real sense, then, that

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-08 Thread Slade Henson
I believe in hell fire. I believe there is a choice...Him or not. I believe the path is narrow and few find it. I wouldn't say I live and let live. I tend to "tell it like it is" in certain circumstances. However, I don't get in people's faces and scream at them about how they're whores and

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-08 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Hi, DaveH. I'll bet you are surprised that I responded to this email :-). Kevin is much more qualified than I to answer your question, but I thought that I would just recall some rather detailed posts I made some months, maybe a year, back. Many of our current members have probably joined

Re: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-08 Thread Judy Taylor
John also wrote: 1) that the condition of the heart carried more weight in the soteriological sense that any other consideration --- that salvation occured apart from obedience. The above is not true John because if it werethen salvation would have to happen apart fromthe Holy Spirit

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Cool testimony, Kay. Izzy So, do I live and let live? Maybe in a sense. I let people know I don't agree with their lifestyle and what I know God says about it. But I'm not the one making the decision of where they spend eternity. Do I get pushy? No. It didn't work with me,

RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
John also wrote: 1) that the condition of the heart carried more weight in the soteriological sense that any other consideration --- that salvation occured apart from obedience. The above is not true John because if it werethen salvation would have to

[TruthTalk] Moderator Report

2005-01-08 Thread Slade Henson
In the fourth quarter of 2004 (Oct-Dec), these are the ending numbers: A total of 5,891 messages passed our port. Clifton, Terry 334 Items5.67% of the total Halverson, Marlin7 Items0.12% of the total Hamm, Laura 63 Items1.07% of the total Hansen, Dave

[TruthTalk] Courtesy of Me as seen on KPTV12

2005-01-08 Thread Dave Hansen
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=35825item=6145256992rd=1ssPageName=WDVW -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF,

Re: [TruthTalk] Moderator Report

2005-01-08 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Hmm.I do see the problem here..We need to encourage Ben and Thomas to post more so the rest of us won't look like we are hogging most of the bandwidth! =-O BTWHow many TTers are currently subscribed? Slade Henson wrote: In the fourth quarter of 2004

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-08 Thread Dave Hansen
Charles Perry Locke wrote: Hi, DaveH. I'll bet you are surprised that I responded to this email :-). Kevin is much more qualified than I to answer your question, but I thought that I would just recall some rather detailed posts I made some months, maybe a year, back. Many of our

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-08 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Thanx for contributing to the discussion, Slade. Do you feel the below definitions you provided disqualifies LDS folks from being Christian? Slade Henson wrote: Mormons are generally nice people SADLY anyone that follows official Mormon Doctrine could not possibly be a CHRISTIAN

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-08 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Thank you for sharing that with us, Kay. It gives me a good insight as to your character, and I do appreciate it.as I'm sure will the other TTers as well. Slade Henson wrote: I believe in hell fire. I believe there is a choice...Him or not. I believe the path is narrow and

Re: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

2005-01-08 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/7/2005 9:40:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Water baptism: for me, the last of the great Mohicans as regards my works salvationist upbring. I believed that works AND faith