Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

DAVEH:   Hmm Kevin..your admission qualifies as your second error!  ;-) Kevin Deegan wrote: OK you win it takes 2 ERRORS to make it a PHONY! Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:  Would that apply to one who erroneously would suggest that all those who disag

Re: [TruthTalk] your job

I'll be five weeks in training (indoctrination) before I start teaching. Some of it will be helpful; most of it just learning how to do things the CCA way.   Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, July 25, 2

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

Mar 12.30 'And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment. I told Izzy that I thought there was a spiritual element included in Jesus' statement: "Follow me, and let the dead bury th

Re: [TruthTalk] your job

  First day on job?   How goes it. 

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

Who is your choice, Judy  -   me or G?   -Original Message-From: Bill Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:33:26 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death   Would someone else please step in and help Judy through this? I would ve

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

Perry wrote  >  The greater message here is that those who choose not to follow Jesus are "spiritually dead". That is, they do not have the Spirit of the Lord dwelling in them. The man he chose as an example wanted to tarry from following Jesus until his father passed away, thus putting his

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

Yes -- very good.   Could it be that if you are following the way of God in Christ,  you are as good as dead, hence "dead."  ??  -Original Message-From: Bill Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:32:15 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual d

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

The greater message here is that those who choose not to follow Jesus are "spiritually dead". That is, they do not have the Spirit of the Lord dwelling in them. The man he chose as an example wanted to tarry from following Jesus until his father passed away, thus putting his family above Jesus.

Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

  Blainerb:  Here is a closer approximation of the truth regards the translation of the BoM.  Kevin's version is, naturally, taken from his favorite anti-Mormon sites.     Book of Mormon Translation By Joseph Smith The original manuscript for Helaman 1:15-16 show

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

  Would someone else please step in and help Judy through this? I would very much appreciate it.      Thanks,   Bill From: Judy Taylor   Bill wrote: I actually don't think we've got that much left to argue about. Both you and Judy have said that you do not think o

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

Bill wrote  >  Jesus knows that his hearers will realize that dead people cannot bury dead people. Hence he knows that they will not be able to take his statement literally; they will have to conclude that the first death is representative of something other than yet similar to the second de

Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

In a message dated 7/25/2005 1:40:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to some (who?) of the EYEWITNESSES, Joe dropped a magical seer stone into his hat, then buried his face in the hat and proceeding to dictate the Book of Mormon. The actual words and l

Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

    Blainer:  Are you confusing Joseph Smith with God?  God was the one quoting scripture when He spoke to Joseph Smith.   He (God) is the same, yesterday, today, and forever, is my point.  He does not change.    In a message dated 7/24/2005 8:17:40 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PRO

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

   On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:46:06 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No blessing? Judy, such a comment demonstrates just how confused you really are.  On many occasions,   I have stated that if I were to speak of the many blessings from God,  I would make you jealous.  I will leave it at th

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:46:06 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No blessing? Judy, such a comment demonstrates just how confused you really are.  On many occasions,   I have stated that if I were to speak of the many blessings from God,  I would make you jealous.  I will leave it at that

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

    No blessing? Judy, such a comment demonstrates just how confused you really are.  On many occasions,   I have stated that if I were to speak of the many blessings from God,  I would make you jealous.  I will leave it at that.     why would you think we are trying to manipulate God?  j

Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

Kevin Deegan wrote: So as you can see Joe was a MEDIUM a Spirit Channeler The LDS Hymn should be changed to "We thank thee O God for a Warlock" Even the Book of Commandments syas Joe had power with the ROD, he was a diviner. "The gift of working with the rod" (Book of Commandments 7:3)

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

JD David is right, I have been trying to get you to see what you are doing and it is for your/Gary's sake as much as ours because not only does continual accusation wear us out - You/Gary will never reap blessing so long as you are allowing the adversary to use you this way.   On Mon, 25 Ju

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

  One additional comment.   Your post below justifies Judy's very bad behavior, ignoring the possibility that Gary was hoping that Judy (and then Linda) would see their actions as, in reality, an attempt to manipulate God.   "If I do this and that,  then I can expect God to do that and this."   Su

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

"Yes John, it is  "   means that I am right in my stated view above.    "But  ...  "  means that you are about to counter your own admission oerhaps.    "she is trying to help      and ...  correct his misbehaviour."   means that, in fact, you did counter yourself.    Not much I

[TruthTalk] Humanity of Jesus

From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>David Miller wrote:> But the point is that the spirit and soul can be > swept clean, but the physical body must be> reckoned dead and is not swept clean until the > resurrection.  Do you see this?   David: I have other things calling my attention right

Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

So as you can see Joe was a MEDIUM a Spirit Channeler The LDS Hymn should be changed to "We thank thee O God for a Warlock" Even the Book of Commandments syas Joe had power with the ROD, he was a diviner. "The gift of working with the rod" (Book of Commandments 7:3) The Book of Mormon was delivered

Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

OK you win it takes 2 ERRORS to make it a PHONY!Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:  Would that apply to one who erroneously would suggest that all those who disagree with the LDS Church are anti-Mormons?    :-) Kevin Deegan wrote: All it takes is ONE internal Inconsistency or ERROR to

Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death

Bill writes: I actually don't think we've got that much left to argue about. Both you and Judy have said that you do not think of "spiritual death" as literally being dead in the spirit. Hence you are both treating your concept as a metaphor, whether you realize it or not, and so I don't rea

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

JD wrote: > Judy writes this  YOU ARE ONE WITH THE ACCUSER > That sort of tripe is ad hom at its core.   Yes, John, it is, but you seem to overlook that she was responding to a personal insult.  If a man slugs another man, and the man he slugs then slugs back, is it really fair to focus all ou

Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'

DAVEH:  Would that apply to one who erroneously would suggest that all those who disagree with the LDS Church are anti-Mormons?    :-) Kevin Deegan wrote: All it takes is ONE internal Inconsistency or ERROR to make it a PHONY -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://w