Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
JD you are not keeping good company here - but then as the old adage goes "birds of a feather" You really should discuss what you know about and it is obvious that you know nothing about Rad Fundy's "Walking after the Spirit" or being a "doer of God's Word" rather than a deceived hearer only.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Well Mr. Teacher - what is the "right answer?" An opinion that is the same as yours?  Why can't we deal with a little reality here at the last.   On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:26:31 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And sure enough, you did this very thing  --   Be sure to answer with "the right

[TruthTalk] Know the Truth

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
What do you know about "being free" JD? Ppl who just talk and encourage carnality in others don't know anything about freedom or entering His Rest.  In fact this mindset replicates that of Israel who thought God cared so much for Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that he would overlook some things th

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
"Believe in God's word" is fundy code for "believe as I do."     When we have been dispersed, take with you the knowledge that not one single Rad Fundy has given any of us a clue as to what "doctrine" they are talking about.     You must obey the commandments  !!!   they yell  to the others.   W

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress
..partic as "Word" is her trick word   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:29 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..*implicitly*   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:44:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..& tt evidence suggests her nn's ain't biblical   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:29:20 -0700

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress
..*implicitly*   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:44:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..& tt evidence suggests her nn's ain't biblical   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:29:20 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (this writer subjugates us to her narrow notions, permits us no faith i

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress
..& tt evidence suggests her nn's ain't biblical   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:29:20 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (this writer subjugates us to her narrow notions, permits us no faith in God per se)   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:08 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress
myth (this writer subjugates us to her narrow notions, permits us no faith in God per se)   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:08 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ..   jt: ppl of faith believe God's Word

[TruthTalk] Trailer of a new movie: Freedom to Fascism

2006-03-22 Thread Marlin halverson
Some of the content is about taxes, but there are prophetic ramifications to buying and selling and the mark of the beast.  There are three media players to choose from for the preview.   http://www.freedomtofascism.com/w_high.html

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
And sure enough, you did this very thing  --   Be sure to answer with "the right one, John -- duh !!   Your wording a little different,  but it is the same ridiculous non-answer.    -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well of course you couldn't

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
what on earth are you talking about, Judy  !!!   Secret things ???   So you decided to just stay off subject?   Whatever.     -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some ppl are willing to let God be God JD The secret things belong to the Lord a

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
The schools have bigger problems to deal with. But maybe that is the planJudy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sure because this is what you are talking about JD; ppl of faith believe God's Word and wait for Him to give them understanding.  Religious ppl have all kinds of theories, big bang,

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Why don't one of you POTENTATES fix it. Or get your self some Pope or Protestant for a Politician. This would be the specialty of the Reformed Catholics, they are gonna bring in the kingdom ya know they are the promised people (JEWS) and they are gonna bring us all kicking and screaming into thei

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Let's have them Teach Dominion Theology in school ; )[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the school systems and you are talking about religious people!!!   Amazing     Maybe we should install a different creationist version for every major school system  

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Sure because this is what you are talking about JD; ppl of faith believe God's Word and wait for Him to give them understanding.  Religious ppl have all kinds of theories, big bang, black holes, and on and on. You don't need to worry about fundies or school systems JD because you don't have i

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Well of course you couldn't tell them the Truth JD could you? I mean after all He is a Rock of offense and it might offend the Muslims We are responsible to instruct our own children - The public schools don't care what view anyone on TT holds do they?   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:22:56 + [EM

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Some ppl are willing to let God be God JD The secret things belong to the Lord and as Kevin says; let the ppl serving Caesar fumble around and follow whatever way the wind is blowing.   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:34:20 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Someone said render

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
So true, so true KD     On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:54:02 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: A man may be Theologically knowing while spiritually DEAD.Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let me get this straight JD. By Rad Fundies you are talking ab

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the school systems and you are talking about religious people!!!   Amazing     Maybe we should install a different creationist version for every major school system   ...   I am sure we can find enough fundy ideas to go around.  That

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
We are still waitig  !   -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Someone said render to Cesear what is Cesear's [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So which fundamentalist version  of creation do you support.  That A & E were spirit people.   A 6000 year da

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
I surmised as much JD; my point being that religious ppl have many and varied points of view about anything and everything and this is no measure by which to gauge what is needful or true.   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:20:02 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you even know what this thread is a

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
There you go again - as is your custom. You make these great outlandish accusations and then when asked for evidence you shrink back and put it all off on someone else. There has got to be a psychological term for ppl like you, I know what my husband would say - something about bull dog mouth

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Someone said render to Cesear what is Cesear's [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:So which fundamentalist version  of creation do you support.  That A & E were spirit people.   A 6000 year date or a 10,000 or an "unknown" e.t.  ?   The version that says it took God 144 hours to speak words that can be   

Re: [TruthTalk] In sum

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
I think I now have enough evidence to put you in the slammer  --  for beinging a "peeping tom."   Big time mistake, THIS time.     -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Your MUTHA wears Combat boots![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go back to sleep, Judy,

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
So which fundamentalist version  of creation do you support.  That A & E were spirit people.   A 6000 year date or a 10,000 or an "unknown" e.t.  ?   The version that says it took God 144 hours to speak words that can be   spoken in 24 seconds !!!   I just did it in 24 big ones  !!   including a d

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you a grad of the Ur Mutha Wears Kombat Boots school of apologetics?   One thing is for sure you always deal with the real issues![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:froth around the edges of the lips.   -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Then ma

Re: [TruthTalk] Dead sea scroll etc.

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Atlanta Cleveland and FL See it if you can! http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-0321deadsea%2C0%2C2367708.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines Dead Sea Scroll to go on display__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spa

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
froth around the edges of the lips.   -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Then maybe you can flesh it out for the rest of us. I am sure Lance can not/will not   I am sure we can see the difference, but just what are the symptoms of that particular

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
This from the one who did not even know his heritage a few days before the knowledge of the CHRIST-ian movement.   Your Mutha still wears combat boots   Information sources need to be predictably accurate    Then I would say PsychoAssertionISM (Baseless Assertions) is your bag, since when di

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Your mutha wears combat boots[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:What's you oldest "Batman and Robin" edition?   jd   -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From  one book worm to another.   I read a book a week, love reading, I guess I just read the W

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Your Mutha wears[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:How busy are you , for the Lord, my dear southern plantation owner ??  Gave away any unwanted furniture lately?   I would be careful with such criticism when one's duff is permanently shaped to her favority chair !!   jd   -- Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
I would rather FROTH at the mouth and attempt something than be a nothing, a 0 as far as evangelism goes!   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Paul opposed the intolerant legalists in the church and so will I while, at the same time, writing the words of Romans 14.   He is one of my mentors  --  I will

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Some charge that RW has No Absolute Morals!   RW says "I have to distinguish plainly between personal theories and interpretations and the majority conviction of my Church"So opinions of Men as in the Majority consensus of his CHURCH is his Absolute guide!   http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
That smells like FundamentalISM to me!Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do know this Iz, that my friends and I have puzzled more over David than anyone on TT over the years. We don't know if he WON'T or CAN'T see.(I opt for won't.)- Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAI

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
What do you, "Operative _expression_" believe God has called THEM, to do? Operative Thought God called them, it is not a old fashioned party line.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Operative _expression_ 'what they believe God has called them to do'?- Original Message - F

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Riddle me that one Batman!ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, it's always the fault of the communicator (whenever attempting tocommunicate with you-know-who.) iz-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Wednesday, March 22, 20

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Read any good books lately on Suicide Bombing in your local Canadian library?ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What would anyone learn from all the tomes you've suggested over the years,Lance??? iz-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance

RE: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Still waiting for the DATA!   and Lance don't forget the Library situation up there!ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Oh, Kevin, how very unfair of you to disprove Lance’s anti-Semitism with the FACTS!!! (And how utterly futile, no doubt.)  izzy   From: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] In sum

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Your MUTHA wears Combat boots![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Go back to sleep, Judy, and the problem just might resolve itself.    jd   -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oophs! The mockers have been emboldened ... Anarchy is at the door  

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
A man may be Theologically knowing while spiritually DEAD.Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let me get this straight JD. By Rad Fundies you are talking about people who believe Genesis as it is written - Right??   PS What is wrong with the Carroll Dean's and the Pat Robertsons of

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Don't you get it JT? TRUTH is found in CONSENSUS! The opinions of Men are the key.Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So? There isn't a single fiew of the whole church that is agreed upon by the whole church either.  What does that prove?    judyt   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:27:56 +0

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Still waiting for the DATA!ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is arrogance for you to think that you know more about the issue than wedo simply because we don't agree. Add to that the ridiculously outrageousnature of your accusations. izzy-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
HEY I will HIGH FIVE ya on that!  ; )David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There were many years of TruthTalk without Lance and JD. No, it was not a lot of backslapping.David Miller- Original Message - From: Lance MuirTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:27 PM

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=""> Polonium Radiohalos: The Model for Their Formation Tested and Verified http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action="">   But being that it is ICR research you may be too embarrassed to read it. ; )   http://www.icr.org/index.php?

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
STILL WAITING Do you support books in Canadian Libraries that encourage Suicide Bombing?David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Excellent point again, Kevin.  Stand by for the "harumph" in spite of all the evidence.   David Miller- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Lance says Hmm curiouser & curiouserBehind the 'Looking Glass' would one encounter DM & KD? As John, the good bishop said, without the you-know-who's on TT it'd be one grand backslapping 'hail fellow well met'    Ba Da Boom Ba Da Bing Thats all folks still no evidence!   Do you su

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
And the Evidence you present? Is where? Question, Is belief in spite of lack of evidence some sort of ISM? Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:After years of bloodshed even sissies might get a little aggitated.   Please provide one quote: Where a Jew calls an arab a Rat Dog or ver

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
And we have been been here so long and you have offered WHAT EVIDENCE?   O I forgot Lances BASELESS ASSERTIONS qualify as Evidence.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David:It's because this is that which passes for evidence with such as yourself. I've seen that for a long time.-

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Then maybe you can flesh it out for the rest of us. I am sure Lance can not/will not   I am sure we can see the difference, but just what are the symptoms of that particular ISM? David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lance wrote:> Fundamental Christianity is [fine]... > FundamentalISM ought

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Which is a very dangerous position to take. Of course many enjoy it, "when our leaders speak the thinking has been done"David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sadly, Lance, you do not see that you are the one who offers only a "harumph." Kevin presented actual evidence for consideration.David Mi

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
And what do his other "works" say about him, to you?   How do you feel about his taking part in a DRUID worship service?David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lance wrote:> If Williams is a 'liberal loonie' then> you are a 'sectarian loonie' , David.I'm sectarian only in the sense that the holy

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
The STANDARD of ORTHODOXY in RW's eyes as shown in his own words is The opinions of Men in the consensus of his churchDavid Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lance, you have never been able to distinguish between Orthodoxy and the teaching of Scripture. Judy has been trying so hard to get you to s

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
The STANDARD of ORTHODOXY in RW's eyes as shown in his own words is The opinions of Men in the consensus of his churchDavid Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lance, you have never been able to distinguish between Orthodoxy and the teaching of Scripture. Judy has been trying so hard to get you to s

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
All their rhetoric about the compatibility of faith and science doesn't mean much at all if they affirm this idea that the Creator should be ignored in the study of science.   Only if the study of Science is REALLY about the pursuit of truth! Sadly that has not been it's track record.David Mille

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
There is no point in such posts.   You can't get it right with Stone/Campbell. no point in believing you can get it right concerning anything else.   Information sources need to be predictably accurate  --  not just predictable. .   jd   -- Original message -- From: Kev

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
There is something funny about a man that thinks he has such a direct line with God that he is able to discern God's will for another man!Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well what are you about Lance Muir Are you doing what God has called someone else to do? Are you criticizing wh

Re: [TruthTalk] Henry Morris

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
I'm embarrassed of Henry Morris and that whole ICR group over there.   What exactly are you embarrassed about?   Henry Morris B.S., with honors in civil engineering, Rice University, Houston, TX, 1939 Hydraulic Engineering M.S., University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN, 1948 Ph.D., Unive

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
A man may be Theologically Intelligent but Spiritually Ignorant and without personal morals. Then again maybe ignorant on both count RW on the Atonement "'Christians have always found it hard to say exactly how this works. Some speak of Jesus taking the punishment for sin in our place, some

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
Or maybe, just maybe, her adaptations have to do with what she eats.   jd   -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>     I think she adjusts and adapts to the perceived depth of those she is addressing Lance     On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lanc

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
  I think she adjusts and adapts to the perceived depth of those she is addressing Lance     On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> You're soo deep, Iz.\> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Baloney. > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Well what are you about Lance Muir Are you doing what God has called someone else to do? Are you criticizing what you think someone else is doing that God didn't tell them to do? Are you hearing God as to what he wants you to do? How do you know you are hearing God since noone can know truth

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
What's you oldest "Batman and Robin" edition?   jd   -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From  one book worm to another.   I read a book a week, love reading, I guess I just read the WRONG books!   I have a personal library room and a few collecti

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
Likewise, here.  It will go onto the shelf next to my "Little Black Box"  or something like that.    jd   -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I will give it a read, David. > > > - Original Message - > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
One can find strains of FundamentalISM in the strangest places!Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Iz:Fundamental Christianity is that which John believes. FundamentalISM ought not be believed by anyone.- Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: March 21, 200

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
DH just tell me what part ADAM had in the creation of the Earth Do all Mormons eventually get to create their own Earth? When they do will they be resurrected beings w/o blood like Adam? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 200

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
How busy are you , for the Lord, my dear southern plantation owner ??  Gave away any unwanted furniture lately?   I would be careful with such criticism when one's duff is permanently shaped to her favority chair !!   jd   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAI

Re: [TruthTalk] Modalism & the RESTORATION

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
No David, read the links that show He adopted the "Christian Church" Movement as far as the name of the church must have the name Christ as in CHRIST-ian Church. Elias Smith taught that years before Alexander Campbell or Joe! How old were they in 1803, when he founded the "Church of Christ" in Po

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
Paul opposed the intolerant legalists in the church and so will I while, at the same time, writing the words of Romans 14.   He is one of my mentors  --  I will do the same.  A Rad Fundy is not defined by the words she reads but by the froth of mouth  as she "evangelizes" the lost.     If the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
Do you even know what this thread is about, Judy?   WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GOES INTO THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM   --  HUH ??!!   Be sure to answer with "the right one, John -- duh !!" or will that be Linda's piece of intellectual contribuation for the day?    jd   -- Original message --

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
From  one book worm to another.   I read a book a week, love reading, I guess I just read the WRONG books!   I have a personal library room and a few collections.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd answer IFF you'd read/watch (i.e. make use of) the data available. We both know that you (

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
Do you even know what this thread is about, Judy?   WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GETS INTO THE CIRRICULUM  --   HUH  ???   -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So? There isn't a single fiew of the whole church that is agreed upon by the whole church e

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
I will give it a read, David. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 22, 2006 13:44 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism David Miller wrote: Have you read Creation's Tiny Mystery, by Robert Gentry? Lance wrote: No, I've not

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
I do know this Iz, that my friends and I have puzzled more over David than anyone on TT over the years. We don't know if he WON'T or CAN'T see.(I opt for won't.) - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 22, 2006 14:46 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is th

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
Iz:You slipped! David agreed with this 'hair-splitting' as you call it. Do you wish to apologize to your mentor? - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 22, 2006 14:21 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Only in your hair-splitt

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
About as much as your husband's patients have learned from his care, Iz. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 22, 2006 14:44 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What would anyone learn from all the tomes you've suggested ove

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
You're soo deep, Iz. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Baloney. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
I watched whilst the two of you shot down the best of the 'layer-outers'. Close mindedness is the operative _expression_. Sad, sad, sad! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 22, 200

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
Operative _expression_ 'what they believe God has called them to do'? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 22, 2006 14:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Let me get this straight JD. By R

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
But it’s so much easier to sit on one’s tuffet and criticize the work of others. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:25 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creatio

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Yes, it's always the fault of the communicator (whenever attempting to communicate with you-know-who.) iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:30 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Trut

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
What would anyone learn from all the tomes you've suggested over the years, Lance??? iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:18 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: William

RE: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, Kevin, how very unfair of you to disprove Lance’s anti-Semitism with the FACTS!!! (And how utterly futile, no doubt.)  izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:25 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Su

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
The problem is when any belief held by a fundamental Christian is labeled "Fundamentalism". izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:28 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] F

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Baloney. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Even at th

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Let me get this straight JD. By Rad Fundies you are talking about people who believe Genesis as it is written - Right??   PS What is wrong with the Carroll Dean's and the Pat Robertsons of this world? You may have to eat those words one day because both are busy about what they believe God ha

Re: [TruthTalk] In sum

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
Go back to sleep, Judy, and the problem just might resolve itself.    jd   -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oophs! The mockers have been emboldened ... Anarchy is at the door   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:47:26 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:    

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
So? There isn't a single fiew of the whole church that is agreed upon by the whole church either.  What does that prove?    judyt   On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:27:56 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I do.   I know this  --  there isn't a single view

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Only in your hair-splitting mentality. iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:03 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Iz:Fundamental Christianity i

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
It is arrogance for you to think that you know more about the issue than we do simply because we don't agree. Add to that the ridiculously outrageous nature of your accusations. izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednes

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
It is a shame we will not be able to finish this thread, I suppose,   but I must say something here  --   the conflict  (speaking for myself) is not between science and religion.   It is between religion and fundamentalism  (radical fundamentalism, if you will.)   Knowing that the first step will

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Your observations are delusions Lance; I have learned much during my time on TT Just because you have no insight does not negate the reality.  Nor does it let you off the hook.  If you have all of this insight that DavidM and myself lack then it is your responsibility to lay it out.  judyt  

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
There were many years of TruthTalk without Lance and JD. No, it was not a lot of backslapping. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant! Hmmm

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: >> Have you read Creation's Tiny >> Mystery, by Robert Gentry? Lance wrote: > No, I've not but, what would I learn > were I to do so, David? I'm glad you asked. There are several things you would learn: 1. You would learn about the evidence for polonium halos indicating tha

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
It just might be the case that YOU are not as good a communicater as YOU believe yourself to be, David. Ah well, David, soon a long rest from TT and, onto things more important! - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 22, 2006 13:08 Subject: Re: [T

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
Hmm curiouser & curiouserBehind the 'Looking Glass' would one encounter DM & KD? As John, the good bishop said, without the you-know-who's on TT it'd be one grand backslapping 'hail fellow well met'  - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
No, I've not but, what would I learn were I to do so, David? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 22, 2006 10:50 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Lance wrote: One's time would be better spent reading some noteworthy nove

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
Excellent point again, Kevin.  Stand by for the "harumph" in spite of all the evidence.   David Miller - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced shepp

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: > As to mantras David, yours 'I have only > the truth and, all of the truth all of the time > is neither borne out by Scripture nor reality. This is not my mantra. We have a communication problem here. I do not believe that I have only the truth or all of the truth all of the time.

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-22 Thread Lance Muir
Judy:Short of intervention by the Spirit of God, I deem it IMPOSSIBLE for you to be shown anything on TT by anyone. I've observed this over my entire stint on TT. Of course you'll disagree with this. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.or

Re: [TruthTalk] Ruddy faced sheppard opresses Giant!

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
After years of bloodshed even sissies might get a little aggitated.   Please provide one quote: Where a Jew calls an arab a Rat Dog or vermin Where a leader of the nation of Israel calls for the complete annihilation of an Arab state Where the Jews through a party while dancing on the bodies o

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