Jonathan Hughes wrote:
Mother of
Pearl! There is nothing
more annoying than speaking with an American who has such a
western-centric
worldview. Please do one of the following to rescue yourself from
complete naivety.
1)
Buy a world
map or a
globe and circle ‘Chr
s' who have never heard the name of Jesus. Any
disagreement?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 06, 2004 10:07
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
Why do you believe this Lance, plea
: Monday, June 07, 2004 7:14
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation
of Christ
I can't speak for "over the
millennia" because I don't know how they communicated or what they
knew back then. However, I will
say that in working at genealogy I am
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 07, 2004 07:14
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
I can't speak for "over the millennia" because I
don't know how they communicated or what they
knew back then. However, I will say that in
worki
I can't speak for "over the millennia" because I don't
know how they communicated or what they
knew back then. However, I will say that in
working at genealogy I am surprised at how the ancients
got about and what they knew before "the
information age" so today I have a hard time believing
t
Judyt: OK. Cumulatively, over the millennia, there
are 'billions' who have never heard the name of Jesus. Any
disagreement?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 06, 2004 10:07
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
In a message dated 6/5/2004 7:40:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JS:(yet one more spelling of your name) Just a note on reading/listening: Put the dictionary away. Read/listen all the way through for the effect of the 'package'. Thereafter begin to define/ask.
Start with
Why do you believe this Lance, please
explain...
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I believe this to be technically
accurate.
--From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
who will testify to
this? g
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 01:53:13 -0700 Dave
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
..
I believe this to be technically
accurate.
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From:
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 06, 2004 08:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
who will testify to
this? g
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 01:53:13
who will testify to
this? g
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 01:53:13 -0700 Dave
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
..there are literally
billions who have lived and died without even hearing the name of
Jesus..
Judy Taylor wrote:
daveh: From what I've learned previously in TT, anybody who
dies without believing in Jesus is condemned to the lake of fire. (I
assume you agree???) Yet there are literally
billions who have lived and died without even hearing the name of
Jesus, let
Other than #1, why do you choose to believe they are symbolic? Izzy
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Mediation of Christ
Hats off on
--
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
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Hats off on 10 descriptions of
hell -- never put all that together before. John
SnithosnIn a message dated 6/5/2004 2:59:26 AM Pacific
Daylight Ti
Hats off on 10 descriptions of hell -- never put all that together before.
John Snithosn
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+++
IV The 10 descriptions of Hell are symbolic not literal
A. Physical garbage dump outside of Jer
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judyt: Another thing
that bothers me is why some appear to be so hung up on hell and the lake of
fire
daveh: I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian
perception to be very interesting. To me it is
obviously symbolic, but to most Christi
Parable/story...story/parable..It's made up for the
purpose of conveying something.
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From:
Dave
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 05, 2004 03:23
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
Judy Taylor wrote:
Another thing
Judy Taylor wrote:
Another thing that bothers me is why some
appear to be so hung up on hell and the lake of fire
daveh: I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian
perception to be very interesting. To me it is obviously symbolic,
but to most Christians it seems to
If Jesus had to grow in wisdom and stature then only a
crazy person would claim to have all knowledge about all things and I am very
much aware of the areas in my life that need to change. However, I am not
'knowingly' deceived and when the Holy Spirit shines the light of conviction on
an ar
:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 04, 2004 07:11
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
From your perspective Lance it would most likely be
the part that does not agree with your peculiar spin
on the Mediation of Christ
:-) This doctrine is either
From your perspective Lance it would most likely be the
part that does not agree with your peculiar spin
on the Mediation of Christ
:-) This doctrine is either the answer or it adds to the
problem.
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So then, when YOU are a contributor to any of these
So then, when YOU are a contributor to any of these
three what issues from your mouth/pen/keyboard actually originates with
Satan?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 04, 2004 01:11
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
When it relates to truth and why we don't
all say the same thing - Yes I do. Unbelief, chaos and disunity serve
his purpose, rather than the Lord's.
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
so, when misunderstood by anyone, you attribute
this to Satan???
From:
Judy
Taylor
Your qu
so, when misunderstood by anyone, you attribute
this to Satan???- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 03, 2004 09:59
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
Your question was "When it does not then, to what do
Your question was "When it does not then, to what do we
attribute this prevailing misconception of our meaning?"
My answer is "We attribute all misconception to the
father of lies and his minions this is their ministry
exclusively..."
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
??SER
??SERIOUSLY please translate this
message as it relates to my question.- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 03, 2004 08:18
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes: We've all misunderstood what someone has meant
when spoken to. We've all similarly been misunderstood, as to our meaning, when
speaking to others. On occasion this may entail 'deception'. When it does not
then, to what do we attribute this prevailing misconcep
tion of our
meaning?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 02, 2004 16:06
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
So, the Holy Spirit is not able to give understanding
if everyone does not see
every nuance of language i
David Miller wrote:
DAVEH wrote:
From what I've learned previously in TT, anybody
who dies without believing in Jesus is condemned
to the lake of fire.
That's because all have sinned. The wages of sin is death.
DAVEH: Now you are drawing a conclusion that dea
So, the Holy Spirit is not able to give understanding
if everyone does not see
every nuance of language in the same light? I
communicate with people from
all over - my husband and I communicate with our
grandson who points and
uses one word. How so?
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, the problem IS with language itself.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 02, 2004 09:43
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"language
is th
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy Taylor
wrote:
daveh: ... with all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus
taught, it would seem like you are suggesting a lot of folks who think they are
believers, really aren't believers ... Davidm:
Right...
daveh:... and will end up being tossed i
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"language
is the house of being" one ought to take care when one
objectifies language...
jt: What kind of a statement is this? Philosophy
from Heidegger who
some call a Nazi philosopher?
What Jesus meant and what we say he meant may not be the same i
DAVEH wrote:
> From what I've learned previously in TT, anybody
> who dies without believing in Jesus is condemned
> to the lake of fire.
That's because all have sinned. The wages of sin is death.
DaveH wrote:
> Yet there are literally billions who have lived and
> died without even hearing
Judy Taylor wrote:
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy Taylor wrote:
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
... with all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus taught,
it would seem like you are suggesting a lot of folks who think they are
believers, really ar
DAVEH wrote:
> ... what do Christians see as the downside of
> having misconceptions? Without some negative
> result, what motivation would Christians have
> to seek the truth?
The downside of misconceptions is that they lead to sinful action.
Nevertheless, we are not judged for the misconce
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy Taylor
wrote:
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...
with all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus taught, it would seem
like you are suggesting a lot of folks who think they are
believers, really aren't believers ...
Davidm: Right...
Judy Taylor wrote:
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
... with all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus taught,
it would seem like you are suggesting a lot of folks who think they are
believers, really aren't believers ...
Davidm: Right...
DaveH wrote:... and wil
so it's not (the same in
all cases)...is it??
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From:
Dave
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 01, 2004 02:54
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
David Miller wrote:
DAVEH:
... with all the conflicting beliefs as to wha
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...
with all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus taught, it would seem like
you are suggesting a lot of folks who think they are
believers, really aren't believers ...
Davidm: Right...
DaveH wrote:... and will end up being tossed into the lake of fir
David Miller wrote:
DAVEH:
... with all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus taught,
it would seem like you are suggesting a lot of folks who
think they are believers, really aren't believers ...
Right...
DaveH wrote:
... and will end up being tossed
In a message dated 5/31/2004 11:04:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you beat a child with a rod he will not die (in most cases) but you will likely be 'charged'. (Penal code)
You're on a role.
J
In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:32:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
once heard the prevailing (read TT) understanding of the Atonement (see also Gibson's movie) as "Divine Child Abuse".
Another reason why I like you.
John
In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:32:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Proverbs 23: 13-14 Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you beat him with a rod, he will not die.
You shall beat him with a rid, and deliver his soul from Hell.
God
Maybe G is not talking about
In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:23:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ever think that G could have used a good spanking when he was a kid? Iz
lol
In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:17:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's a 2 part issue, Gramps:
Paddling a child which is not prohibited, biblically, relative to it's whole message
'Paddling' unto perfection, in the context, below, which is a hideous human hubris, bibl
If you beat a child with a rod he will not die (in
most cases) but you will likely be 'charged'. (Penal code)
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From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 31, 2004 13:31
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
P
I once heard the prevailing (read TT) understanding
of the Atonement (see also Gibson's movie) as "Divine Child Abuse".
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 31, 2004 13:18
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediati
Proverbs 23: 13-14 Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you
beat him with a rod, he will not die.
You shall beat him with a rid, and deliver his soul from Hell.
God
[EMA
Ever think that G could have used a good spanking when he
was a kid? Iz
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From: ShieldsFamily
To: Todd and Shirley Zumbehl
Sent: Monday, May 31,
2004 8:52 AM
Subject: FW: [TruthTalk]
The Mediation of Christ
It's a 2 part issue, Gramps:
Paddling a child which is not
prohibited, biblically, relative to it's whole
message
'Paddling' unto perfection, in the
context, below, which is a hideous human hubris,
biblically
g.o.
On Sun, 30 May 2004 05:47:20 EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writ
In a message dated 5/28/2004 3:02:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes; and what about the 'cult/s' of 'believers' 'sanctifying' the children with belts and boards; unto 'perfection' by paddling, eh?
Morman or not, they believe this abusive madness is theological; and, p
michael douglas wrote:
Michael D: Thank you
Dave H for reposting this. I think Kevin's
point highlights the seeming dilemma inherent in David's previous and current
positions.
DAVEH: There is no dilemma
for me, MichaelD. I know what I believe, and am very comfortable
with those beliefs. Tho
BTW I am enjoying the recent atmosphere - it is edifying! Laura
=
Me too! Maybe it is a sign that we are growing. I like to think so anyway.
Terry
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how yo
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[TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ
In a message dated 5/28/2004 9:27:59 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There
seems to be a confusion in nomenclature:
There is a difference between BELIEVING IN Yeshua and
In a message dated 5/29/2004 7:27:51 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What are the differences? Just curious. Laura-Good morning Laura:There are people c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/28/2004 9:27:59 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There seems to be a confusion in nomenclature:
There is a difference between BELIEVING
IN Yeshua and BELIEVING Yeshua.
Perhaps this is the di
In a message dated 5/28/2004 9:27:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There seems to be a confusion in nomenclature:
There is a difference between BELIEVING IN Yeshua and BELIEVING Yeshua.
Perhaps this is the difference everyone is stepping around.
-- slade
What are th
Slade Henson wrote:
There seems to be a confusion in nomenclature:
There is a difference between
BELIEVING IN Yeshua and BELIEVING Yeshua.
Perhaps this is the difference everyone is stepping
around.
-- slade
--
Sweetie sounds like the perfect husband
for you G
On Fri, 28 May 2004 20:38:48 -0500
"ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
..Sweetie is forwarding
TT's to me..
at otherwise is painfully
deficient. You are an exemplary example. Iz
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From: ShieldsFamily
To: 'Todd & Shirley
Zumbehl'
Sent: Friday, May 28,
2004 9:02 PM
Subject: FW: [TruthTalk]
The Mediation of Christ
Fr
Michael D -- could you use a different color on your print. I have a he -- he-- he-- heck of a time reading your posts.
John
In a message dated 5/28/2004 3:03:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michael D: Thank you Dave H for reposting this.
I think Kevin's poin
VING Yeshua.
Perhaps this is the difference everyone is stepping
around.
-- slade
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Friday, 28 May, 2004 14:59To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
Re: [TruthTal
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 28, 2004 17:49
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation
of Christ
On Fri, 28 May 2004 11:58:39 -0700
(PDT) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DAVEH: Seems like a lot of
Christian
Kevin
DeeganSent: Friday, 28 May, 2004 14:59To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation
of Christ
DAVEH: Seems like a lot of Christian folks think salvation
is for any believer in Jesus, excepting if that believer is a member of a
group labeled as a cult.
Or that
Michael D: Thank you Dave H for reposting this.
I think Kevin's point highlights the seeming dilemma inherent in David's previous and current positions.
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: Seems like a lot of Christian folks think salvation is for any believer in Jesus, excepting
LOOK it speaks english!!
A heartfelt AMEN! to pretty much every word
spoken.
Lance
.
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Sent: May 28, 2004 17:49
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of
Christ
On Fri, 28 May 2004 11:58:39 -0700 (PDT)
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DAVEH: Seems like a lot of
Christian folks think salvation is for any believer in Jesus, excepting if
that believer is a member of a group labeled as a
cult.
Or that "BELIEVER" believes in the Jesu
DAVEH: Seems like a lot of Christian folks think salvation is for any believer in Jesus, excepting if that believer is a member of a group labeled as a cult.
Or that "BELIEVER"
believes in the Jesus that is Satan's brother.believes in the MAN Jesus who worked his way upward to become a god
(he wa
Michael D: Hansen, I think I inadvertently
deleted your last response to me. Can you please resend.
DAVEH: I think this is the last one I posted, MichaelD.
++
Dave wrote:
michael douglas wrote:
DAVEH: I haven't been following
Michael D: Hansen, I think I inadvertently deleted your last response to me. Can you please resend.Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
David Miller wrote:
John S. wrote:
Soo, you are saying that we must be intellectually
correct on the teaching of hell in order to be saved?
No. Salvatio
In a message dated 5/26/2004 7:28:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Hmwith all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus taught, it would seem like you are suggesting a lot of folks who think they are believers, really aren't believers and will end up being toss
I will have to think about your explanation. Sorry I don't fire something back right away but it is my busy season (until winter, I hope) so it is 5 am to whenever and for this 59 year old guy, it is tough. I have some material on The Mediation of Christ by Torrance ( a God send and a great bles
Interesting commentary from DaveH and a good one, I think.
Terry, I couldn't agree with your comment more. Faith without works is dead but thinking and doing are two different things. Incidently everyone, I made no statement --- I only axed a question.
In a message dated 5/25/2004 9:2
DAVEH:
> ... with all the conflicting beliefs as to what Jesus taught,
> it would seem like you are suggesting a lot of folks who
> think they are believers, really aren't believers ...
Right...
DaveH wrote:
> ... and will end up being tossed into the lake of fire for
> having (some) misconc
David Miller wrote:
John S. wrote:
Soo, you are saying that we must be intellectually
correct on the teaching of hell in order to be saved?
No. Salvation is not based upon intellect and understanding. This is
why I was concerned about your perspective about fa
John S. wrote:
> Soo, you are saying that we must be intellectually
> correct on the teaching of hell in order to be saved?
No. Salvation is not based upon intellect and understanding. This is
why I was concerned about your perspective about faith being
intellectual. As we grow in Christ
michael douglas wrote:
DAVEH: I haven't been following this thread too close, so I may
not fully understand what comments you are expecting of me, Michael.
Michael D: My main reason for anticipating
your response is in the light of David not categorically alleging that
your
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
michael douglas wrote:
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John wrote:> I don't understand this observation. Doesn't the reality of hell (whatever that is) exist apart from our consideration? Why would God punish us for being wrong in our understanding of ete
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/24/2004 11:39:14 PM Pacific
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So..if Christians think they can be saved by their
belief in Jesus, then they must surely believe that congruence of
belief (and understanding and keeping his commandments
In a message dated 5/24/2004 11:39:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So..if Christians think they can be saved by their belief in Jesus, then they must surely believe that congruence of belief (and understanding and keeping his commandments) is not necessary for salvation.
michael douglas wrote:
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John wrote:
> I don't understand this observation. Doesn't the reality of hell
(whatever that is) exist apart from our consideration? Why would God
punish us for being wrong in our understanding of eternal judgmen
In a message dated 5/24/2004 11:24:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Soo, you are saying that we must be intellectually correct on the teaching of hell in order to be saved?
J
I must be missing the boat here. I thought David was saying that Jesus taught about hell
Soo, you are saying that we must be intellectually correct on the teaching
of hell in order to be saved?
J
I must be missing the boat here. I thought David was
saying that Jesus taught about hell being a real place - then if we
say we believe Jesus - we need to
In a message dated 5/24/2004 1:16:35 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 5/24/2004 8:31:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:>I don't understand this observation. Doesn't the >reality of hell (whatever that is) exist apart from >ou
In a message dated 5/24/2004 8:31:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
>I don't understand this observation. Doesn't the
>reality of hell (whatever that is) exist apart from
>our consideration? Why would God punish us for being
>wrong in our understanding of et
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John wrote:> I don't understand this observation. Doesn't the reality of hell (whatever that is) exist apart from our consideration? Why would God punish us for being wrong in our understanding of eternal judgment. And if we have to think correctly on this
John wrote:
> I don't understand this observation. Doesn't the
> reality of hell (whatever that is) exist apart from
> our consideration? Why would God punish us for being
> wrong in our understanding of eternal judgment.
> And if we have to think correctly on this subject,
> would not c
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 5/20/2004 11:23:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm not sure anyone can be a "genuine" Believer (in God's definition) if
> they don't believe in God's promises of eternal judgment for sinners who
> reject the Savior. I am assumi
In a message dated 5/20/2004 11:23:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm not sure anyone can be a "genuine" Believer (in God's definition) if
they don't believe in God's promises of eternal judgment for sinners who
reject the Savior. I am assuming you do believe in this. Izz
In a message dated 5/19/2004 1:56:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jonathan, Lance and John, do any of you consider yourselves to be
Universalists? How do you identify and define your idealology? Just
(really) wondering. Izzy
Business is awesome but little time to read, s
Good morning, my friend Izzy
Your question requires different answers depending upon
the use of the word "are" or "is."
To answer the "who is the seed of
Abraham" question:
The promises of God to Avraham and to his Seed (being a
singular word) are intended for two persons: Avraham and Mess
Slade, So true. Who do you say are the "seed of Abraham"? Izzy
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 3:40 AM
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Our Creator
Lance, I prescribe a good ophthalmologist. :-) Izzy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ
Judy: A typo. Heb 2:16 fg. I have
Lance wrote:
Judy: A typo. Heb 2:16 fg.
jt: He didn't take upon Himself the nature of angels, it was the seed of Abraham; so
we need to let the Word of God define who the seed of Abraham are. Is it everyone
with a physical body who has been born into this world? I don't think so, Romans 9:7,8
Judy: Heb 2:14,15. Lance
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: May 21, 2004 15:33
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ
>
> Lance wrote:
> Judy: A typo. Heb 2:16 fg. I have my new prescription (glasses) in my
> w
Lance wrote:
Judy: A typo. Heb 2:16 fg. I have my new prescription (glasses) in my
wallet. I doesn't help me much there. Lance
jt: :) No they won't help from your wallet. He didn't take upon Himself the nature of
angels, it was the seed of Abraham; so we need to let the Word of God define who th
Judy: A typo. Heb 2:16 fg. I have my new prescription (glasses) in my
wallet. I doesn't help me much there. Lance
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ
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Lance wrote:
Judy: For your consideration: Heb 2:19 following. I guessed that you took your Bible
with you. Lance
jt: Yes I did Lance but my Bible doesn't have any Heb 2:19, it only goes up to Verse
18 in Hebrews Chapter 2. Did you do that intentionally or is it a typo?
Judyt
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Judy: For your consideration: Heb 2:19 following. I guessed that you took
your Bible with you. Lance
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Sent: May 21, 2004 12:18
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ
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Lance wrote:
Izzy:I do not consider myself a universalist.If, however, God considered Himself a
universalist I wouldn't be angry. I believe that Jesus' Humanity is vicarious. In the
'second Adam' all of humanity, from the first to the last, are included. Any exclusion
is not of
God's doing. Isn
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