Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/25/2004 10:02:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This brings up what I think is an important consideration to contemplate.  I personally believe that Jesus calls us to walk in love by assuming the best of another person whenever it is plausible to do so. 

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-25 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/25/2004 10:02:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This brings up what I think is an important consideration to contemplate.  I personally believe that Jesus calls us to walk in love by assuming the best of another person whenever it is plausible to do so.

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread Jeff Powers
ï Jeff in red, I belive John wrote:   I learned today, that Madonna is studying Kabbalah.  I doubt if madonna and her ilk have a clue about real Kabbala. In fact, I know that I'm not,hmm, need a word,mature enough to get involved in Kabbala study.  I need to grow spiritually before gett

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/26/2004 5:32:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kabbala #1 - What Is Kabbala? by Rabbi Shimon Leiberman Thanks Jeff.  This helps. John

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
If that is my belief (which it is), would it not also be walking in love if I admonished a brother to “be careful” about how he judges someone, to avoid harming himself? (Especially someone as beloved of God as Abraham?)  AND would you, if you were walking in love, assume that I was cautio

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
This brings up what I think is an important consideration to contemplate.  I personally believe that Jesus calls us to walk in love by assuming the best of another person whenever it is plausible to do so. One additional point --  one is not a loving person who has no regard for what he/

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Very interesting, Jeff.  Where do we get the rest of the series? Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Powers Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/26/2004 9:09:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to deal with spiritual principles; not personalities. What if thinking evil of another brings evil upon you? Is that possible? Izzy Well, there certainly are consequences to be dealt with as a

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread Jeff Powers
] Assuming the best / walking in love? Very interesting, Jeff.  Where do we get the rest of the series? Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff PowersSent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:32 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread Hughes Jonathan
Hi Izzy,   I want to clarify your point here.   Izzy states, I am trying to deal with spiritual principles; not personalities. What if thinking evil of another brings evil upon you? Is that possible? Izzy   Jonathan asks the following as clarification:  If thinking evil of another brings evil

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
  Of course, there are times when the spoken Choice has been preached to those who have already made their choice  --  "pearls before swine" as they say.  John   Exactly.  And I assume that is not the fault of the messenger? Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
I still don’t see the link.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Powers Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?   OOPS,I thought I included the link

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread Slade Henson
: PROBABLE SPAM> RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love? I still don’t see the link.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff PowersSent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthT

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
  Jonathan asks the following as clarification:  If thinking evil of another brings evil upon oneself would it be appropriate to say that to think good of another brings good upon oneself?  It appears to me that this is following a line of thought that involves karma.  One builds up karma

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread Terry Clifton
If I am not mistaken, some of us are talking about evil and sin. Are they not one and the same? Terry

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
If I am not mistaken, some of us are talking about evil and sin. Are they not one and the same? Terry   Good point Terry. If we think someone is evil we should be able to point to what specific sin, scripturally, they are committing. Izzy  

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ttxpress
  perhaps sin has certain concrete qualities (sins), e.g.,  i seen a sleight of hand in the cookie jar while evil has certain abstract qualities, e.g., what transpired in the rise and fall of the 3rd reich(?); but what's the fundamental diff betw the rise and fall of the 3rd reich as a stor

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:   ???  Does failure to repent make one evil? ShieldsFamily wrote: If I am not mistaken, some of us are talking about evil and sin. Are they not one and the same? Terry   Good point Terry. If we think someone is evil we should be able to point to what specific sin, s

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread Terry Clifton
Dave Hansen wrote: DAVEH:   ???  Does failure to repent make one evil? One repents because one is already evil. Failure to repent makes you doomed. Terry   -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?   Dave Hansen wrote: DAVEH:   ???  Does failure to repent make one

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-26 Thread ttxpress
myth (then what's to repent of? to whom?)   On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 22:46:49 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:  A repentant person is none of the descriptions below: e·vil   adj. Morally bad or wrong; wicked. Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful.

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/26/2004 3:29:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These are reasons that I am hesitant to speak evil of questionable âevangelistsâ, etc., unless I am REALLY sure about them.  Iâm sure I havenât thought this out completely, and would appreciate feedback from

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/26/2004 6:10:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what's the fundamental diff betw the rise and fall of the 3rd reich as a story told by whose biographer/s(?)  and a shrug that translates to  'i was starvd and i really thought you wouldn't mind if i tried to

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-27 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 11/26/2004 5:33:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, there are times when the spoken Choice has been preached to those who have already made their choice  --  "pearls before swine" as they say.  John   Exactly.  And I assume that is not the fa

Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-27 Thread ttxpress
i suspect you mean in terms of how lies become 'true'   On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:27:32 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ||Redundency is often the mother of truth.   

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?   In a message dated 11/26/2004 5:33:32 PM Pacific Standard Time

RE: [TruthTalk] Assuming the best / walking in love?

2004-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
Izzy in blue: To be critical of another's speech speech is not to assume the worst os another.  But where has God called us to be critical of another’s form of speech? Is there a Commandment to speak/communicate in a certain way?  Is it a sin not to communicate according to the desires of