RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Kevin, having a conversation in which you try to discuss what it means to be a follower of Christ is hardly being unequally yoked with unbelievers. Some people here claim to be Christians. It is my intention to find out if we have any common ground upon which to base that claim. Obviously

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Kevin, having a conversation in which you try to discuss what it means to be a follower of Christ is hardly being unequally yoked with unbelievers. “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Here on TT: Any unfruitful works of darkness? Ant

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-06 Thread knpraise
This has nothing to do with what goes on here. You are , in fact, in full agreement with no one. Dittoeach on this forum. So howIS that unequally yoked thingy working for you, huh Kevin? Must be lonely when you are the onlyone left standing. jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
You are , in fact, in full agreement with no one.What a STUPID statement. Why is it that you always have to go to the extremes? Lonely? Not anymore lonely than it was for C H Spurgeon. Not anymore lonely than it was for any number of God's men down thru history. I have news for you,

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Meaning that everyone has their own Jesus and there is no standard of Truth? On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:16:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The definitive answer to your query concerning 'your own Jesus' is...well...YES. judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
There most assuredly is. David Miller, Bill Taylor and John Smithson however, have demonstrated on numerous occasions, that it is NOT ALWAYS YOURS! To ward off yet another charge of blasphemy by David, I'll simply say that ALL INTERPRETATIONS OF SCRIPTURE ARE NEITHER EXHAUSTIVE NOR

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
And I will simply say once more that the Word of God needs no "INTERPRETATION" and that this is the crux of the problem. Scripture can only be spiritually discerned. (1 Cor 2:14)so all of your theological "interpreters" will in the last day prove to have been false prophets/teachers. On

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread knpraise
You glibbly misuse this scripturewhile, at the same time, consistently ignoring the problem that "infallible understanding" brings into the discussion. You Judy, believe that both the bible and your reading of the textare inspired - they cannot be wrong. The problem with this assertionis

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
I can agree with you that much, Lance, as there are ever-deeper meanings in scripture than we have yet scratched the surface of. (Hows that for a dangling participle?) I think we will spend eternity discovering those deeper meanings and will forever praise God for the miracles of His Word!

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
True Iz But one must begin somewhere, so how about we agree at a surface level; we are not even there yet and won't be so long as we have so many other 'mediators'. On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:17:02 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can agree with you that much, Lance, as

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
JESUS IS LORD! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 05, 2005 10:28 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination? Perhaps we

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Phase 1 create problem Phase 2 create solutionPhase 1 look at all the different understandings of scripture! Phase 2 Mormon "we have a Prophet" Phase 2 RCC "we have a Prophet/POPE" Phase 2 Scholar "we have a Degree and understand the context and culture.We speak read theOriginal

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
What if we can find some areas of Agreement with the Devil? Why do LDS always look for areas of agreement? You must Buy the problem before you Bite the apple!And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Perhaps we should

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you an Ecumenist? "It is better to have divisions than an evil uniformity." Walter Cradock If we all get together we WILL most assuredly conform to the lowest common denominator Evil!Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
That is a very good beginning!!! What is He Lord of in your life? Is there any area where He is not Lord in our lives? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:46 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Amen, lets ALL get together!!! Lu 4:41 And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Lance Muir
How about the dreaded tongue? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 05, 2005 12:00 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Kevin, is there no way we can find common ground upon which to grow in the Lord together, or exhort each other in holiness? Is that agreeing with the devil in your estimation? If we are only here to disparage and devour each other, then whats the point? iz From: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thats my point. Do you want to bicker over disagreements 100% of the time, or walk together in the areas that we DO agree at least part of the time? Perhaps there is nothing we agree on; is that what you are saying? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
then what’s the point? purityFirst off one must be IN the Lord before they can grow thereby. Iam not interested in Union with those that can not discern the holy from the profane. ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kevin, is there no way we can find common ground

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Many of the major denoms asked this same question in the early 1900's Many stayed inside to keep the denom in the faith but instead went down with the ship. I was in a Presbyterian Church ( in the 60's) when the New Pastor fresh out of seminary brought his Leaven with him. He was a LOST man. I

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread knpraise
Actually, Linda,, you have said something that is produndly the case. If we can acknowledge that there may beone truth per passage buta multitude of purposes (in God's mind) for considering that scripture. But, of course, those of youwho believe ininspired personal interpretation (IPT) cannot

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread knpraise
Did this come thru this morning? Second post. -Original Message-From: KnpraiseTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:15:36 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination? You glibbly misuse

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Your evangelization method seems to be Divide and Conquer. Hows it working for you? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:05 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
I can certainly say that there are times when I understood a scripture, and later understood it even better for one reason or another. I believe God has only one purpose for scripture, but as we grow we learn more deeply what the verses mean. A baby Believer can believe the Word, but a

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread knpraise
You glibbly misuse this scripturewhile, at the same time, consistently ignoring the problem that "infallible understanding" brings into the discussion. You Judy, believe that both the bible and your reading of the textare inspired - they cannot be wrong. The problem with this assertionis

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread knpraise
You glibbly misuse this scripturewhile, at the same time, consistently ignoring the problem that "infallible understanding" brings into the discussion. You Judy, believe that both the bible and your reading of the textare inspired - they cannot be wrong. The problem with this assertionis

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Keeps the leaven out. There is a Biblical Doctrine of separation. Not very popular today, with all the error compromise INSIDE the Church.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Your evangelization method seems to be “Divide and Conquer.” How’s it working for you? iz

RE: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Call it what you want butI see it as Gods Commands to a christian to keep themselves pure. It is taught in the OT the New.2 Co 6 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?And