> Slade wrote:> > Can you tell me
where in Scripture man is called> > the Lord of the Sabbath? It
seems to me the end> > of Mark tells us that Messiah is the Lord of
the> > Shabbat.> > Read it carefully. Sabbath
was made for man; therefore, who is Lord of the> sabbath? Why is
Slade wrote:
> The book of Hebrews tells us, "So there remains
> a Sabbath rest for the people of God." Why can't
> we just believe that the Sabbath still exists for
> us?
Understand clearly that the people he spoke to here observed the seventh day
sabbath. Therefore, the sabbath he speaks about
I have yet to know ANYONE who has done that
since Exodus 12
-- slade
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" I dont observe Passover (putting blood over my doorposts) because Christs Blood is over my soul. " Izzy
Wow Izzy! Iv'e never heard it put that powerfully in so few words. You just said a whole bunch of stuff in one sentence. I have to thi
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You
spoke before about being convicted that you needed to rest on
Sabbath.
I have asked you several times if you would feel convicted,
feel
like you have sinned, if you built a fire in your home on the
Sabbath
day. Has that ever happened to you?
David Miller wrote:
>> Does making a fire in your fireplace on
>> Saturday violate the moral law?
>> Please define what you mean by "moral law."
Izzy wrote:
> If you intentionally ignore Gods orders, thats
> a violation. I dont think God says that now
> (NT times). But He does still say
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My
comments about picking up some sticks for your fireplace on Saturday was
to
try and help you think about the letter of the law versus the true intent
of
the law. Somehow I think my questions about this were avoided. Can
we
talk
about picking up
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Original Message -From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, 14 March, 2003
10:46Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lord of the Sabbath> The
Sabbath is established and fulfilled by the work of Christ. That's>
the point o
David Miller wrote:
> The fact that you are asking for a designation of
> "NT times" or "OT times" is revealing that something
> is not consistent with how you apply the Torah laws
> to today.
>
> Do you accept the idea of two covenants?
> Do you recognize that the Ten Commandments
> are part of th
I like his email address!!!
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14:04
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By the way, Terrywhat does your
email address imply about you Izzy
Et TU?
Terry
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By the way, Terrywhat does your email address imply about you Izzy
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Izzy
wrote:
>
David, You are going to confuse me if you
>
By the way, Terry—what does your email address imply
about you Izzy
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Hi Terry :-) I
didn't perceive you as aged..actually wonder if you might be a (closet?) U2
fan(?)
They have
a great! song about this subject, called _The Real Thing_
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Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:08:34 -0600 "Terry Clifto
Hi Terry :-) I didn't perceive you as
aged..actually wonder if you might be a (closet?) U2
fan(?)
They have a great! song about this
subject, called _The Real Thing_
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:08:34 -0600
"Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
..the God of the Jews [i]s
the real thi
Izzy wrote:
> David, You are going to confuse me if you
> don't differentiate between whether you are
> talking about today (NT times) or OT times.
> I assumed you were talking about today.
> Are these all going to be trick questions?
LOL. I did not mean to make it a "trick question." The fact t
Izzy
wrote:
>
I'm not sure I understand your question. Of course both
>
of them are guilty of breaking the 10 commandments.
Are
you sure? The law commands that the Sabbath breaker be put to death by
stoning.
Therefore, only the Sabbath Breaker is guilty. The other guy
carried
I am old and I am starting to ramble, so I am
going to bed.
Terry
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Terry,
Perhaps that shows that
Izzy wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand your question. Of course both
> of them are guilty of breaking the 10 commandments.
Are you sure? The law commands that the Sabbath breaker be put to death by
stoning. Therefore, only the Sabbath Breaker is guilty. The other guy
carried out the death sen
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
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He did address it. He was wrong. The command to keep
the sabbath had no exceptions, for good works or any other endeavor. If
it had, the Pharisees
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Izzy:
If Jesus had ever sinned, He cpuld not have been the sinless sacrifice required to satisfy God, the father.
Jesus worked on the Sabbath, and was not a sinner. That tells me that working on the sa
(did not love)
God. Is that what you were asking?
Izzy
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Izzy wrote:
> Here is a websit
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Izzy:
If Jesus had ever sinned, He cpuld not have been the
sinless sacrifice required to satisfy God, the father.
Jesus worked on the Sabbath, and was not a
sinner. That tells me that working on the sabbath
Izzy wrote:
> Here is a website that I agree with regarding Sabbath-keeping:
> http://www.newwine.org/Sabbath3/Grace_b.htm.
> What do you think about it?
I thought the articles made many good points, but the author misses it when
he emphasizes keeping the Ten Commandments the way that he does. We
Izzy:
If Jesus had ever sinned, He cpuld not have been the sinless
sacrifice required to satisfy God, the father.
Jesus worked on the Sabbath, and was not a sinner. That
tells me that working on the sabbath is not a sin. Others will no doubt
see it differently, but my Lord said that man
M
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Sabbath
I found this article about keeping the Sabbath to be
well written. It is full of whole truths. The whole site seems to
be concerned with salvational matters, with a fearless dialog about end time
prophesy and events.
They may run i
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:26:44 -0600
"ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I can’t get over
it: this is exactly what the Holy Spirit has been teaching
me! It’s like an epiphany moment to find confirmation of what I
could not put into words.
Izzy
now you sound like Einstei
I found this article about keeping the Sabbath to be well
written. It is full of whole truths. The whole site seems to be
concerned with salvational matters, with a fearless dialog about end time
prophesy and events.
They may run into problems by setting dates based upon
incomplete inf
By the way, the home page is just http://www.newwine.org/. You might
want to read the first chapter titled The Doctrine of Grace (A-1) first.
I can’t get over it: this is exactly what the Holy Spirit has been
teaching me! It’s like an epiphany moment to find confirmation of what I
could
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