Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
A man may be Theologically knowing while spiritually DEAD.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me get this straight JD. By Rad Fundies you are talking about people who believe Genesis as it is written - Right??PS What is wrong with the Carroll Dean's and the Pat Robertsons of

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
ORY.ORG>Sent: March 22, 2006 10:50Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Lance wrote: One's time would be better spent reading some noteworthy novelists than noteworthy creationists. Lift up Jesus and, creationISM, will fall away as it should. I can't say that I agree with y

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
al Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 22, 2006 14:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on CreationismLet me get this straight JD. By Rad Fundies you are talking about people who believe Genesis as it is written - Right??PS What is wrong with t

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Some charge that RW has No Absolute Morals!RW says "I have to distinguish plainly between personal theories and interpretations and the majority conviction of my Church"So opinions of Men as in the Majority consensus of his CHURCH is his Absolute guide!

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
I would rather FROTH at the mouth and attempt something than be a nothing, a 0 as far as evangelism goes![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Paul opposed the intolerant legalists in the church and so will I while, at the same time, writing the words of Romans 14. He is one of my mentors -- I will do

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Let me get this straight JD.By Rad Fundies you are talking about people who believe Genesis as it iswritten - Right??PS What is wrong with the Carroll Dean's and the Pat Robertsons of thisworl

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
>Sent: March 21, 2006 13:12Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Yup is right, but how does he get from this thought to the idea that creationism should not be considered in schools? I hate it when theologians are embarassed of giving glory to the Creator in school. David Mi

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
froth around the edges of the lips. -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then maybe you can flesh it out for the rest of us. I am sure Lance can not/will not I am sure we can see the difference, but just what are the symptoms of that particular

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you a grad of the Ur Mutha Wears Kombat Boots school of apologetics?One thing is for sure you always deal with the real issues![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:froth around the edges of the lips.-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then maybe

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
So which fundamentalist version of creation do you support. That A E were spirit people. A 6000 year date or a 10,000 or an "unknown" e.t. ? The version that says it took God 144 hours to speak words that canbe spoken in 24 seconds !!! I just did it in 24 big ones !! including a drink of water

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Someone said render to Cesear what is Cesear's [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:So which fundamentalist version of creation do you support. That A E were spirit people. A 6000 year date or a 10,000 or an "unknown" e.t. ? The version that says it took God 144 hours to speak words that canbe spoken in

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
I surmised as much JD; my point being that religious ppl have many and varied points of view about anything and everything and this is no measure by which to gauge what is needful or true. On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:20:02 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you even know what this thread is

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
We are still waitig ! -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone said render to Cesear what is Cesear's [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So which fundamentalist version of creation do you support. That A E were spirit people. A 6000 year date or a

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the school systemsand you are talking about religious people!!! Amazing Maybe we should install a different creationist version for every major school system ... I am sure we can find enough fundy ideas to go around. That way , you

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
So true, so true KD On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:54:02 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A man may be Theologically knowing while spiritually DEAD.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me get this straight JD. By Rad Fundies you are talking about

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Some ppl are willing to let God be God JD The secret things belong to the Lord and as Kevin says; let the ppl serving Caesar fumble around and follow whatever way the wind is blowing. On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:34:20 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone said render to

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Well of course you couldn't tell them the Truth JD could you? I mean after all He is a Rock of offense and it might offend the Muslims We are responsible to instruct our own children - The public schools don't care what view anyone on TT holds do they? On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:22:56 +

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Sure because this is what you are talking about JD; ppl of faith believe God's Word and wait for Him to give them understanding. Religious ppl have all kinds of theories, big bang, black holes, and on and on. You don't need to worry about fundies or school systems JD because you don't have

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Let's have them Teach Dominion Theology in school ; )[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in the school systemsand you are talking about religious people!!! Amazing Maybe we should install a different creationist version for every major school system

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Why don't one of you POTENTATES fix it. Or get your self some Pope or Protestant for a Politician. This would be the specialty of the Reformed Catholics, they are gonna bring in the kingdom ya know they are the promised people (JEWS) and they are gonna bring us all kicking and screaming into

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
The schools have bigger problems to deal with. But maybe that is the planJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure because this is what you are talking about JD; ppl of faith believe God's Word and wait for Him to give them understanding. Religious ppl have all kinds of theories, big bang,

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
what on earth are you talking about, Judy !!! Secret things ??? So you decided to just stay off subject? Whatever. -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some ppl are willing to let God be God JD The secret things belong to the Lord and as Kevin

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
And sure enough, you did this very thing -- Be sure to answer with "the right one, John -- duh !! Your wording a little different, but it is the same ridiculous non-answer. -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well of course you couldn't tell them

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress
myth (this writersubjugates us to her narrow notions, permits usnofaith in God per se) On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:08 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .. jt: ppl of faith believe God's Word

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress
..tt evidence suggestsher nn's ain't biblical On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:29:20 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (this writersubjugates us to her narrow notions, permits usnofaith in God per se) On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:08 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress
..*implicitly* On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:44:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..tt evidence suggestsher nn's ain't biblical On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:29:20 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (this writersubjugates us to her narrow notions, permits usnofaith in God

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread ttxpress
..partic as "Word" isher trick word On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:29 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..*implicitly* On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:44:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..tt evidence suggestsher nn's ain't biblical On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:29:20 -0700

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise
"Believe in God's word" is fundy code for "believe as I do." When we have been dispersed, take with you the knowledge that not one single Rad Fundy has given any of us a clue as to what "doctrine" they are talking about. You must obey the commandments !!! they yell to the others. What

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Well Mr. Teacher - what is the "right answer?" An opinion that is the same as yours? Why can't we deal with a little reality here at the last. On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:26:31 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And sure enough, you did this very thing -- Be sure to answer with "the right one,

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor
JD you are not keeping good company here - but then as the old adage goes"birds of a feather" You really should discuss what you know about and it is obvious that you know nothing about Rad Fundy's "Walking after the Spirit" or being a "doer of God's Word" rather than a deceived hearer only.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread knpraise
The world in which we live would reject any mention of God in the evolutionary process, IMO. But creationism in the schools? Could that not be considered the beginnings of a fanatical fundamentalist take-over of the culture? But to allow a mere statement that suggests God is somehow in control

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
: March 21, 2006 12:15 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism And for most of the history of Christianity ... there's been an awareness that a belief that everything depends on the creative act of God is quite compatible with a degree of uncertainty or latitude about how precisely

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller
John wrote: The world in which we live would reject any mention of God in the evolutionary process, IMO. But creationism in the schools? Could that not be considered the beginnings of a fanatical fundamentalist take-over of the culture? ROTFLOL. I sure hope youwere being facetious on

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
DM says In case you did not notice, the fundamentalists are not causing the acknowledgement of our Creator to be forbidden in schools. It is the liberal loonies like this Archbishop of Canterbury who are doing this. Some around here are concerned that there are FUNDIES lurking around every

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread knpraise
Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I do. I know this -- there isn't a single view of creationism that is agreed upon by the whole church. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] John wrote: The world in which we live would reject

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
JD says Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I do. He too is afraid of fundamentalists? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Perhaps the Bishop has the same concerns I do. I know this -- there isn't a single view of creationism that is agreed upon by the whole church. jd--

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread knpraise
Well --- I really do not know his reasoning.. hence the wording "perhaps " I have a friend, a math teacher in high school. He had to teach biology for a semester. He decided he was put his career on the line and make a statement ,in class, that was pro-creation. Before he made his

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
If fundamental Christianity is a problem for you, of what spirit are you? iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:15 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Whom do you ask the guys who think DM Judy are Fundies?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If fundamental Christianity is a problem for you, of what spirit are you? iz-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Tuesday, March 21,

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