Dave, thanks for taking the time to reply. I have stated my position
already, and do not need to repeat them. I have nothing new to add to what I
have already written.
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DAVEH: Sorry to take so long responding to your previous post of last
month, Perry. I'm slowly trying to catch up on my email traffic!
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DAVEH: Do you think the foreknowledge of God figures into
the passage Slade originally quoted...
As he passed by, he
Judy, I am sorry I did not see this earlier. I will certainly be praying. I
hope you do go to Austin. You will be a great help.
Bill
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Judy, I'm so saddened to hear this. You and your family remain in my
prayers. Izzy
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We have just lea
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DAVEH: I understand that is common Christian belief.. But, I would think
there is a reason the common beliefs evolved that way. I thought there
might be a passage in the Bible that would persuade Christian thought to
develop along that line of reasoning.
DAVE
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
We consider Jesus to be one person of the
Trinity, all of which are God. Angels are created beings distinct in
nature from humans. They most likely pre-existed human creation, and
humans are a unique creation apart from angels. Humans did not
pre-exist their birt
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Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Sorry to jump into your discussion, DaveH,
DAVEH: No problem, Perry. I appreciate your viewpoint and comments.
but I think something important needs to be pointed out with respect to
the LDS view of Angels, Jesus, and humans.
DAVEH w
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I
would love to hear Slade’s response to this post. Izzy
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DAVEH wrote: Thank you for your
below response, Slade. However, would you be so kind as to explain what
there is in the Bible that makes you think there is not a pre-mortal existence
of our spirits? IOW.are there any passages that lead you to think our
spirits did not exist prior to o
HaOlam (repairing the
world).
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slade
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Slade,
You must admit that there ar
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Judy Taylor wrote:
I
didn't make any rule about the 'curse
lighting'
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Judy Taylor wrote:
I didn't make any rule about the 'curse
lighting' Terry but it is in God's Word. In the exceptions you give it was
Pharoah who hardened his own heart (I think it was 8 times) before God finally
hardened it for good before
From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I did not say you made
any rule. I said there are exceptions to
rules. I am not talking about Calvin or reformed faith, and making a man blind is not evil when God does it. He
is the potter. He has the right to use the clay to glorify Himself .
Judy Taylor wrote:
I didn't make any rule about the 'curse
lighting' Terry but it is in God's Word. In the exceptions you give it
was Pharoah who hardened his own heart (I think it was 8 times) before
God finally hardened it for good before which he had plenty of
opportunities to g
I would love to hear Slade’s response to this post. Izzy
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Actually, the person of God
never changes but His administration does. Obviously.
For example -- the fact that His original covenant i
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God Himself says that the sins of the fathers are visited upon the children unto the 4th and sometimes the 10th generation. When did His personality change?
JudyT
Actually, the person of God never changes b
ion. I cannot see it.
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slade
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D
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Sorry to jump into your discussion, DaveH,
DAVEH: No problem, Perry. I appreciate your viewpoint and comments.
but I think something important needs to be pointed out
with respect to the LDS view of Angels, Jesus, and humans.
DAVEH wrote: If Jesus could
Sorry to jump into your discussion, DaveH, but I think something important
needs to be pointed out with respect to the LDS view of Angels, Jesus, and
humans.
DAVEH wrote: If Jesus could pre-exist, why not others? Jer 1:4-5 seems
evidential. And, Job (38:4-7) speaks of the morning stars and s
DAVEH: From my (LDS) perspective, I believe stories to which you are
referring could be true (midrash (parable) stories of souls speaking with God
before they're implanted in a body on earth) And,
they would be further evidence of a pre-mortal existence of our
spirits.
I do
no
Judy Taylor wrote:
Can you show me in the scriptures why this
belief is aberrant Lance? Are you one of those who believe the
disciples asking this question were 'ignorant' and didn't know any
better? Arn't you the one who keeps saying that I an the victim of
enlightenment thinking
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Let me try that again
If all A's are B's and all B's are C's, then all C's are A's... right?
This was not true the last time I spoke with my ex-wife. But, I am not sure what the conclusion of that d
Judy:Sad to observe that you actually believe this.
How utterly aberrant.
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Taylor
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Hi Slade:
Thank you for posting this scripture. I know a lot
This might be an interesting study.
-- slade
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DAVEH: Sl
Let me
try that again
If all
A's are B's and all B's are C's, then all C's are A's...
right?
This,
too, is a minor point of difference. While I agree with Scripture that an
"UNdeserved curse goes NOwhere," I do not necessarily believe the exact opposite
occurs every time. If so, none of us would exist this very day. I
trust the words of Yeshua who said that the man's plight was not
Judy, it seems great to me that you have friends whom you have never met praying for you and your Jenna. I don't doubt that these prayers are a fervent as those belonging to your personal friends and congregation.
God will bless
John
In a message dated 6/26/2004 1:36:39 PM Pacific Dayl
There
are many midrash (parable) stories of souls speaking with God before they're
implanted in a body on earth, but I've always understood those stories to tell a
greater theological or moral story... but that the story was not factual. I know
of no one who dogmatically believes in the pree
DAVEH: SladeI've always viewed this passage as good evidence
the Jews at the time of Jesus believed in an existence before birth.
How do you view the underlying message of this passage?
Slade Henson wrote:
As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth.
His students asked him, "Rabbi,
wh
Thank you Bill and all:
We had a bad storm yesterday with thunder, lightning, and some tornadoes south of us
which zapped our phone line. I am at our daughter's house now using Juno webmail, they
say the repairman will be out tomorrow between 8-5pm. Jenna has been discharged from
the hospital,
Hey Judy,
Is there any news on your grandaughter. We're all praying for her and the
family. I am terribly sorry for all they\you must be going through.
Our Prayers,
Bill
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man
As he passed by, he saw a man blind from
birth. His students asked
him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or
his parents, that he was born blind?" Yeshua answered, "Neither did this
man sin, nor his parents; but, that the works of God might be revealed in
him. (John 9:1-3)
--
slade
-Or
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What sin could have brought such a thing on a 3 year old?
I going to take a wild guess and say "none." More than likely , there is a medical reason for Jenna's illness. If sin is involved, it is the sin o
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\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua
!!
They believe
it is leukemia
and
Jenna was to have a blood transfusion last night.
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From: Judy Taylor
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Would those of you who have a heart for prayer please put our 3yr old grandaughter
Jenna on your list. Our TX family have been in Orlando since Monday on vacation -
they noticed Jenna was lethargic and h
Judy, I hate to hear this awful scary news, but trust that the Lord
has a plan for His glory. I pray
the Lord will put Jenna on my mind often so I can keep her lifted in prayer
constantly. Izzy
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\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of
YahShua !!
They believe it is leukemia
and Jenna was to have a blood transfusion last
night.
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From: Judy Taylor
Sent: 06/25/2004 8:11 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Prayer Request
... we are gratefu
Chris Barr wrote:
If
you will check your Bible Chris, I believe you will find that it was
the first sin that did the damage. From then on, bad things happened
to good people.
Terry
\o/
!HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the
Matchless Name of YahShua !!
Sure
thing, Judy.
A 52
hour drive? It should be less than 20.
Kay
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Would those
Amen here! Lance
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You can count on our prayers Judy. Keep us
posted.TerryJudy Taylor wrote:
Would those of you who
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of
YahShua !!
What sin could have brought such a thing on
a 3 year old?
Ahava b' YahShua
Baruch YHVH,
Bro.
Chris
a servant
of YHVH
You can count on our prayers Judy. Keep us posted.
Terry
Judy Taylor wrote:
Would those of you who have a heart for
prayer please put our 3yr old grandaughter
Jenna on your list. Our TX family have
been in Orlando since Monday on vacation -
they noticed Jenna was lethargic a
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He has shown me that I should realize that every trial and tribulation that He allows (not sends, necessarily, but allows) is for a purpose: (1) to test my faith, (2) to refine and strengthen me, and ultimatel
our choice. I choose to
glorify Jesus, by His strength and His power and His Spirit, amen. When I am weak, HE is strong. Praise the
Name of Jesus!
Izzy
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I certainly will pray. Keep us posted. Laura
, amen. When I am weak, HE is strong. Praise the
Name of Jesus!
Izzy
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I certainly will pray. Keep us
I certainly will pray. Keep us posted. Laura
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Growth at the expense of Truth is not real growth it is simply more Error!
No kidding.
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jt: When Jesus spoke of unity and when Paul wrote of reconciliation they were both speaking of unifying around
Judy writes > "If you love me you will do what
I say" that's [Jesus'] definition of love.
Maybe.
Or maybe its a consequence of loving him, and out-working of love itself. Maybe
we should look a little deeper for our "definition."
Bill Taylor
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jt: When Jesus spoke of unity and when Paul wrote of reconciliation they were both speaking of
unifying around truth and the only way we are reconciled to God is to agree with Him by first
accepting and then
Blaine, I draw the line at an outright brawl. Izzy
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Blaine: I
think TT is neither of the
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Blaine: I think TT is neither of the devil nor of God. It is nothing more nor less than the summation of its parts--individuals all coming from different backgrounds and seeking to reconcile differences.
Blaine: I think TT is neither of the devil
nor of God. It is nothing more nor less than the summation of its
parts--individuals all coming from different backgrounds and seeking to
reconcile differences. Some of us listen, others just expect to be
listened to. Egos play a major role on TT
Truth Talk thou art loosed![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Dear TruthTalkers, I suggest we spend the rest of this day praying for TruthTalk, and doing spiritual warfare against demonic spirits being sent to cause c
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Dear TruthTalkers,
I suggest we spend the rest of this day praying for TruthTalk, and doing spiritual warfare against demonic spirits being sent to cause contention, strife, rudeness and accusations. The
PS
I also suggest that we pray for David Miller and his family today. Izzy
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Dear
TruthTalkers,
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