RE: Do we plan to move to JUnit 4.1?

2006-07-06 Thread Meeraj Kunnumpurath
I have been looking at TestNG lately. It is lot better than Junit 3.8.1. However, I think lot of those features are incorporated in Junit 4.0. I am not sure about the Maven support for TestNG. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Boynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 July 2006 02:10 To:

Re: C++ M1 Release Candidate

2006-07-06 Thread Pete Robbins
There is a problem with the Windows src zip for sca to do with filename lengths. I will fix it and re-post a new zip. On 06/07/06, Pete Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have posted a candidate for the first C++ release here. http://people.apache.org/~robbinspg/RC1 Would all interested

Re: Tuscany Icon

2006-07-06 Thread Andrew Borley
My favourite so far is one of Ed's: http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)LogoCandidates/attachments/tusc_mod9.jpg On 7/6/06, haleh mahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Ed posted in black and brown looks good. Maybe we can get rid of some of the trees and make it simpler.

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Jim Marino
Comments inline, thanks for some of the clarifications... On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jim Marino wrote: On Jul 3, 2006, at 5:34 AM, ant elder wrote: One of the big reasons for me is summed up well in Sebastien's proposal: This will get our community

Re: Do we plan to move to JUnit 4.1?

2006-07-06 Thread Jim Marino
My big thing with JUnit4 is that it finally allows initializer methods to be called at instantiation, although I haven't had much need for this in Tuacany. One thing we should be careful of in deciding to use JUnit4 is integration with mock object frameworks. Currently, in core2 and in the

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-516) Annotating generated SDO Types for the associated 'Factory' and 'Package' generated classes

2006-07-06 Thread Venkatakrishnan (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-516?page=comments#action_12419444 ] Venkatakrishnan commented on TUSCANY-516: - In the approach that I am following to map SDOs to XSDs, I instantiate the SDO in order to be able to access it 'Type'

Re: Email versus IRC

2006-07-06 Thread Andrew Borley
On 7/6/06, Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at the squash courts ;-) That's for the healthy, athletic guys - us cooler types hang out behind the bike sheds, smoking woodbines and cracking jokes ;-)

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Simon Nash
Jeremy, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: cut/ I just checked in sandbox/sebastien/m2-design/model.spi a set of new interfaces. This is just an initial strawman to trigger a constructive discussion and ideas on how to best represent the

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-153) ChangeSummary on root data object not supported

2006-07-06 Thread Kelvin Goodson (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-153?page=comments#action_12419452 ] Kelvin Goodson commented on TUSCANY-153: When I run XSD2JavaGenerator against the test.xsd in the supplied jar I get very different generated code from that found

Re: C++ M1 Release Candidate

2006-07-06 Thread Pete Robbins
The problem appears to be that WinXP expanding of a compressed folder can not expand the tuscany_sca_cpp-0.1.incubating-M1-src.zip (despite the fact that it was used to create the zip in the first place!). This zip can be successfully extracted using WinZip or even jar -xf so I am not going to

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Jim Marino
On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Simon Nash wrote: Jeremy, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: cut/ I just checked in sandbox/sebastien/m2-design/model.spi a set of new interfaces. This is just an initial strawman to trigger a constructive

Re: C++ M1 Release Candidate

2006-07-06 Thread Edward Slattery
Ive downloaded and built the src distro on Windows using the command line, devstudio6 and devstudio7. The builds all work fine, but the calculator sample on studio7 only half works as the project descriptions are missing some of the proxies/wrappers. Add works but Div doesnt. Im just going to fix

Re: Email versus IRC

2006-07-06 Thread Jim Marino
You'll get a rise of this: I'm in Rome now and the other day I was out doing my run, all sweaty, in terrible heat, and I run past this women and she asks if I have a lighter for her cigarette :-) Classic Italy. Jim On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:10 AM, Andrew Borley wrote: On 7/6/06, Jim Marino

Re: Tuscany Icon

2006-07-06 Thread kelvin goodson
I'm like this, http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)LogoCandidates/attachments/tuscanylogo_candidate1.jpg but I think it might be too colourful and I like the idea of bringing out the sca in Tuscany as shown in

Re: Tuscany Icon

2006-07-06 Thread Davanum Srinivas
missing a bottle of wine? :) On 7/6/06, kelvin goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm like this, http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)LogoCandidates/attachments/tuscanylogo_candidate1.jpg but I think it might be too colourful and I like the idea of bringing out the sca in

Re: [jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-153) ChangeSummary on root data object not supported

2006-07-06 Thread Frank Budinsky
Brent, The JavaDoc for the -noNotification generator option says it all: * -noNotification * This option eliminates all change notification overhead in the generated classes. Changes to * DataObjects generated using this option cannot be recorded, and consequently the

Re: Do we plan to move to JUnit 4.1?

2006-07-06 Thread Kevin Williams
I would much rather wait for the Surefire/JUnit 4 integration ( http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SUREFIRE-31 ) than switch to another testing framework. --Kevin Daniel Kulp wrote: Actually, Maven supports TestNG natively in the Surefire plugin. I've tried it before and it does work.

Re: Support for callbacks

2006-07-06 Thread Jim Marino
Hi Ignacio, Sorry about the delay...Comments inline. I've also added some scenarios to the wiki so feel free to add your thoughts to them. Jim On Jul 5, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Ignacio Silva-Lepe wrote: Hi Jim, Sorry about the disconnect, I was out Monday and yesterday. I'll be sure to

Raymond's data transformation framework checked in for core2

2006-07-06 Thread Jim Marino
Thanks to Raymond, we have the start of an extensible data transformation framework for core2. I've checked it in for him but have not added it to the build since I couldn't get the plugins to download properly (it may just be the maven repo at Sun was down). Raymond, could you take a look

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Simon Nash wrote: Jeremy, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: cut/ I just checked in sandbox/sebastien/m2-design/model.spi a set of new interfaces. This is just an initial strawman to trigger a constructive

RE: Raymond's data transformation framework checked in for core2

2006-07-06 Thread Liu, Jervis
Hi, this is a good news. I will try to use this in Celtix binding. Thanks, Jervis -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/6/2006 (星期四) 11:17 下午 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: Subject: Raymond's data

RE: Support for callbacks

2006-07-06 Thread Meeraj Kunnumpurath
I have got an implementation based on Doug Lea's concurrent utilities (JDK 1.4), I think this can be ported to use Java 5 concurrent libraries. If you don't mind, I can start looking at this. -Original Message- From: Jim Marino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 July 2006 16:12 To:

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread ant elder
Jeremy, as you know, its been holidays in the US this week and that will be why Sebastien was quiet over the weekend and Monday and Tuesday. I've found all his past posts on this sandbox topic most constructive and helpful. ...ant On 7/6/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 6,

Re: C++ M1 Release Candidate

2006-07-06 Thread Pete Robbins
OK... there are a couple of fixes for VC7 compilation plus some copyright/licence issues that will be resolved. I will respin the distro in the next few hours and put up the candidate for a vote. On 06/07/06, Edward Slattery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive downloaded and built the src distro on

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Kenneth Tam
On 7/5/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: My proposal is not to merge M1 and the core2 sandbox. I am proposing to start a new fresh code stream and build the runtime through baby steps. We may be able to reuse some pieces of

RMI Binding

2006-07-06 Thread Jeremy Boynes
As discussed on IRC this morning, I have checked Venkat's RMI binding code from TUSCANY-467 into the sandbox. This is still based on the M1 implementation but we wanted to have something in SVN to act as a baseline for discussion. It will not compile at this time so I have not incorporated

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Simon Nash
Jeremy, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Simon Nash wrote: cut/ The point here is not how large someone's code is but whether they are working with others in the community. As you point out, there has been quite a bit of discussion over the last few days on how we should

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Simon Nash
Jim Marino wrote: cut/ We will only reach the right conclusion on this important debate if we all engage constructively at a technical level and evaluate new contributions and ideas in an open-minded way. Your apparent characterization of Sebastien's constructive engagement in this

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Jul 6, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Simon Nash wrote: Jeremy, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Simon Nash wrote: cut/ The point here is not how large someone's code is but whether they are working with others in the community. As you point out, there has been quite a bit of

[VOTE] Publish Tuscany C++ M1 release

2006-07-06 Thread Pete Robbins
I have posted a candidate for the first C++ release here: http://people.apache.org/~robbinspg/RC1 The code is tagged in svn: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/tags/cpp-0.1.incubating-M1/ http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/tags/cpp-0.1.incubating-M1/%C2%A0 Please

Re: Email versus IRC

2006-07-06 Thread Jeremy Boynes
I'd like to see if I can recap where this thread went. There seem to be two sets of opinion: 1) that regular scheduled chats are helpful 2) that impromptu, unscheduled chats are helpful In light of this, I'd like to propose the following IRC policy for the project: == We will hold a

Re: Raymond's data transformation framework checked in for core2

2006-07-06 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, Jim. Thank you for checking them into the sandbox. Here's a patch enabling the build and test for all the projects. I found out the Sun's jaxb-impl 2.0.1 has an incorrect dependency to jaxb-api 2.0.1 which doesn't exist. I downgraded it to jaxb-impl 2.0. I'll post a list of features and

Re: Email versus IRC

2006-07-06 Thread Pete Robbins
+1 that just about covers it from my point of view. I'd also be interested in experimenting with a 1hr email session. Email is pretty fast nowadays and refreshing and responding via the mailing list could also work. It would also remove the really annoying thing about IRC which is the loss of

Re: Email versus IRC

2006-07-06 Thread Jim Marino
On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I'd like to see if I can recap where this thread went. There seem to be two sets of opinion: 1) that regular scheduled chats are helpful 2) that impromptu, unscheduled chats are helpful In light of this, I'd like to propose the following IRC

using stdcxx in tuscany/C++

2006-07-06 Thread Martin Sebor
Hi, We have heard that the Tuscany developers have been exploring the option of using Apache stdcxx as the common implementation of the C++ Standard Library for Tuscany/C++. We are wondering whether this is in fact the case and, if so, what the stdcxx team can do in order to make it as smooth as

Re: using stdcxx in tuscany/C++

2006-07-06 Thread Pete Robbins
Hi Martin. Using stdcxx is certainly on our list of things to investigate. There are 2 ways in which we can use a C++ standard library: 1) Internally withing our own implementation code 2) Exposed on user APIs We currently use stl within our implementation and the use of stl classes on our

Re: using stdcxx in tuscany/C++

2006-07-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Great news! Thanks for keeping us in the loop. Martin Sebor wrote: Hi, We have heard that the Tuscany developers have been exploring the option of using Apache stdcxx as the common implementation of the C++ Standard Library for Tuscany/C++. We are wondering whether this is in fact the case

Steps twords graduations

2006-07-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
FYI I'm very satisfied with the overall progress of stdcxx, but see two obstacles to graduation; * the bug tracking system is being well utilized to discuss patches, but the dev list is still a bit quiet on the design-decision front. It's important that decisions are open and not made in

Re: Email versus IRC

2006-07-06 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Jul 6, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Jim Marino wrote: On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: We will also hold pre-announced chats at other times so try and bring closure to issues that seem to be dragging on in email threads. The point of these is to come to a decision and such

Re: Email versus IRC

2006-07-06 Thread Kenneth Tam
On 7/6/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 6, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Jim Marino wrote: On Jul 6, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: We will also hold pre-announced chats at other times so try and bring closure to issues that seem to be dragging on in email threads. The

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Kenneth Tam
On 7/6/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 6, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Simon Nash wrote: All ideas that Sebastien has proposed are being considered - we had a long discussion on these very things on IRC this morning. The main questions being asked about his proposal are what is the

Re: Email versus IRC

2006-07-06 Thread Jim Marino
yea that's cool. I just thought if a decision was made on IRC it couldn't be undone by a vote on the list. I like the idea of using quick chats to clear out lingering things and then have them ratified on the list. Jim On Jul 6, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Jul 6, 2006, at

Re: C++ M1 Release Candidate

2006-07-06 Thread Luciano Resende
Hi Pete I took sometime to look at the C++ M1 Release candidate and I have the following feedback... Please keep in mind that my C++ skills is not one of my biggest strengths as of today, so, some feedback might be due to lack of involvement with C++ for couple of years... Also note that I

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Jeremy, I won't comment on your attacks at the bottom of this email. I was hoping for a more constructive technical discussion. I added my answers and comments on the specific technical issues inline. Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: My

Re: Proposed approach for M2

2006-07-06 Thread Jim Marino
Comments inline On Jul 6, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jeremy, I won't comment on your attacks at the bottom of this email. I was hoping for a more constructive technical discussion. I added my answers and comments on the specific technical issues inline. Jeremy Boynes

DAS named parameters

2006-07-06 Thread Kevin Williams
I am in the middle of removing the named parameter feature of DAS command and notice that we currently allow a special convenience name to allow a client to retrieve a database generated ID from a low-level insert command like this: DAS das = DAS.FACTORY.createDAS(getConnection());

Re: RMI Binding

2006-07-06 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Venkat, I know I said on IRC this morning I would try an post some comments on migrating this but I am afraid that things today have kept me distracted. I will be on IRC early tomorrow morning, I hope that is not too late for you. -- Jeremy On Jul 6, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Jeremy Boynes

Re: Email versus IRC

2006-07-06 Thread Venkata Krishnan
+1 and I stick to my earlier suggestion that the topics of discussion be fixed ahead over the mailing list instead of choosing the topics over the list and then actually picking them up for discussion only in the IRC. Choosing them ahead brings in a committment that a topic would surely get

Re: RMI Binding

2006-07-06 Thread Venkata Krishnan
I have a call late tonight. Hence I should be able to catch up with you on the IRC. Thanks. Venkat On 7/7/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Venkat, I know I said on IRC this morning I would try an post some comments on migrating this but I am afraid that things today have kept me