On 6/12/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any non-infinite version number requires making some assumption
about the future compatibility of the 3rd party library. Without
a crystal ball, this will be hard to get right every time. This
is why I am suggesting a more conservative
Ant,
I am not sure how relevant this is, but in the context of versioning Tuscany
for OSGi, Tuscany modules are being built as OSGi bundles with real
versions (eg. the current build uses 2.0). The version used is not
currently derived from the maven version, instead it is specified
independently
On 6/13/08, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are the OSGI real versions required to be numeric, which would also mean
1.x wouldn't work so well as a version for OSGi right?
Yes, the versions need to be numeric, 1.x wont work.
...ant
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Rajini Sivaram
. The SpringSource repository, for example, seems to allow
this, although I'm no legal expert [2].
Regards, Graham.
[1] http://commons.apache.org/releases/versioning.html
[2]
http://www.springsource.com/repository/app/faq;jsessionid=3F9467729AC282FE4E08199FDCE40863#q6
2008/6/11 Rajini Sivaram
On 6/12/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am very pleased to see this discussion happening. My thoughts below.
Simon
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
On 6/12/08, Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rajini, I think your summary on the wiki is great. I have a couple
of comments
On 6/10/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ant elder wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simon Nash wrote:
ant elder wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Following on from the discussion on OSGi-enabling third party libraries (
http://markmail.org/message/snltdk2yovr6maq5), this thread addresses the
options for versioning Tuscany bundles and 3rd party libraries distributed
with Tuscany and the implications of choosing these options. I have put
this already, but others may find Neil Bartlett's
discussion useful:
http://www.eclipsezone.com/articles/extensions-vs-services/
I dont actually have an opinion, just pointing to the docs.
Regards, Graham.
2008/6/11 ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Rajini Sivaram
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Hi all,
I have started a discussion
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Daniel,
Do you have a date that you
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Daniel,
Thank you for doing this. I
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Daniel,
Now that is good progress
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Daniel,
It still looks like a problem
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Daniel,
Could you run the test
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Daniel,
I have been staring
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Daniel,
I had installed and started
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Daniel,
The latest stack trace looks
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Daniel,
I am not sure I missed
Kelvin,
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you - I can see that you have found
a solution. Yes, you are absolutely right, the felix framework should use
scope provided since SdoBundleActivator is only used when SDO is running
inside an OSGi container, and the framework classes are provided
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Daniel,
I tried out your test
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I have committed some changes
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Attachment: samples-calculator-osgi-runtime-patch.txt
Graham,
I have attached
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Georg,
Thank you for the list
to make
progress will be to use a bundle for your java component.
Regards
Roshan
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Sebastian,
Thank you for the update
On 5/29/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
Simon,
A couple of comments inline...
On 5/28/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for the long delay in responding. I have been deeply buried
in implementing the new WSDL-less support, and I am only just
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Georg,
I realized that some
On 5/28/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Graham Charters wrote:
I've been wondering whether we should make this an itest rather than a
sample. We could keep it as a sample, but it relies on
maven-dependency-plugin to work out the dependencies required to run
the sample. Is a sample
On 5/28/08, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Graham Charters wrote:
I've been wondering whether we should make this an itest rather than a
sample. We could keep it as a sample, but it relies on
Simon,
A few comments inline...
On 5/29/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
There is no technical reason why we can't store 3rd party jars separately
and merge them at runtime to create virtual bundles, rather than
distribute real
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Am I right in assuming that you
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Georg,
Thank you for the details
Can we decide on a solution for OSGi-enabling 3rd party libs (either in the
distribution or using virtual bundles), so that we can start tackling issues
like versioning (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2343)?
On 5/16/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jean-Sebastien Delfino
On 5/28/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One comment inline.
Simon
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Simon,
A couple of comments inline...
On 5/28/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for the long delay in responding. I have been deeply buried
in implementing the new WSDL-less support, and I am only just
surfacing to follow up on other threads. Comments inline.
Simon
Rajini
Simon,
Do we actually expect to always find a monitor implementation on the
classpath? If so, I think we should throw an exception earlier on if no
monitor implementation was found, rather than a NullPointerException masking
the original exception when something does go wrong. But shouldn't we
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Graham,
I tried out the test (listed
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Graham,
For some reason, I
Graham,
Is there any reason you didn't switch over to one-bundle-per-3rdparty jar?
I have replaced the manifest.jar file in itest/osgi-tuscany with an
osgi-installer.jar which accepts both absolute and relative pathnames for
jar files. The tests generate and use absolute pathnames, avoiding jar
Hello,
With the latest codebase, I get intermittent exceptions thrown from the
extension samples - the following exception is from samples/binding-echo. It
looks like the schemas are not in the order they are expected to be in
(sample-binding-echo.xsd and tuscany-sca.xsd). Since the schema list
On 5/16/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Simon Nash wrote:
... snip
I believe that if we are serious about making OSGi-enablement of Tuscany
a
first class option, we should consider doing 1). For the longer term to
support versioning of 3rd party
On 5/15/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
Hello,
Following on from the discussion in thread [1], and based on Sebastien's
comments [2], we need to make a decision on the best way forward to
OSGi-enable third party libraries used by Tuscany
On 5/15/08, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:13 AM, Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
Hello,
Following on from the discussion in thread [1], and based on Sebastien's
comments [2], we need to make a decision
Hello,
Following on from the discussion in thread [1], and based on Sebastien's
comments [2], we need to make a decision on the best way forward to
OSGi-enable third party libraries used by Tuscany.
The options we have are:
1. Add OSGi manifest entries to all 3rd party jars in the Tuscany
On 5/12/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
At the moment, itest/osgi-tuscany generates a manifest jar file called
tuscany-sca-manifest.jar using a copy of the pom in distribution. I was
hoping that we could use a single jar for both OSGi and non
Raymond/Mike,
Thank you for your responses.
I like the idea that it is the responsibility of the binding provider to
ensure that data is correctly copied for cross-classloader calls. But will
that require the default binding.sca to be aware of classloaders? I will
have to look at the code in
On 5/13/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
Can't it just be much simpler than that?
- 1 bundle per dependency JAR
- containing the OSGi metadata describing that JAR and what it
actually
imports/exports?
Yes, that is the goal
). If
cross-classloader data mapping is specific to OSGi and unlikely to occur in
other scenarios in Tuscany, maybe this should be done in implementation.osgi
- what do you think?
Thanks,
Raymond
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Roshan,
Is the Java component (which
Hello,
I was looking at a JIRA related to SDO parameters to OSGi services (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2307), and was not sure
whether the following scenario is valid for standard Java services in
Tuscany.
Component A and Component B are implemented using implementation.java/
+1
On 5/10/08, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Restarting the graduation vote with the updated proposal words, please
vote
on the proposal below to graduate Tuscany to a TLP.
+1 from me.
...ant
X. Establish the Apache Tuscany Project
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be
On 5/10/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
On 5/5/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
At the moment, I am creating a single virtual 3rd party bundle. For
the
longer term, if there are use-cases
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Resolution: Fixed
Changes checked in under revision 654236.
Add OSGi manifest entries
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Rajini Sivaram closed TUSCANY-2292.
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Resolution: Fixed
Assignee: Rajini Sivaram
Fixed under revision 654236.
Remove
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Resolution: Fixed
Assignee: Rajini Sivaram
Temporary fix to use TCCL to load
On 5/5/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
At the moment, I am creating a single virtual 3rd party bundle. For the
longer term, if there are use-cases where different Tuscany extensions
require different versions of 3rd party libs, we may want
Runtime
Affects Versions: Java-SCA-1.2
Reporter: Rajini Sivaram
Priority: Minor
Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
There are three packages which are split across two modules each in Tuscany:
1) org.apache.tuscany.sca.domain - split across domain and domain-api
2
: Java SCA Assembly Model
Affects Versions: Java-SCA-1.2
Reporter: Rajini Sivaram
Priority: Minor
Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
All xsds in assembly-xsd are defined in the default package.
tuscany-sca.xsd is currently read by ReallySmallRuntimeBuilder using
Integration
Affects Versions: Java-SCA-1.2
Reporter: Rajini Sivaram
Assignee: Rajini Sivaram
Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
Details on the discussion on adding manifest entries to Tuscany modules are on
this thread:
http://marc.info/?l=tuscany-devm=120936893510825w
;-) ). I agree it's not ideal from a modularity perspective
but it does have the advantage that I think it could be introduced a
lot sooner than 4 and would therefore accelerate sensitizing folks to
the issues.
Regards, Graham.
2008/5/2 Rajini Sivaram [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 5/1/08, Jean
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Raymond,
Was the issue with maven
On 5/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Graham Charters wrote:
It would seem that the fine-grained/coarse-grained thoughts have
people divided. Rajini's note (aside from the fact she has a tonne of
experience having done most, if not all, of the OSGi work in Tuscany)
it easiest for
you to drive the modularity work.
Regards, Graham.
2008/5/2 Rajini Sivaram [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 5/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Graham Charters wrote:
It would seem that the fine-grained/coarse-grained thoughts have
people divided
On 4/30/08, Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/4/30 Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Enforcing the modularity via OSGi is a good way to validate our
modularity/extensibility story in Tuscany. I think we already have a
fairly
well organized module structure in Tuscany (from the
On 5/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My 2c:
+1 to promote OSGi to a first class Tuscany runtime environment
+1 for an OSGi continuum build (thinking about a build profile that'll run
the Tuscany itest suite in an OSGi environment, similar to the profiles we
have for
+1 from me
On 4/28/08, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We've done a lot of work since last October. We now have a diverse
community
of contributors and have demonstrated the ability to attract new
committers
to create an even more diverse community, we have shown we can do releases
Sorry about that. I have committed a fix under revision 648396.
Due to a difference in classloading between the IBM JDK that I was using for
testing and the Sun(?) JDK on Continuum, an additional class was required to
be visible from the test bundle, resulting in the NoClassDefFoundError.
I was
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Question about Conversational OSGi Services and Service
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Daniel,
I think you were seeing three
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Patch applied under revision 645290
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Luciano,
I modified all the OSGi
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Simon,
Thank you for trying out
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Thank you, Ant.
I have modified
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The version of Felix in the Tuscany
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Simon,
Could you update to the latest
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Revision 638836 removes Felix console
when the OSGi runtime is not in use ? I'm wondering how
this could affect the simple paths where no OSGI integration is
required (e.g default jar contributions and/or file system
contributions. Thoughts ?
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:20 AM, Rajini Sivaram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Ant,
If you can recreate the hang
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Thank you for the thread dump. I am
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Ant,
Thank you for the stack trace
And
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4939977
On 3/18/08, Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not sure if this is related:
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4851715.
Your thread hangs at:
at java.net.Inet4AddressImpl.getLocalHostName(Native Method)
Ant,
Did you try running without the Felix console - remove the line containing
org.apache.felix.shell.tui from
osgi-implementation\src\test\resources\osgi\felix\felix.config.properties?
On 3/18/08, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes that simple test works ok, also changing the
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Simon,
Could you delete the directory
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Resolution: Fixed
implementation.osgi cannot find compomentType file when referring
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2096:
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Jurgen,
Thank you for the patch
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2089:
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The dependency on OSGi API for non
Ant,
Thank you for testing that. I have added the new project dependency
(node2-launcher) to osgi-tuscany under revision 637945.
On 3/17/08, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I tried to build itest/osgi-tuscany to
Simon,
At the moment, bundles are generated using maven-bundle-plugin, using maven
dependencies. Because the test splits Tuscany into five bundles, it may be
tricky to automatically find the jars for each bundle (I dont know enough
about maven to do this). The build would be simpler if we had a
Simon,
Sorry about that. I hadn't done a clean build, so I didn't notice that
binding-feed-atom didn't exist anymore.
Thank you...
Regards,
Rajini
On 3/17/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ant elder wrote:
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2086:
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Thank you for the patch. It has been
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2093:
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Ant,
Can you recreate the hang
On 3/17/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
Simon,
Sorry about that. I hadn't done a clean build, so I didn't notice that
binding-feed-atom didn't exist anymore.
I did an svn up to pick up the latest itest/osgi-tuscany changes and
I got further this time
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2086:
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For your bundle named
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Rajini Sivaram closed TUSCANY-2083.
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Resolution: Fixed
GroovyClassLoader is now created using the Tuscany classloader as parent
Done for OSGi (some of the code is not committed yet, but I will get it done
in time for 1.2).
On 3/13/08, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After looking into the commit logs and other information sources, I
still don't have a good feeling of how to describe the updates around
JMS and
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2068:
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Ant,
Thank you for applying the patch
it? I'm interested in trying to fix it so i get
a better understanding of all the OSGi and class loader stuff.
...ant
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Rajini Sivaram (JIRA)
tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org wrote:
GroovyClassLoader throws NoClassDefFoundError when Tuscany is run inside
OSGi
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Rajini Sivaram closed TUSCANY-2067.
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Resolution: Fixed
Revision 637139 adds support for bundle URLs as contributions
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Rajini Sivaram reassigned TUSCANY-2086:
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Assignee: Rajini Sivaram
implementation.osgi cannot find compomentType file when
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Rajini Sivaram commented on TUSCANY-2086:
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I have modified
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