Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-26 Thread kelvin goodson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2007 17:19 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase The Junit tooling is so useful I'd be loath to drop it as the harness that the Tuscany implementation uses

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-20 Thread Andy Grove
goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2007 11:03 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase In fact I'd say for the purposed of introspection by some other harness the old style is far preferable

Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-20 Thread kelvin goodson
-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase In fact I'd say for the purposed of introspection by some other harness the old style is far preferable, since it's easy to examine the method names/signatures to determine

Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-20 Thread kelvin goodson
A quick correction on my previous note which reflects a bias towards the junit 3.8 approach that I didn't really intend. some static code that performed any real startup overhead and cached the helper. This all leads me to believing that to get true agnosticism wrt the test harness we should

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-20 Thread Andy Grove
- From: kelvin goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2007 11:03 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase In fact I'd say for the purposed of introspection by some other harness the old style

Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-20 Thread kelvin goodson
The Junit tooling is so useful I'd be loath to drop it as the harness that the Tuscany implementation uses for exercising the tests. I'm going to do a bit of playing to see what solutions are practical, but I'm concerned that we may be considering putting significant effort into a goal that's

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-20 Thread Andy Grove
. -Original Message- From: kelvin goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2007 17:19 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase The Junit tooling is so useful I'd be loath to drop

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-20 Thread Frank Budinsky
rather than putting an extra burden on developing the general purpose CTS. Thanks, Andy. -Original Message- From: kelvin goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2007 17:19 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-18 Thread Andy Grove
. -Original Message- From: Frank Budinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 April 2007 18:01 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Hi Andy, Java allows you make something more visible in a derived

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-18 Thread Andy Grove
. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kelvin goodson Sent: 17 April 2007 16:59 To: Andy Grove Cc: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Andy, that's

Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-17 Thread Simon Nash
To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: Robbie Minshall Subject: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Hi, I'm looking at doing some work in the CTS. I was looking back at Robbie's attached description about how to keep the tests harness agnostic

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-17 Thread Andy Grove
. Is everyone happy with this? Thanks, Andy. -Original Message- From: kelvin goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 April 2007 14:53 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Yes, I was about

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-17 Thread Andy Grove
- From: Frank Budinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 April 2007 17:03 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Hi Andy, Maybe this is a stupid question (my junit ignorance showing through

Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-17 Thread kelvin goodson
. -Original Message- From: kelvin goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 April 2007 14:53 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Yes, I was about to write to the list on this subject. I'd like

Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-17 Thread kelvin goodson
4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Hi, I'm looking at doing some work in the CTS. I was looking back at Robbie's attached description about how to keep the tests harness agnostic. I'm assuming that this is still a goal of the CTS although I may have missed

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-17 Thread Andy Grove
goodson Sent: 16 April 2007 14:42 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: Robbie Minshall Subject: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Hi, I'm looking at doing some work in the CTS. I was looking back at Robbie's attached

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-17 Thread Frank Budinsky
] Sent: 17 April 2007 17:03 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Hi Andy, Maybe this is a stupid question (my junit ignorance showing through :-), but couldn't you have run your simple test

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-17 Thread Andy Grove
but no dependency on the junit test runner class. Hope that helps. Andy. -Original Message- From: Simon Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 April 2007 14:35 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-17 Thread Frank Budinsky
@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Yes, I was about to write to the list on this subject. I'd like to understand more of how the test harness agnosticism was intended, and whether its really practical. As it stands

RE: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-16 Thread Andy Grove
for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Hi, I'm looking at doing some work in the CTS. I was looking back at Robbie's attached description about how to keep the tests harness agnostic. I'm assuming that this is still a goal of the CTS although I may have missed something in my

Re: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase

2007-04-16 Thread kelvin goodson
Sent: 16 April 2007 14:42 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Cc: Robbie Minshall Subject: [Java SDO CTS] Junit 4.1 pattern for calling setUp when classes don't inherit from TestCase Hi, I'm looking at doing some work in the CTS. I was looking back at Robbie's attached description about how to keep