Re: [Tutor] Thanks (was Random Number Generator)

2007-12-05 Thread bhaaluu
On Dec 4, 2007 7:21 PM, earlylight publishing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone for your help! I have no idea why it never occured to me to Google it. Thanks for the code. Now let's see if I can get this sucker to work! 1) Wikipedia -- learn a basic vocabulary so you can enter

Re: [Tutor] Random Number Generator

2007-12-05 Thread Dick Moores
At 02:41 PM 12/4/2007, bhaaluu wrote: I'm running the Python 2.4.3 interactive interpreter in a Konsole at a bash prompt: $ python help Type help() for interactive help, or help(object) for help about object. But look what I get with Python 2.5.1 and Win XP:

[Tutor] This is the online help utility [tutorial].

2007-12-05 Thread bhaaluu
Greetings, Recently a thread about Python's online help utility was buried within another thread with a different Subject. So I thought I'd try to summarize that thread within a thread in a thread of its own. It would be helpful for those running different versions of Python on differnet systems

Re: [Tutor] lstrip removes '/' unexpectedly

2007-12-05 Thread Tim Johnson
On Monday 03 December 2007, Tiger12506 wrote: ## s = '/home/test/' s1 = s.lstrip('/ehmo') s1 'test/' ## I've been having some problems posting to this list, so this is also a kind of test: I just wrote a global lstring def

Re: [Tutor] info, help, guidence,...

2007-12-05 Thread Kent Johnson
jeff witt wrote: here are a few questions that go through my head... how does python get applied to a GUI? There are many possibilities, see http://wiki.python.org/moin/CategoryPyGUI Also you can use native window toolkits on Windows and Mac. is it accepted in the world of programming

Re: [Tutor] lstrip removes '/' unexpectedly

2007-12-05 Thread Tim Johnson
On Monday 03 December 2007, Tiger12506 wrote: ## s = '/home/test/' s1 = s.lstrip('/ehmo') s1 'test/' ## I've been having some problems posting to this list, so this is also a kind of test: I just wrote a global lstring def

Re: [Tutor] info, help, guidence,...

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Wisti
Hi Jeff, On Dec 5, 2007 7:30 AM, jeff witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, i have some questions about programming in general and python,.. Welcome! You have a lot of great questions. Tell your brother to relax. First off, Python is a great first language because it was written with an eye

Re: [Tutor] info, help, guidence,...

2007-12-05 Thread taserian
Sorry if this isn't the right place for it, but today's xkcd comic strip is very apropos for the newly illuminated in all things Python. http://www.xkcd.com/ Tony R. On Dec 5, 2007 12:00 PM, bhaaluu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, On Dec 5, 2007 10:30 AM, jeff witt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Mahesh N
I dun understand the mistake. My aim is to accept an integer number. The python lookup in IDLE asks for a string object but the interpreter returns with the following error message. Some one pls explain. Thank You PS : I understand that i can do type conversion after getting input thru

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Kent Johnson
Mahesh N wrote: I dun understand the mistake. My aim is to accept an integer number. The python lookup in IDLE asks for a string object but the interpreter returns with the following error message. Some one pls explain. Thank You PS : I understand that i can do type conversion after

Re: [Tutor] lstrip removes '/' unexpectedly

2007-12-05 Thread Tim Johnson
On Friday 30 November 2007, Eric Brunson wrote: Tim Johnson wrote: Hello: I'm seeing some strange behavior with lstrip operating on string representations of *nix-style file paths Example: s = '/home/test/' s1 = s.lstrip('/home') s1 'test/' ## '/test/' was expected! '/' was

Re: [Tutor] lstrip removes '/' unexpectedly

2007-12-05 Thread Tim Johnson
Trying this again. This list has not be receiving all of my emails.. == On Friday 30 November 2007, Eric Brunson wrote: Tim Johnson wrote: Hello: I'm seeing some strange behavior with lstrip operating on string representations of *nix-style file paths

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Eric Brunson
Mahesh N wrote: I dun understand the mistake. My aim is to accept an integer number. The python lookup in IDLE asks for a string object but the interpreter returns with the following error message. Some one pls explain. Thank You PS : I understand that i can do type conversion after

Re: [Tutor] Problems with List Server?

2007-12-05 Thread Tim Johnson
On Monday 03 December 2007, Tim Johnson wrote: I appear to be having a weird problem with the List Server. At first, email sent to this address did not appear at all. After contacting the ML maintainers only one email from me to this address go through. When I replied to the thread which the

Re: [Tutor] info, help, guidence,...

2007-12-05 Thread bhaaluu
Greetings, On Dec 5, 2007 10:30 AM, jeff witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, i have some questions about programming in general and python,.. my brother (who is a programmer) guides me to .net languages, and i am not too sure why, however, he is getting sick of me pestering him with my

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Mahesh N
On Dec 6, 2007 2:31 AM, Mahesh N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dun understand the mistake. My aim is to accept an integer number. The python lookup in IDLE asks for a string object but the interpreter returns with the following error message. Some one pls explain. Thank You PS : I understand

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Mahesh N
On Dec 6, 2007 2:37 AM, Eric Brunson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mahesh N wrote: I dun understand the mistake. My aim is to accept an integer number. The python lookup in IDLE asks for a string object but the interpreter returns with the following error message. Some one pls explain. Thank

Re: [Tutor] Selecting a browser

2007-12-05 Thread Kent Johnson
Ricardo Aráoz wrote: The other way to handle it would be to include in the documentation that windows paths should have '/' or '' instead of '\\'. The choice would depend on whether the authors consider there is a use for the escape character, and what value that escape character might

[Tutor] Best way of learning

2007-12-05 Thread andy
Dear Pythonistas Over a year ago I dabbled in learning Python, working my way through a few tutorials, the Deitel's How to program in Python and Hetland's Practical Python, until I came across the OOP sections. My mind just froze up, and I found myself wondering if I had really understood

Re: [Tutor] Random Number Generator

2007-12-05 Thread bhaaluu
$ python help() help 'topics' [snip] CODEOBJECTS FRAMES POWER TUPLES [snip] help 'POWER' 5.4 The power operator The power operator binds more tightly than unary operators on its left;

[Tutor] xkcd on Python

2007-12-05 Thread Kent Johnson
http://xkcd.com/353/ :-) Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] lstrip removes '/' unexpectedly

2007-12-05 Thread Tim Johnson
Gentlemen: There appears to still be a problem. The email below was also sent, but I do not see that it has been received. Send time was about 2 hours previous to this. (09:27:42 Alaska Standard Time) tim

[Tutor] info, help, guidence,...

2007-12-05 Thread jeff witt
Hello, i have some questions about programming in general and python,.. my brother (who is a programmer) guides me to .net languages, and i am not too sure why, however, he is getting sick of me pestering him with my questions,.. i like the little i know about python, it seems to be user

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Jerry Hill
On Dec 5, 2007 4:01 PM, Mahesh N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dun understand the mistake. My aim is to accept an integer number. The python lookup in IDLE asks for a string object but the interpreter returns with the following error message. Some one pls explain. Thank You PS : I understand

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Kent Johnson
Bryan Fodness wrote: speed = int(raw_input(prompt)) Is this how ALL known integers should be input? Yes, with probably a try/except block and a while loop around it to handle invalid input. There are two good reasons for doing this instead of using input: - it guarantees that the

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Jerry Hill
On Dec 5, 2007 4:46 PM, Bryan Fodness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 5, 2007 4:16 PM, Jerry Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speed = int(raw_input(prompt)) Is this how ALL known integers should be input? I don't think I understand the question. If you are prompting your user to enter an

Re: [Tutor] info, help, guidence,...

2007-12-05 Thread Alan Gauld
jeff witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote my brother (who is a programmer) guides me to .net languages, OK, Python is a .NET language too. and i am not too sure why, .NET is the new Microsoft standard and their counter attack on Java. It offers a language neutral runtime environment that allows you

Re: [Tutor] Random Number Generator

2007-12-05 Thread Dick Moores
At 04:35 AM 12/5/2007, bhaaluu wrote: It seems to be case-sensitive Mr. Moores! When I entered 'power' (like you did), I also got: help 'power' no Python documentation found for 'power' Try entering: 'POWER' (all caps, just like in the output). Thanks! I should have tried that. Dick Moores

Re: [Tutor] Time module

2007-12-05 Thread Tim Golden
Kent Johnson wrote: Norman Khine wrote: Hello, I am having difficulties in converting the following to display the difference that has passed in hours and seconds in a nice way. from datetime import datetime now = datetime.now() posted = date difference = now - posted namespace['date']

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Alan Gauld
Mahesh N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote PS : I understand that i can do type conversion after getting input thru raw_input(). But how does input() function work? prompt=temme a number\n speed =input(prompt) Traceback (most recent call last): File pyshell#56, line 1, in module speed

Re: [Tutor] Best way of learning

2007-12-05 Thread bhaaluu
On Dec 5, 2007 5:43 PM, andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Pythonistas [snip] So, after this long-winded introduction, I was hoping to pick the wisdom of this list to get some pointers of what to do/not to do to make the most effective use of the few hours I have to learn how to program

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Alan Gauld
Mahesh N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote More over i find python to be a little sluggish after having worked with C and Java. If you translate C or Java code into python you will usually get a less than optimal implementation. Python should be barely slower than Java and often faster. Compared to C

Re: [Tutor] how to accept an integer?

2007-12-05 Thread Bryan Fodness
On Dec 5, 2007 4:16 PM, Jerry Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 5, 2007 4:01 PM, Mahesh N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dun understand the mistake. My aim is to accept an integer number. The python lookup in IDLE asks for a string object but the interpreter returns with the following

[Tutor] Mail? What's that?

2007-12-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
So I eventually got to sending mail with python. Some articles, trying and google led me to this script: import smtplib import time date = time.ctime(time.time( )) From = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' To = ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'] Subj = 'Hi' text = ('From: %s\nTo: %s\nDate: %s\nSubject:

Re: [Tutor] Button 1 Motion Event

2007-12-05 Thread Luke Paireepinart
Johnston Jiaa wrote: Just don't distinguish between quick and slow drags. Just keep a temporary variable that has the previous mouse position, and draw ovals from there to the current mouse position every time your function is called. I now have the variable with the previous mouse

[Tutor] While Loops and Modules

2007-12-05 Thread earlylight publishing
Hello again to all the wonderfully helpful folks on this list. Today I did my Google homework and I found this neat bit of code for a countdown timer. import time import threading class Timer(threading.Thread): def __init__(self, seconds): self.runTime = seconds

Re: [Tutor] Mail? What's that?

2007-12-05 Thread Luke Paireepinart
Ricardo Aráoz wrote: So I eventually got to sending mail with python. Some articles, trying and google led me to this script: import smtplib import time date = time.ctime(time.time( )) From = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' To = ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'] Subj = 'Hi' text = ('From: