[Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Richard D. Moores
See http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/stdtypes.html#boolean-operations-and-or-not. I am quite familiar with the meaning of x and y in Python, and how it is evaluated -- first x, and only if x is False, then evaluate y. But I just can't read if x is false, then x, else y that way. In fact, I

Re: [Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Steve Willoughby
On 05-Jul-10 00:27, Richard D. Moores wrote: Seehttp://docs.python.org/py3k/library/stdtypes.html#boolean-operations-and-or-not. I am quite familiar with the meaning of x and y in Python, and how it is evaluated -- first x, and only if x is False, then evaluate y. But I just can't read if x is

Re: [Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Richard D. Moores
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 00:55, Steve Willoughby st...@alchemy.com wrote: On 05-Jul-10 00:27, Richard D. Moores wrote: Seehttp://docs.python.org/py3k/library/stdtypes.html#boolean-operations-and-or-not. I am quite familiar with the meaning of x and y in Python, and how it is evaluated -- first

Re: [Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Stefan Behnel
Richard D. Moores, 05.07.2010 11:37: I keep getting hung up over the meaning of the return value of an expression. I am of course familiar with values returned by a function, but don't quite grasp what the return value of, say, the y of x and y might mean. Think of a different expression, like

Re: [Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Richard D. Moores
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 04:09, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: Richard D. Moores, 05.07.2010 11:37: I keep getting hung up over the meaning of the return value of an expression. I am of course familiar with values returned by a function, but don't quite grasp what the return value of,

Re: [Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Walter Prins
On 5 July 2010 08:27, Richard D. Moores rdmoo...@gmail.com wrote: See http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/stdtypes.html#boolean-operations-and-or-not . I am quite familiar with the meaning of x and y in Python, and how it is evaluated -- first x, and only if x is False, then evaluate y.

Re: [Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Richard D. Moores
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 04:54, Walter Prins wpr...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 July 2010 08:27, Richard D. Moores rdmoo...@gmail.com wrote: See http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/stdtypes.html#boolean-operations-and-or-not. I am quite familiar with the meaning of x and y in Python, and how it is

Re: [Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Adam Bark
On 5 July 2010 12:53, Richard D. Moores rdmoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 04:09, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: Richard D. Moores, 05.07.2010 11:37: I keep getting hung up over the meaning of the return value of an expression. I am of course familiar with values

Re: [Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Adam Bark
On 5 July 2010 13:21, Adam Bark adam.jt...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 July 2010 12:53, Richard D. Moores rdmoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 04:09, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: Richard D. Moores, 05.07.2010 11:37: I keep getting hung up over the meaning of the return

Re: [Tutor] x and y means if x is false, then x, else y??

2010-07-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 07:37:12 pm Richard D. Moores wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 00:55, Steve Willoughby st...@alchemy.com wrote: [...] Steve, Your answer seems very well-formulated. However, I've read it over and over, but I keep getting hung up over the meaning of the return value of an

[Tutor] raw_input

2010-07-05 Thread Dipo Elegbede
Hello, I seem to be having problems with raw_input. i wrote something like: raw_input('Press Enter') it comes back to tell me raw_input is not defined, a NameError! Is it that something about it has changed in python 3.1 or I have been writing the wrong thing. Please enlighten me. regards.

[Tutor] endless loop

2010-07-05 Thread prasad rao
hi I am trying problem 6 in projecteuler.org. What is the smallest positive number that is evenly divisible by all of the numbers from 1 to 20? def rr(z,m=1): q=lambda n:m%n==0 s=lambda False : 0 a=filter(s,map(q,range(1,z))) if not a: m+=1

Re: [Tutor] raw_input

2010-07-05 Thread Shashwat Anand
use input() instead of raw_input() in Python3.x On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Dipo Elegbede delegb...@dudupay.com wrote: Hello, I seem to be having problems with raw_input. i wrote something like: raw_input('Press Enter') it comes back to tell me raw_input is not defined, a NameError!

Re: [Tutor] raw_input

2010-07-05 Thread Dipo Elegbede
Tried it out and it worked. Thanks. Regards, On 7/5/10, Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.com wrote: use input() instead of raw_input() in Python3.x On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Dipo Elegbede delegb...@dudupay.com wrote: Hello, I seem to be having problems with raw_input. i wrote

Re: [Tutor] endless loop

2010-07-05 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 7/5/2010 8:31 AM prasad rao said... hi I am trying problem 6 in projecteuler.org. What is the smallest positive number that is evenly divisible by all of the numbers from 1 to 20? def rr(z,m=1): q=lambda n:m%n==0 s=lambda False : 0

Re: [Tutor] raw_input

2010-07-05 Thread Sander Sweers
On 5 July 2010 17:40, Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.com wrote: use input() instead of raw_input() in Python3.x To add to this, in Python 2 we had input() [1] (unsafe for most uses) and raw_input() [2] (safe). Python 3 removed the old input() and renamed raw_input() to input() [3,4].

Re: [Tutor] Running a python script as root.

2010-07-05 Thread Eike Welk
Hello Srihari! On Sunday July 4 2010 20:17:12 Srihari k wrote: I did #chmod +s settime.py so that SUID bit be set and all users can execute the script and set the system time. now the permissions of file are: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 165 2010-07-04 23:16 settime.py The script still works

Re: [Tutor] endless loop

2010-07-05 Thread Alan Gauld
prasad rao prasadarao...@gmail.com wrote def rr(z,m=1): q=lambda n:m%n==0 s=lambda False : 0 This is always false??? a=filter(s,map(q,range(1,z))) So this is always empty? if not a: So this is always true m+=1 rr(z,m)

[Tutor] Help return a pattern from list

2010-07-05 Thread Vineeth Rakesh
Hello all, Can some one help me to return a special pattern from a list. say list = [something1.mp3,something2.mp3,something4.pdf,something5.odt] now say I just need to return the files with .mp3 extension. How to go about doing this? Thanks Vin ___

Re: [Tutor] Help return a pattern from list

2010-07-05 Thread Sander Sweers
On 5 July 2010 19:54, Vineeth Rakesh vineethrak...@gmail.com wrote: Can some one help me to return a special pattern from a list. say list = [something1.mp3,something2.mp3,something4.pdf,something5.odt] now say I just need to return the files with .mp3 extension. How to go about doing this?

Re: [Tutor] Help return a pattern from list

2010-07-05 Thread Shashwat Anand
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Vineeth Rakesh vineethrak...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, Can some one help me to return a special pattern from a list. say list = [something1.mp3,something2.mp3,something4.pdf,something5.odt] One suggestion. Don't name a list as list. Use l or List or any

Re: [Tutor] Help return a pattern from list

2010-07-05 Thread Shashwat Anand
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Vineeth Rakesh vineethrak...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, Can some one help me to return a special pattern from a list. say list =

[Tutor] the ball needs a kick...

2010-07-05 Thread Schoap D
Hi, I'm doing the exercises here: chapter 8 http://www.openbookproject.net/thinkCSpy/ch08.html Now I have added another paddle to the pong game. So far so good, but the ball isn't moving anymore and I am not able to fix it... Any comments, tips, feedback? Thanks in advance,

Re: [Tutor] Help return a pattern from list

2010-07-05 Thread Alan Gauld
Shashwat Anand anand.shash...@gmail.com wrote list = [something1.mp3,something2.mp3,something4.pdf,something5.odt] [i for i in list if i[-4:] == '.mp3'] ['something1.mp3', 'something2.mp3'] Or even easier: [s for s in list if s.endswith('.mp3')] But for the specific case of file

Re: [Tutor] Help return a pattern from list

2010-07-05 Thread Thomas C. Hicks
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:29:02 +0200 tutor-requ...@python.org wrote: Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 13:54:55 -0400 From: Vineeth Rakesh vineethrak...@gmail.com To: tutor@python.org Subject: [Tutor] Help return a pattern from list Message-ID:

Re: [Tutor] Help return a pattern from list

2010-07-05 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 7/5/2010 4:19 PM Alan Gauld said... But for the specific case of file extensions the os.path.splitext() is a better solution. If, as the names suggest, the source is the file system, then I'd reach for glob. Emile ___ Tutor maillist -